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First young generation in over 50 years to become political and demonstrate in mass!

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I went to college in the late 60"s. I was part of the generation that demonstrated against the Vietnam War and for black rights on campus. It was an exciting time with the fact that you could be drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed as many of our friends were for no good reason. Since then most campuses have been very quiet and most student were either studding for future jobs or partying. So for several generations of student at all levels were more interested in just being students and had no real worries about death coming their way unless they enlisted. Now though these same student are once again faced with death and injury coming their way, not outside of the country, but in their own schools. So once again we have students demonstrating. And once again we have many people in the country railing against those demonstrations. TO me it seems like the good old days. And it is good to once again see students interested in politics.
 
independentusa said:
I went to college in the late 60"s. I was part of the generation that demonstrated against the Vietnam War and for black rights on campus. It was an exciting time with the fact that you could be drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed as many of our friends were for no good reason. Since then most campuses have been very quiet and most student were either studding for future jobs or partying. So for several generations of student at all levels were more interested in just being students and had no real worries about death coming their way unless they enlisted. Now though these same student are once again faced with death and injury coming their way, not outside of the country, but in their own schools. So once again we have students demonstrating. And once again we have many people in the country railing against those demonstrations. TO me it seems like the good old days. And it is good to once again see students interested in politics.
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What's sad is that they've gone from from fighting to defend people's rights 40-50 years ago to trying to take them away...
 
independentusa said:
I went to college in the late 60"s. I was part of the generation that demonstrated against the Vietnam War and for black rights on campus. It was an exciting time with the fact that you could be drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed as many of our friends were for no good reason. Since then most campuses have been very quiet and most student were either studding for future jobs or partying. So for several generations of student at all levels were more interested in just being students and had no real worries about death coming their way unless they enlisted. Now though these same student are once again faced with death and injury coming their way, not outside of the country, but in their own schools. So once again we have students demonstrating. And once again we have many people in the country railing against those demonstrations. TO me it seems like the good old days. And it is good to once again see students interested in politics.
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It would be nice if they were demonstrating for something that made a difference in what they were trying to accomplish.
 
independentusa said:
I went to college in the late 60"s. I was part of the generation that demonstrated against the Vietnam War and for black rights on campus. It was an exciting time with the fact that you could be drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed as many of our friends were for no good reason. Since then most campuses have been very quiet and most student were either studding for future jobs or partying. So for several generations of student at all levels were more interested in just being students and had no real worries about death coming their way unless they enlisted. Now though these same student are once again faced with death and injury coming their way, not outside of the country, but in their own schools. So once again we have students demonstrating. And once again we have many people in the country railing against those demonstrations. TO me it seems like the good old days. And it is good to once again see students interested in politics.
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Too bad they picked a bull**** stance to take.
 
faithful_servant said:
What's sad is that they've gone from from fighting to defend people's rights 40-50 years ago to trying to take them away...
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Yeah, shame on those kids for caring more about them and their classmates not getting shot at school and less about your "right" to purchase adult toys that would enable you to personally outgun an entire battalion of troops in the days of those who wrote the 2A!
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yeah, shame on those kids for caring more about them and their classmates not getting shot at school and less about your "right" to purchase adult toys that would enable you to personally outgun an entire battalion of troops in the days of those who wrote the 2A!
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They don't give a rat's ass about preventing gun violence. If they did, they would be demanding solutions that actually work.

This is a communist uprising. Hell, if it wasn't for those dead kids, no one would even know who these kids are. This is their big break to launch their activist careers.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yeah, shame on those kids for caring more about them and their classmates not getting shot at school and less about your "right" to purchase adult toys that would enable you to personally outgun an entire battalion of troops in the days of those who wrote the 2A!
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The 2A is not a right to commit a gun crime any more than a license to drive is the privilege to ignore traffic laws.

The common sense gun control idea was to place dangerous folks on "no gun" lists but that required *gasp* state/local government action to actually do so. Since that failed to happen in the Parkland, Floriduh mass shooting case totally due to local LEO and school "official" inaction it suddenly was said to be the fault of the NRA, republicants and lawful gun owners.

Any that dare to disagree with accepting ever more 2A restrictions are said to be for getting children shot or some other moronic claim of being especially evil people. Emotion does not invalidate logic.
 
MrMike said:
Bingo! you nailed it...
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All I saw was kids trying to defend their right to not get shot at school. I think that they feel like the adults don't care, so they have to fend for themselves.
 
apdst said:
They don't give a rat's ass about preventing gun violence. If they did, they would be demanding solutions that actually work.

This is a communist uprising. Hell, if it wasn't for those dead kids, no one would even know who these kids are. This is their big break to launch their activist careers.
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Yeah, kids who personally watched their friends and classmates being shot and murdered, who saw the blood on the floor, who went to their friends' burials, wouldn't "give a rat's ass about preventing gun violence".

In other words, your reply says a lot more about you than you realize.
 
independentusa said:
I went to college in the late 60"s. I was part of the generation that demonstrated against the Vietnam War and for black rights on campus. It was an exciting time with the fact that you could be drafted, sent to Vietnam and killed as many of our friends were for no good reason. Since then most campuses have been very quiet and most student were either studding for future jobs or partying. So for several generations of student at all levels were more interested in just being students and had no real worries about death coming their way unless they enlisted. Now though these same student are once again faced with death and injury coming their way, not outside of the country, but in their own schools. So once again we have students demonstrating. And once again we have many people in the country railing against those demonstrations. TO me it seems like the good old days. And it is good to once again see students interested in politics.
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I was nine years old at the time & there were some folks protesting on May 4, 1970. The (supposed) 'good guys' shot the place up, killed a few folks, and no one was ever held to account. People wonder why folks don't trust their own government & wanna 'stick it to the man.'
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Yeah, kids who personally watched their friends and classmates being shot and murdered, who saw the blood on the floor, who went to their friends' burials, wouldn't "give a rat's ass about preventing gun violence".

