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March For Our LIves

Don't forget to wear your ***** hat.



RedFishBlueFish said:
March For Our Lives

Saturday, March 24, marches will be held all across the country. The marches are a result of the recent shooting at Parkland school in Florida. There are numerous marches scheduled all across the US, even in states like Alabama (where I live, so I can say this without being too discriminatory) so you should be able to find one convenient to you. You can go here - https://marchforourlives.com/ to find a march near you.

For the folks on here that support stricter gun laws and that want to support the students, I encourage you to attend.

For the group of people on here that want assault weapons to be sold in local seven-elevens to 12-year-olds, you might want to go too. If you do, please wear your “Make America Great Again” hats and carry your AR-15 or AK-47 or weapon-of-war of choice. I suggest that you make signs expressing your opinion. Like – “We Love Assault Weapons and Are Voting Republicans”. Or “Support Bump Stocks, Not Students”. You can park your pick-up truck along the march routes, display your weapons in the truck bed, and use big signs saying you need these guns to hunt squirrels. Please make sure your Trump bumper stickers are clearly visible. Assault-weapon advocates, please leave your ammunition at home. Again – don’t forget your MAGA hats. You need to make sure these students know what side you are on.
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Lovebug said:
Do you have a drinking and driving statistic? Might be even more deaths, but hey, teens don't rally against booze or cars, do they? No, they knowingly put themselves into such situations.
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They would have no need to rally "against" booze or cars for many reasons.

There is a risk to drinking and driving, whether you're 17 or 57. There shouldn't be a risk while walking from French class to Home Economics, or while building gingerbread houses in your 1st grade classroom.

Cars were developed as a mode of transportation. I believe ARs were invented to kill and/or harm.

Booze does kill people, whether in cars or over time. That's a risk the person accepts, like with cigarettes. No kid accepts the risk of being shot in his 1st grade classroom, nor should there be a risk.

MADD organizes against teenage drinking and driving, and I know my kids have attended events that encourage kids not to drink and drive. That's an action the teen himself can control. What the walkouts are for is kids who get shot and killed while doing something that isn't risky behavior, and being shot at the hands of someone else.
 
tres borrachos said:
They would have no need to rally "against" booze or cars for many reasons.

There is a risk to drinking and driving, whether you're 17 or 57. There shouldn't be a risk while walking from French class to Home Economics, or while building gingerbread houses in your 1st grade classroom.

Cars were developed as a mode of transportation. I believe ARs were invented to kill and/or harm.

Booze does kill people, whether in cars or over time. That's a risk the person accepts, like with cigarettes. No kid accepts the risk of being shot in his 1st grade classroom, nor should there be a risk.

MADD organizes against teenage drinking and driving, and I know my kids have attended events that encourage kids not to drink and drive. That's an action the teen himself can control. What the walkouts are for is kids who get shot and killed while doing something that isn't risky behavior, and being shot at the hands of someone else.
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Booze doesn't kill people, but irresponsible drinking and driving just might. Guns don't kill people, but guns in the wrong hands might.
 
Lovebug said:
Booze doesn't kill people, but irresponsible drinking and driving just might. Guns don't kill people, but guns in the wrong hands might.
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Booze absolutely can kill people. Have you not heard about any recent fraternity having deaths from alcohol?

Saying guns don't kill people would be the same thing as saying drinking and driving doesn't kill people, because it's the person behind the wheel, not the car and not the alcohol.
 
tres borrachos said:
Booze absolutely can kill people. Have you not heard about any recent fraternity having deaths from alcohol?

Saying guns don't kill people would be the same thing as saying drinking and driving doesn't kill people, because it's the person behind the wheel, not the car and not the alcohol.
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My emphasis is on irresponsible.
 
Lovebug said:
My emphasis is on irresponsible.
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But again, the point is the same.

There is no comparison to teenagers dying because of drunk driving, and teenagers/1st graders getting shot in their classrooms and schools. The first behavior is risky, and the second behavior isn't.
 
Lovebug said:
Do you have a drinking and driving statistic? Might be even more deaths, but hey, teens don't rally against booze or cars, do they? No, they knowingly put themselves into such situations.
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Thats because they dont have a bunch of politicians fanning the flames and telling them all how important they are in that arena.
 
tres borrachos said:
They would have no need to rally "against" booze or cars for many reasons.

