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No Collusion, eh?

jnug said:
The second half of Mueller's investigation will be Conspiracy but he is likely to grab up any collusion issues in that investigation.
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His hiring of Andrew Weissman confirms he's not above board.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Talk is cheap. Much harder to beat a sitting president, especially if there is a good economy. Hell, Slenderman even won with all his piss poor years dragging on our economy
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and did you see his poll numbers go up across the board even after the Stormy Daniels interview!! The left must be ****ting bricks. Or they should be if they had an ounce of sense.
 
JoeTrumps said:
and did you see his poll numbers go up across the board even after the Stormy Daniels interview!! The left must be ****ting bricks. Or they should be if they had an ounce of sense.
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Now, question is: are you using this as a verb being done to the bricks...or as an adjective describing the type of brick they must be? :lamo:lamo:lamo

Yeah, like thats ever gonna be the case. I like Coulter's book title, If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans

And I agree, Trump is leading the pack in the polls among politician types now isnt he? I know Congresses' numbers are dismal...but I dont trust polling anyhow.
 
OscarLevant said:
No, Trump won because of a fluke of the electoral college system.
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Ummmmmmmmmm. Trump is president and the left still can't get over it. By the way, what happened to Trump won because of Comey? What happened to Trump won because he colluded with the Russians to influence the election? I swear, even you guys don't believe your own nonsense.
 
rocket88 said:
Trump-Teleprompter.jpg


You were saying?
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Oh please. You know darn well that Trump rarely uses a teleprompter. Just because you can dig up a picture of one time is dishonest.
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh please. You know darn well that Trump rarely uses a teleprompter. Just because you can dig up a picture of one time is dishonest.
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He uses a teleprompter sometimes. I don't have a problem with it myself, you are the one asserting that the American people were sick of politicians who use them.

Despite your overly worshipful B.S., Trump is one of them.
 
Moderate Right said:
Ummmmmmmmmm. Trump is president and the left still can't get over it. By the way, what happened to Trump won because of Comey? What happened to Trump won because he colluded with the Russians to influence the election? I swear, even you guys don't believe your own nonsense.
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Your sidestepping aside,
Did I mention anything but the FACT that trump won ONLY because of a FLUKE in the electoral college?

Nope. Nor did you refute it.

Nor can you. It's the one thing you cannot refute, because it's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Trump won only because of a fluke of the electoral college, and everything you say
is to sidestep that one fact, why?

Because you can't handle the truth.

I'll accept that he won by a fluke of the electoral college, only because it's the one thing that you can't dispute or trivialize.

Also, republicans purged 1.1 million blacks from the voter registration rolls. (Kris Kobach's "Interstate Crosscheck Program" ) The purged numbers vastly exceeded the vote count Trump won by in the swing states. The voters who were purged were given provisional ballots. Part of the Jill Stein lawsuit was to get those provisional ballots counted ( 'cause they don't count them in many red states. I wonder why. ) But, the republicans denied her a recount. I wonder why.

So, there's a whole lotta cheatin' goin' on. Republicans can't win by popular vote, they got to cheat. Yeah, Hillary and DNC didn't play fair during the primary (but the DNC shenanigans don't account for her 3 million vote win, but even if she and bernie tied, she would have won the primary anyway, because of the superdelegates), but she didnt cheat during the general, that is certain. Trump wasn't exactly a choir boy to get the nomination, either.

But, you'll say 'sore loser'.

I could only imagine what republicans would have done if she had won the presidency, and republicans found out her team had purged 1.1 million republicans from the voting registration rolls. Well, not two worry, in the blue states, they count provisional ballots.


But, if they didn't , republicans would have marched on washington witch torches and pitch forks.

I hate to be the one to tell you, but the GOP is the biggest scam operation in the United States.

Well, almost, the Trump presidency is on top of the list, er.... Mueller's list.


He's going down.
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh please. You know darn well that Trump rarely uses a teleprompter. Just because you can dig up a picture of one time is dishonest.
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Any time Trump gives a formal speech, he uses a teleprompter. Presidents, including this one, give formal speeches a lot more than "rarely" and you have the temerity to accuse someone of being dishonest.
 
code1211 said:
It might just be the condition of employment for Trump: Get results or get out.

With Obama, it seems the only bar to clear was loyalty to the Party Line.

With Trump, he's actually trying to resolve issues. It's not difficult to see whether or not a thing is getting resolved.

Take the Dreamers, as an example. There is ONE person in Washington who is trying to get this resolved and his name is Trump.

Everyone else is trying only to maintain the issue as a wedge to get votes.

If the prancing prima donnas in Congress would just decide to relax their grip on the the throats of those they control for a second and help them instead, imagine what could be done to advance our national interests.
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If Trump tries to usurp a liberal cause, like the dreamers, or DACA, I assure you, he's doing it for a political end, an end of which has nothing to do with the helping DACA or dreamers. He could help both, just approve a few bills that were written by dems to help these groups.

If you think he is trying to help these groups, you are not paying attention, or you are deluded by Fox news, or both.