In other words, your reply says a lot more about you than you realize.
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David Hogg didn't watch anyone die. He wasn't even in building 12 when the shooting was going on. It's dishonest to say he's a "survivor" because his life was never in danger.
 
Mason66 said:
It would be nice if they were demonstrating for something that made a difference in what they were trying to accomplish.
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It would be nice if something that would make a difference would be done by adults, someone in authority, instead of denigrating the misplaced but sincere efforts of teenagers. Would have been nice, too, if umpteen school shootings hadn't been ignored because that's how freedom works, leading to a kind of desperate attempt to keep it in the news so SOME EFFORT IS MADE instead of just waiting out the few days until it blows over.
 
apdst said:
They don't give a rat's ass about preventing gun violence. If they did, they would be demanding solutions that actually work.

This is a communist uprising. Hell, if it wasn't for those dead kids, no one would even know who these kids are. This is their big break to launch their activist careers.
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Why the hell aren't YOU demanding solutions that actually work?
 
Grand Mal said:
Why the hell aren't YOU demanding solutions that actually work?
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I am, but they don't include gun control, so no one on the Left wants anything to do with it.

Myself and four other fathers met with the principle of my kids's school. He thinks it can't happen at his school and their security is just fine, as is. Pretty much the same story at my step-kids's school. It went something like this: "We're on top of it. There's nothing to worry about". I politely called bull**** to my step-kids's principle and he doesn't like me, now.
 
Grand Mal said:
Why the hell aren't YOU demanding solutions that actually work?
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Conservatives aren't good at political activism in general..... it's against their nature. Liberals are the ones that always want to change things.

They may have good ideas, but aren't able to get support like a group of liberal people do. They are more practical and care about their individual sphere first.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The 2A is not a right to commit a gun crime any more than a license to drive is the privilege to ignore traffic laws.

The common sense gun control idea was to place dangerous folks on "no gun" lists but that required *gasp* state/local government action to actually do so. Since that failed to happen in the Parkland, Floriduh mass shooting case totally due to local LEO and school "official" inaction it suddenly was said to be the fault of the NRA, republicants and lawful gun owners.

Any that dare to disagree with accepting ever more 2A restrictions are said to be for getting children shot or some other moronic claim of being especially evil people. Emotion does not invalidate logic.
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When the NRA gets behind closing the gun show loophole and truly universal background checks, I'll stop considering them culpable in the spread of gun violence.
 
Grand Mal said:
It would be nice if something that would make a difference would be done by adults, someone in authority, instead of denigrating the misplaced but sincere efforts of teenagers. Would have been nice, too, if umpteen school shootings hadn't been ignored because that's how freedom works, leading to a kind of desperate attempt to keep it in the news so SOME EFFORT IS MADE instead of just waiting out the few days until it blows over.
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What has been ignored? There was heavy coverage about each and every one of them.

The focus was always on the gun and not the mental health of the shooter.
 
bearpoker said:
When the NRA gets behind closing the gun show loophole and truly universal background checks, I'll stop considering them culpable in the spread of gun violence.
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There's no such thing as a "gun show loophole".
 
independentusa said:
TO me it seems like the good old days. And it is good to once again see students interested in politics.
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I really think that the baby boomer generation will go down as the worst, and most entitled generation in history. They really had no true struggle. They had by far the cushiest lives overall of any generation off all time, and most of it was paid for on a credit card that their children will have to pay off. They raped the planet with reckless abandon and now that they're all retiring they want to attack their own children for the problems that they themselves created.

There comes a point in every person's life where it's time to realize that your children are smarter than you and that you need their help more than they need yours. It's time for the Baby Boomer generation to sit down, shut up, and let their children take over. It is Millenials who are going to be stuck fixing this mess for the next 40 years, and while they may make their own mistakes at least if they **** up they'll be the ones that suffer for it, and they'll have nobody to blame but themselves.
 
celticwar17 said:
Conservatives aren't good at political activism in general..... it's against their nature. Liberals are the ones that always want to change things.

They may have good ideas, but aren't able to get support like a group of liberal people do. They are more practical and care about their individual sphere first.
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Excuses, excuses.
 
Grand Mal said:
It would be nice if something that would make a difference would be done by adults, someone in authority, instead of denigrating the misplaced but sincere efforts of teenagers. Would have been nice, too, if umpteen school shootings hadn't been ignored because that's how freedom works, leading to a kind of desperate attempt to keep it in the news so SOME EFFORT IS MADE instead of just waiting out the few days until it blows over.
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What things are you referring to? I'm going to go out on a limb and predict some kind of gun control. Yes?
 
bearpoker said:
When the NRA gets behind closing the gun show loophole and truly universal background checks, I'll stop considering them culpable in the spread of gun violence.
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There is no gun show loophole. Federal law applies no matter where the gun is purchased. We already have universal background checks in every state.
 
bearpoker said:
Excuses, excuses.
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Gonzalez and Hogg don't have bills to pay, kids to raise. We aren't getting subsidized to the tune of $millions to be fulltime activists.
 
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