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Trump repeats delusion that MILLIONS illegally voted

OldFatGuy said:
It sure is. It doesn't take much to give fascism a leg up. McCarthy was enough for this country.

Boots on the ground are the last to know what is going on.
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so you consider the DMV's fascist also? They give driver's licenses and ID cards...

or college campuses?

i dont the issue with having one federal ID to use for just about everything....it could also serve as the SS card, medicard card, etc

Every gun store in the country could use it as verification for ID...liquor stores...etc

I dont see how that is going fascist...or back to the Senator McCarthy days....

We have issues today that we never dreamed we would have 50 or 100 years ago....and we have technology to help with those issues

It can prevent fraud in so many areas....i cant see a downside, i really cant....
 
I have a problem with asking an 80 year old to go get another id, so they can vote.
I see a problem with it in states that don't already make you submit your entire life to get a state issued if.
I don't see a problem with it if a going forward law was enacted. You know every child that's issued a social security card also gets a voter id as of this date.
 
haymarket said:
Why do you object to each vote counting equally?
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Who said I object. I raise the specter of accounting. The reality is we do live in a representative republic, and as such individual voting is irrelevant.
 
gdgyva said:
so you consider the DMV's fascist also? They give driver's licenses and ID cards...

or college campuses?

i dont the issue with having one federal ID to use for just about everything....it could also serve as the SS card, medicard card, etc

Every gun store in the country could use it as verification for ID...liquor stores...etc

I dont see how that is going fascist...or back to the Senator McCarthy days....

We have issues today that we never dreamed we would have 50 or 100 years ago....and we have technology to help with those issues

It can prevent fraud in so many areas....i cant see a downside, i really cant....
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A driver's license is a voluntary decision result. No one is required to drive.

I've never been required to prove my age in a liquor store, or when buying beer, or when in bar, tavern, saloon, pub or anywhere else. Not even when I was young.

"Vass your peppers?"
 
haymarket said:
We have a delusional madman who invents major criminal activity out of whole cloth with no evidence to support it sitting in the Oval Office and it seems nobody seems to care.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-today-april-5-18/h_87404d52bccb57988e10149cbd55ac90


Either this man is clearly mentally ill as many eminent mental health professionals have observed or his grossly irresponsible extremist rantings and outright lies are supported by his party and millions of his supporters.

Which one is it?
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or perhaps both. Can there be any doubt that his grossly irresponsible extremist rantings and outright lies are supported by his party and millions of his supporters?
 
OldFatGuy said:
Who said I object. I raise the specter of accounting. The reality is we do live in a representative republic, and as such individual voting is irrelevant.
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And if each individual vote is not counted equally with every other individual vote, is that not a violation of the sacred pro cripple of one person/one vote?
 
Dittohead not! said:
or perhaps both. Can there be any doubt that his grossly irresponsible extremist rantings and outright lies are supported by his party and millions of his supporters?
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Yes - you are right. This is clearly a case of the inmates in the asylum screaming when the other inmates scream. After a while its difficult to determine who started it and who are merely the followers.
 
haymarket said:
Yes - you are right. This is clearly a case of the inmates in the asylum screaming when the other inmates scream. After a while its difficult to determine who started it and who are merely the followers.
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Trump's chumps are clearly the followers, unless, that is, the conman in chief actually believes his nonsense.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Trump's chumps are clearly the followers, unless, that is, the conman in chief actually believes his nonsense.
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Probably at one time, Trump was in on his own joke. Now, his mental illness has deprived him of being able to make that judgment and he has become the joke and believes it is real.
 
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