Trump is interested in only one thing, his bank accounts and his business, and making sure his name is in the news, 24/7


That's it.

He undermined DACA so he could use it as a bargaining chip for his wall.

When SCOTUS undermined Trump's repealing Obama's DACA directive, he then tried to blame dems for what he caused, but all it was was whining about not getting his wall. Even his own congress and senate didn't give it to him.

As for "resolving issues", he's focused on the wrong things, and on the right things, he has the wrong solutions.

The wall is a boondoggle and won't do much, given that half of all undocs are visa overstays, a number which will jump if there were a wall.

the wall would cost untold billions and not be effective. So, he gives billions in tax breaks to the super rich, which is not needed because the super rich are doing just fine, and then signs a bloated omnibus bill, and the ensuing deficits, what's he going to do about that? Build a frickin' wall? To pay for the deficits, he and repubs want "entitlement reform". This is what drives the GOP, when they holler "smaller government", that's dog whistle talk for more goodies for rich people, and less goodies for poor people. You say 'tax breaks for middle class? they got a few crumbs, not much, but those gains will soon be eroded given that huge deficits historically lead to high inflation, or ghastly debt, or both. and we got both, plenty of both, already, so he's fanning the fire.

He's also the weakest president in history. Fox goons are leading him around by the nose, he gets his info from them, he hires them, consults with them, echos their BS in tweets just after they BS it on TV, etc., long before he even pays attention to his security staff, his military, or anyone else.


Trump is a wanna be dictator. He's accused the press of being "the enemy of the people". Nixon only said they were the enemy, which is to say, his enemy, he never said they were the enemy of the people, and never on a public forum. No right thinking president would call the press the enemy of the people simple because of teh 1st amendment, we need a vigorous free press. It's accepted that the press doesn't get it right all the time, but in no way are they supposed to be a propaganda tool of the President, and that's what Trump wants. The only press, in his bizarre world view, that are not "the enemy of the people" are the ones who do his bidding. Doing that is one of the first steps a wanna be dictator does, undermine the press, accuse them of being the enemy of the people, and convincing a large mass of people it's "us against them" and dividing the nation. During rallies, he points them out, gets his flock to boo and hiss at the press. This is a wannabe dictator in action. He's a divider of the first order, the grandest and most dangerous divider in our history.

He's also stupid and a buffoon, and with you got a moron in charge of the nuclear codes, a man whose never been tested in crisis such as those who have faced other presidents, a man who venerates our enemies and excoriates our friends, you have a threat to our national security.

On top of all that, he's a criminal. He's been laundering money with the Russian oligarchs going back to the 80s, and some drug cartel types might be in the mix, but it's mostly Russians, and you can toss in obstruction of justice, and who knows what else Mueller will find and he's going to find a lot, I feel very confident about that. If I'm wrong, fine, but my gut feeling is that he's about to unlease a big one, on Trump.

Even Ann Coulter is experiencing buyer's remorse.
 
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rocket88 said:
He uses a teleprompter sometimes. I don't have a problem with it myself, you are the one asserting that the American people were sick of politicians who use them.

Despite your overly worshipful B.S., Trump is one of them.
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I listed several reasons why Trump was elected, not using a teleprompter much was just one of them.
 
OscarLevant said:
Your sidestepping aside,
Did I mention anything but the FACT that trump won ONLY because of a FLUKE in the electoral college?

Nope. Nor did you refute it.

Nor can you. It's the one thing you cannot refute, because it's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Trump won only because of a fluke of the electoral college, and everything you say
is to sidestep that one fact, why?

Because you can't handle the truth.

I'll accept that he won by a fluke of the electoral college, only because it's the one thing that you can't dispute or trivialize.

Also, republicans purged 1.1 million blacks from the voter registration rolls. (Kris Kobach's "Interstate Crosscheck Program" ) The purged numbers vastly exceeded the vote count Trump won by in the swing states. The voters who were purged were given provisional ballots. Part of the Jill Stein lawsuit was to get those provisional ballots counted ( 'cause they don't count them in many red states. I wonder why. ) But, the republicans denied her a recount. I wonder why.

So, there's a whole lotta cheatin' goin' on. Republicans can't win by popular vote, they got to cheat. Yeah, Hillary and DNC didn't play fair during the primary (but the DNC shenanigans don't account for her 3 million vote win, but even if she and bernie tied, she would have won the primary anyway, because of the superdelegates), but she didnt cheat during the general, that is certain. Trump wasn't exactly a choir boy to get the nomination, either.

But, you'll say 'sore loser'.

I could only imagine what republicans would have done if she had won the presidency, and republicans found out her team had purged 1.1 million republicans from the voting registration rolls. Well, not two worry, in the blue states, they count provisional ballots.


But, if they didn't , republicans would have marched on washington witch torches and pitch forks.

I hate to be the one to tell you, but the GOP is the biggest scam operation in the United States.

Well, almost, the Trump presidency is on top of the list, er.... Mueller's list.


