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Its seems Democrats find mass shootings politically advantageous...

zimmer said:
It’s been more than 20-years since Columbine. Why haven’t Democrats offered a serious solution to the problem? Why do they decry the simple solutions that work? Is it because they see such mass murders as politically advantageous?

These shootings are now part of our society. It is what we have evolved to unfortunately. As Democrats like to say, you can’t go back to 1950.

So... why are Democrats not aggressively supporting the simple measures that will help protect the children?

Only having qualified armed individuals at schools will help deter at best, or limit the amount of carnage and suffering?

Once again, it has been 20-years since Columbine.

For those who say guns are not the answer... you’re living in some fantasy world. 1950 perhaps.

For those who claim repealing the 2nd amendment is the answer:
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You're referring to the essay by Justice John Paul Stevens. You are implying repealing 2a equals banning all guns. That is false. It would not ban guns, you would need a 28th amendment to actually ban all guns, and JPS did not say that. The point of repealing 2a would be for the purpose of taking the wind out of the sails of the gun control blocking NRA via the Scalia ruling, so that states could regulate guns without interference from the NRA and from the "all guns are good" crowd. Note that many things are not granted as rights in the bill of rights, but they are still made and sold.

1. You want carnage, violence, rape to occur at a massive level... take guns from law abiding citizens, and leave them in the hands of criminals.
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gun control does not equal banning all guns, so your point is moot.


2. 100,000,000 people died in the last century in societies that took guns from their citizens. You cannot predict what will happen in America in 50, 100 or 300-years... when the society is disarmed.
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I'll grant you repubs for one thing: you've got scare mongering down to a fine art.

once again, gun control does not equal banning all guns, and no one on the left is advocating that.
It's time for republicans to wake up and knock it off with the strawman argument they continually make.


It is long past due that Democrats wake up. These shootings in gun-free zones are the reality of our society. The only way to stop the worst offenders is to have qualified individuals armed and ready... to protect the children. Otherwise, one must really wonder why no action has been taken in the decades since Columbine.
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once again, gun control does not equal banning all guns, and no one on the left is advocating that.

It's time for republicans to wake up and knock it off with the strawman argument they continually make.
 
zimmer said:
It’s been more than 20-years since Columbine. Why haven’t Democrats offered a serious solution to the problem? Why do they decry the simple solutions that work? Is it because they see such mass murders as politically advantageous?

These shootings are now part of our society. It is what we have evolved to unfortunately. As Democrats like to say, you can’t go back to 1950.

So... why are Democrats not aggressively supporting the simple measures that will help protect the children?

Only having qualified armed individuals at schools will help deter at best, or limit the amount of carnage and suffering?

Once again, it has been 20-years since Columbine.

For those who say guns are not the answer... you’re living in some fantasy world. 1950 perhaps.

For those who claim repealing the 2nd amendment is the answer:

1. You want carnage, violence, rape to occur at a massive level... take guns from law abiding citizens, and leave them in the hands of criminals.

2. 100,000,000 people died in the last century in societies that took guns from their citizens. You cannot predict what will happen in America in 50, 100 or 300-years... when the society is disarmed.

It is long past due that Democrats wake up. These shootings in gun-free zones are the reality of our society. The only way to stop the worst offenders is to have qualified individuals armed and ready... to protect the children. Otherwise, one must really wonder why no action has been taken in the decades since Columbine.
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For your visceral claims, you give no germane evidence. Just emotionally based blood vessel popping verbiage.
 
Lessee, 1- crazy people exist in roughly the same numbers in other societies like the US; 2- guns exist in greater numbers in the US than in other societies like the US; 3- obviously the problem can’t be guns; 4- the solution is simple: more people need to be armed. Who can argue with that?
 
Cardinal said:
Another gun rights activist on this forum was just bragging that NRA donations tripled after the Parkland shooting. If anyone has profited from the shootings it's the NRA.
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It would not surprise me if Wayne LaPierre cheers in secret whenever news breaks of a mass shooting.

Or, for that matter, secretly votes Democratic. Because both things incite more gun sales.
 
OlNate said:
Heya, Zimmer.. Out of curiosity, though....what is bad about background checks? No, it's not a complete solution, neither is brushing your teeth, you gotta go to the dentist too, but that doesn't mean you don't brush your teeth... What's the argument against universal background checks (not a rhetorical, sarcastic, or "gotcha" question, looking to understand)?
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What's wrong with it is how they want to implement it. If you need go get one each time a transaction is being made your are creating a registry of guns and gun owners that tells the gov exactly who has guns, how many they have, what kind they are, where they are (generally). That's the issue.

I think if instead they said look if your considering owning a gun apply for a license. If your application passes we issue you an ID card much like a driver's license, or it include it on your driver's license as a designation that says your allowed to own a gun. If you so desire to purchase a weapon you need only show that card at the dealership much like you would when you purchase alcohol. If you get into some kind of trouble the courts can revoke your license to prevent you from being able to purchase a gun.

That close the gun show loophole that has everybody so upset and it protects people from being on a registry. It's not a perfect answer and some from both sides will find things about that approach to object to, but imo it is a fair compromise between both sides.

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zimmer said:
It’s been more than 20-years since Columbine. Why haven’t Democrats offered a serious solution to the problem? Why do they decry the simple solutions that work? Is it because they see such mass murders as politically advantageous?

These shootings are now part of our society. It is what we have evolved to unfortunately. As Democrats like to say, you can’t go back to 1950.

So... why are Democrats not aggressively supporting the simple measures that will help protect the children?

Only having qualified armed individuals at schools will help deter at best, or limit the amount of carnage and suffering?

Once again, it has been 20-years since Columbine.

For those who say guns are not the answer... you’re living in some fantasy world. 1950 perhaps.

For those who claim repealing the 2nd amendment is the answer:

1. You want carnage, violence, rape to occur at a massive level... take guns from law abiding citizens, and leave them in the hands of criminals.

2. 100,000,000 people died in the last century in societies that took guns from their citizens. You cannot predict what will happen in America in 50, 100 or 300-years... when the society is disarmed.

It is long past due that Democrats wake up. These shootings in gun-free zones are the reality of our society. The only way to stop the worst offenders is to have qualified individuals armed and ready... to protect the children. Otherwise, one must really wonder why no action has been taken in the decades since Columbine.
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The first part of this video is quite short, 27 seconds, and most pertinent to your post 😊 :

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