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This Is What Record-Low Unemployment Looks Like in America

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"In towns where workers are scarce, employers are boosting pay and perks and stepping up recruiting—all while trying to avoid raising prices.

What will happen when the U.S. unemployment rate falls below 4 percent, which is expected to occur by this summer?"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...record-low-unemployment-looks-like-in-america

What will happen? Democrats will flip out and trip all over themselves trying to somehow credit Obama. LAFF
 
No need to trip over anything, the facts and anybody who knows anything about economics will tell you economies move slowly. The economy was headed to depression when Obama took office, both parties even mentioned it in the primaries that this was where the economy was heading. And it turned around drastically during his 8 years. Trump inherited the economy that improved under Obama

Maybe you can state any policy at all and why it had a role of increasing employment. I want specifics, and your reasoning as to how it improved jobs. He's pretty much done nothing but actually harm jobs in solar, steel and aluminum with his dumb tariffs, and reduced the revenue coming in from tourism.

Funny, the hacks claimed Obama's numbers were inflated whenever they were good, yet suddenly you are living by the numbers

You guys are so transparent. I know you won't answer with anything than some stupid one line deflection, or post a link to a right wing rag without any argument of your own, because you likely got none, or you would have made an argument other than the stupid childish BS that is all to common here.
 
If you think Trump is the reason for a low unemployment rate that has steadily been falling for 6 years then you’re just stupid.


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What will happen? Democrats will flip out and trip all over themselves trying to somehow credit Obama. LAFF

How can you not give credit to Obama? Trump hasn't done anything. The Tax cut he passed has only been in effect for less than two months and we were already seeing growth before that. Growth isn't spiking. Unemployment isn plummeting. It's steadly heading in the same exact direction it's been going in for 7 1/2 years under Obama. Ever since he passed the stimulus package in 2009, and it took effect reversing the recession.

Unemployment already has nowhere to go. We're already at full employment. You can't create more jobs when there are no workers left to occupy them. So we're borrowing a ton of money to pay for a tax cut to supposedly create jobs, but our economy is already maxed out on employment and can't handle anymore. Businesses will have no choice, but to take that extra money and invest it overseas in countries where there actually are workers available to do the jobs.
 
Technological unemployment will make ALL human labor, or nearly 85 percent of it, IRRELEVANT within the next decade. Try explaining that to a bunch of angry old white men who are nearing retirement and Social Security. Will they care?
Probably not, but large swaths of freshly unemployed will, and those same angry old white men will freak the Hell out all over again.

Enjoy the near four percent unemployment while you can, but if UBI (Universal Basic Income) ever comes up for a vote, just know this, Trump supporters:

YOU CAN'T STOP WHAT'S COMING.
 
If you think Trump is the reason for a low unemployment rate that has steadily been falling for 6 years then you’re just stupid.

Donald Trump is basically like Fat Elvis. He's just singing the songs that better black musicians wrote before him, but since the country is brimming with racists white people they only recognize the brilliance of the music after he sang them. So now they think Trump is the King of Economics when in reality is just a fat worthless asshole that will likely die on a toilet.
 
How can you not give credit to Obama? Trump hasn't done anything. The Tax cut he passed has only been in effect for less than two months and we were already seeing growth before that. Growth isn't spiking. Unemployment isn plummeting. It's steadly heading in the same exact direction it's been going in for 7 1/2 years under Obama. Ever since he passed the stimulus package in 2009, and it took effect reversing the recession.

Unemployment already has nowhere to go. We're already at full employment. You can't create more jobs when there are no workers left to occupy them. So we're borrowing a ton of money to pay for a tax cut to supposedly create jobs, but our economy is already maxed out on employment and can't handle anymore. Businesses will have no choice, but to take that extra money and invest it overseas in countries where there actually are workers available to do the jobs.

actually he has done quite a bit but not that you care have a nice day.
no obama doesn't get credit for this. he isn't president and hasn't been for well over a year now.
 
"What will happen? Democrats will flip out and trip all over themselves trying to somehow credit Obama. LAFF "

Boy do I know liberals or what?
 
actually he has done quite a bit but

Yet, you cannot name a single solitary thing. The tax cut is literally the only piece of significant legislation he has passed the entire time he's been in office, and it only just recently took effect.

no Obama doesn't get credit for this. he isn't president

Just going to hang on to this quote for when the economy starts to go south like it did towards the end of Bush's 2nd term. Only a matter of time.
 
Yet, you cannot name a single solitary thing. The tax cut is literally the only piece of significant legislation he has passed the entire time he's been in office, and it only just recently took effect.



Just going to hang on to this quote for when the economy starts to go south like it did towards the end of Bush's 2nd term. Only a matter of time.

Nope he has repealed quite a few of obama's EO's that were actually strangling businesses.
he has had different agencies making it easier for businesses to operate.

he has done quite a few things again not that you would care or bother to even look up.

I am sure there will be a stock market sell off. It is expected and it is coming at some point in time.
market corrections are a part of the system of check and balances.

how do you not know this by now?