He's going down.
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The elections have been running under the same rules for a very long time and Trump won. There is a reason why there is an electoral college and that we don't vote for president by popular vote. That's why the system is in place.
 
OscarLevant said:
Any time Trump gives a formal speech, he uses a teleprompter. Presidents, including this one, give formal speeches a lot more than "rarely" and you have the temerity to accuse someone of being dishonest.
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I listed several reasons why Trump was elected president, not using a teleprompter much is but one of them. It is dishonest to imply that Trump uses one a lot more than not. People were sick of the establishment, the politically correct, and crime syndicate dynasties such as the Clintons.
 
code1211 said:
We can still view/listen to the media outlets.

The caveat, though, is that the a-holes are no longer reporting- they are campaigning.

It's laughable that they present themselves as impartial arbiters of truth.

The guys hawking cigarettes in the past were more honest and knowledgable than most of the talking heads on the screen. At least they were open about their motives.

LSMFT.
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Capitalism on its face is a better truth then most.
 
OscarLevant said:
If Trump tries to usurp a liberal cause, like the dreamers, or DACA, I assure you, he's doing it for a political end, an end of which has nothing to do with the helping DACA or dreamers. He could help both, just approve a few bills that were written by dems to help these groups.

If you think he is trying to help these groups, you are not paying attention, or you are deluded by Fox news, or both.

Trump is interested in only one thing, his bank accounts and his business, and making sure his name is in the news, 24/7


That's it.

He undermined DACA so he could use it as a bargaining chip for his wall.

When SCOTUS undermined Trump's repealing Obama's DACA directive, he then tried to blame dems for what he caused, but all it was was whining about not getting his wall. Even his own congress and senate didn't give it to him.

As for "resolving issues", he's focused on the wrong things, and on the right things, he has the wrong solutions.

The wall is a boondoggle and won't do much, given that half of all undocs are visa overstays, a number which will jump if there were a wall.

the wall would cost untold billions and not be effective. So, he gives billions in tax breaks to the super rich, which is not needed because the super rich are doing just fine, and then signs a bloated omnibus bill, and the ensuing deficits, what's he going to do about that? Build a frickin' wall? To pay for the deficits, he and repubs want "entitlement reform". This is what drives the GOP, when they holler "smaller government", that's dog whistle talk for more goodies for rich people, and less goodies for poor people. You say 'tax breaks for middle class? they got a few crumbs, not much, but those gains will soon be eroded given that huge deficits historically lead to high inflation, or ghastly debt, or both. and we got both, plenty of both, already, so he's fanning the fire.

He's also the weakest president in history. Fox goons are leading him around by the nose, he gets his info from them, he hires them, consults with them, echos their BS in tweets just after they BS it on TV, etc., long before he even pays attention to his security staff, his military, or anyone else.


Trump is a wanna be dictator. He's accused the press of being "the enemy of the people". Nixon only said they were the enemy, which is to say, his enemy, he never said they were the enemy of the people, and never on a public forum. No right thinking president would call the press the enemy of the people simple because of teh 1st amendment, we need a vigorous free press. It's accepted that the press doesn't get it right all the time, but in no way are they supposed to be a propaganda tool of the President, and that's what Trump wants. The only press, in his bizarre world view, that are not "the enemy of the people" are the ones who do his bidding. Doing that is one of the first steps a wanna be dictator does, undermine the press, accuse them of being the enemy of the people, and convincing a large mass of people it's "us against them" and dividing the nation. During rallies, he points them out, gets his flock to boo and hiss at the press. This is a wannabe dictator in action. He's a divider of the first order, the grandest and most dangerous divider in our history.

He's also stupid and a buffoon, and with you got a moron in charge of the nuclear codes, a man whose never been tested in crisis such as those who have faced other presidents, a man who venerates our enemies and excoriates our friends, you have a threat to our national security.

On top of all that, he's a criminal. He's been laundering money with the Russian oligarchs going back to the 80s, and some drug cartel types might be in the mix, but it's mostly Russians, and you can toss in obstruction of justice, and who knows what else Mueller will find and he's going to find a lot, I feel very confident about that. If I'm wrong, fine, but my gut feeling is that he's about to unlease a big one, on Trump.

Even Ann Coulter is experiencing buyer's remorse.
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Wow! Your hate is evident.

The Supreme Court only asked that the lower courts do their work before they would review the case.

Do Executive Orders get repealed? I thought that was reserved to actual laws.

In Reagan's term, the Dems agreed to border security in exchange for amnesty. They got amnesty and that solved the problem. No, wait! The problem is back. What happened?

What happened is that the poor schmucks living in the S-hole countries south of here would like to live here. If I was there, I'd rather live here, too.

Hell! I'm already here and I'd rather live here.

Most of your post is pretty much blah, blah, blah.

I'm a bit amazed that you hold up Ann Coulter as your guiding light of logic and reason.

How's your 401K doing?
 
Oborosen said:
Capitalism on its face is a better truth then most.
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I agree!

Self interest is a powerful motivator. The resulting actions are almost always very honest.

Capitalism simply employs self interest to motivate action. Very simple. Very direct.
 
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