There is a risk to drinking and driving, whether you're 17 or 57. There shouldn't be a risk while walking from French class to Home Economics, or while building gingerbread houses in your 1st grade classroom.

Cars were developed as a mode of transportation. I believe ARs were invented to kill and/or harm.

Booze does kill people, whether in cars or over time. That's a risk the person accepts, like with cigarettes. No kid accepts the risk of being shot in his 1st grade classroom, nor should there be a risk.

MADD organizes against teenage drinking and driving, and I know my kids have attended events that encourage kids not to drink and drive. That's an action the teen himself can control. What the walkouts are for is kids who get shot and killed while doing something that isn't risky behavior, and being shot at the hands of someone else.
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There is literally a .0000011% chance that any given school might be involved in a shooting. Your focus on the AR ignores the reality that the AR isnt even the most commonly used weapon in such instances. SO you insist that they have a legit concern (because apparently, .0000011% is a real world risk factor to you) but minimize the far more likely risk to school age teenagers.

Makes (no) sense to me.
 
Mason66 said:
If the protest was to make mental health care accessible to more people, I would be all for it.
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I've seen a number of these kids talking about mental health. This is a concern of theirs and I suspect if you see photos of the marches on Saturday (or better yet, go yourself) you will see signs addressing mental health.

These young people have received a lot of criticism from the right. They are young and to some extent they are naive and, like all of us they make mistakes. But some of these kids are very serious and very smart. I think they deserve our support.
 
Goshin said:
Looked full of bias, assumptions, hate and misinformation to me too.
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Then you, too, do not know the difference between sarcasm and hatred. Yes, one could take what the OP said in the last paragraph as snide insults, but we all know that twelve year-olds can't buy firearms (much less AR-15's)...which means, then, that the writer was being sarcastic. Insultingly sarcastic, sure - for most sarcasm is the use of insults to make a point.

But I find it sad indeed that you equate sarcasm with hatred. Perhaps it's because to me, hatred is a very strong word indeed. I can think of not a single person I hate. If necessary in the line of what I hold to be my duty as a man, a husband, and a dad, I would kill those who must be killed, but I would not do so out of hatred...

...for with real hatred comes malice. I earnestly pray that I will never feel malice towards others, for then hatred would enter my heart. Yeah, I know, that all sounds over-the-top...but it's true.

Sarcasm - even deeply-insulting sarcasm - does not demand malice...but hatred does. There lay the difference. I see no malice in the OP; therefore, I see no hatred therein. Perhaps the writer of the OP does have malicious intent, but such is not evident in his words in the OP, and - having no hatred in my heart - I do my best to avoid (if possible) assuming hatred in the hearts of others.

I could go on, but to do so would belabor the obvious point: you (and faithful_servant) need to consider what hatred truly is.
 
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RedFishBlueFish said:
I've seen a number of these kids talking about mental health. This is a concern of theirs and I suspect if you see photos of the marches on Saturday (or better yet, go yourself) you will see signs addressing mental health.

These young people have received a lot of criticism from the right. They are young and to some extent they are naive and, like all of us they make mistakes. But some of these kids are very serious and very smart. I think they deserve our support.
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I agree completely
 
March for Our Lives organizers estimate 800,000 protesters attended the gun-control demonstration in Washington, D.C. on Saturday.

If they're correct, the event would be the largest single-day protest in the history of the nation's capital. The total is bigger than the inaugural Women's March, which brought 500,000 to D.C., according to the Washington Post.

The number doesn't include large rallies in cities such as Boston, Houston, Minneapolis and Parkland, Fla., the site of the Valentine's Day attack at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School that left 17 people dead.

Other large protests in D.C. history include the 500,000 to 600,000 people who demonstrated against the Vietnam War in D.C. in 1969. The March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom on Aug. 28, 1963, drew about 250,000 people to D.C. where Martin Luther King Jr. delivered his famous "I have a dream" speech. And the Million Man March in 1995 garnered estimates of between 450,000 to 1.1 million people, according to the Encyclopedia Brittanica.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...le-day-protest-d-c-nations-history/455675002/
 
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