*sigh*

you guys and your blame bush nonsense. do you not do any research on stuff just like like throwing
crap at a wall and hope something sticks?

i guess that is the case.
 
you guys and your blame bush nonsense.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Wow. I was saving this quote assuming I would need it in a few months. This has to be the worlds fastest hypocritical contradiction.

no Obama doesn't get credit for this. he isn't president

So, I'm not allowed to blame Bush for economic problems that happened after six full years of Bush decisions including five full years of tax cuts for the wealthy, and I'm not allowed to give Obama credit for economic success that continued for seven months into his presidency, but the instant Trump takes office he gets all the credit for everything good whether he actually passed any significant legislation or not. The hypocrisy is just staggering.
 
If you think Trump is the reason for a low unemployment rate that has steadily been falling for 6 years then you’re just stupid.


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That would be correct, Pres. Trump has little do with unemployment. You can however give credit to an increasingly conservative Congress. If you want to convince me otherwise, just post one thing that Pres. Obama did unilaterally that could have triggered this trend.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Wow. I was saving this quote assuming I would need it in a few months. This has to be the worlds fastest hypocritical contradiction.



So, I'm not allowed to blame Bush for economic problems that happened after six full years of Bush decisions including five full years of tax cuts for the wealthy, and I'm not allowed to give Obama credit for economic success that continued for seven months into his presidency, but the instant Trump takes office he gets all the credit for everything good whether he actually passed any significant legislation or not. The hypocrisy is just staggering.

Nope. you get to lay that blame where it belongs - with the increasingly liberal Congress during Pres. Bush's term in office.
 
No need to trip over anything, the facts and anybody who knows anything about economics will tell you economies move slowly. The economy was headed to depression when Obama took office, both parties even mentioned it in the primaries that this was where the economy was heading. And it turned around drastically during his 8 years. Trump inherited the economy that improved under Obama
"Turned around drastically" Not hardly. Worst post-recession recovery since WW II. Economy bottomed out about five months after Obama took office and struggled to recover against his economy killing policies for the rest of his term.
Sampson Simpson said:
Maybe you can state any policy at all and why it had a role of increasing employment. I want specifics, and your reasoning as to how it improved jobs. He's pretty much done nothing but actually harm jobs in solar, steel and aluminum with his dumb tariffs, and reduced the revenue coming in from tourism.
And yet business and consumer enthusiasm are up strongly, we just set a record for job openings. Discouraged workers are coming back to the job market and more people think the country is heading in the right direction.
Sampson said:
Funny, the hacks claimed Obama's numbers were inflated whenever they were good, yet suddenly you are living by the numbers
And others that Obama's were manna from heaven but Trump's are garbage. Worst both ways, my friend.
Sampson said:
You guys are so transparent. I know you won't answer with anything than some stupid one line deflection, or post a link to a right wing rag without any argument of your own, because you likely got none, or you would have made an argument other than the stupid childish BS that is all to common here.
I admire your openness and willing to listen to opposing arguments without bias.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Wow. I was saving this quote assuming I would need it in a few months. This has to be the worlds fastest hypocritical contradiction.



So, I'm not allowed to blame Bush for economic problems that happened after six full years of Bush decisions including five full years of tax cuts for the wealthy, and I'm not allowed to give Obama credit for economic success that continued for seven months into his presidency, but the instant Trump takes office he gets all the credit for everything good whether he actually passed any significant legislation or not. The hypocrisy is just staggering.

so as typical you didn't address a single thing i said concession noted.
 
"In towns where workers are scarce, employers are boosting pay and perks and stepping up recruiting—all while trying to avoid raising prices.

What will happen when the U.S. unemployment rate falls below 4 percent, which is expected to occur by this summer?"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...record-low-unemployment-looks-like-in-america

What will happen? Democrats will flip out and trip all over themselves trying to somehow credit Obama. LAFF

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage will help Labor more on to better jobs, in a more capital manner.
 
"In towns where workers are scarce, employers are boosting pay and perks and stepping up recruiting—all while trying to avoid raising prices.

What will happen when the U.S. unemployment rate falls below 4 percent, which is expected to occur by this summer?"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...record-low-unemployment-looks-like-in-america

What will happen? Democrats will flip out and trip all over themselves trying to somehow credit Obama. LAFF

I find your closing line curious. You seem to have realized the weakness in your position. That's important. It's the first part of the trial tactic called "taking the sting out" of bad evidence you know that the other side will produce.

The problem is that you have managed to **** up employment of that tactic. You see, saying "[haha, they're going to show that I'm full of ****]" is not how you take the sting out. You have to actually do something to try to show why the evidence is not so bad. If you cannot do that, then you elicit it to make yourself look open and honest, but otherwise avoid it until you can deal with it. What you do not do is mock them over the fact that they're about to kick your ass.

Here is "somehow" crediting "Obama":

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Now, in reality, we call that evidence. It has stayed in that rough vicinity. It is apparently still 4.1%. I'm too lazy to dig up the graphs.

I'll also note: in no way does Obama deserve full credit. But neither does Trump. Trump cannot be credited with anything more than a DOW kick resulting from giving cash flush corporations a tax cut, thereby boosting stock buy-backs and similar stock price supports. And, then there was some deregulation orders - many are tied up in court because of problems with compliance with congress's Administrative Procedure Act - but those too are only going to effect a short term stock price bump if they are perceived at lowering business marginal costs, hence marginal profits.

Whatever caused that massive decline in the unemployment rate under Obama, it caused the same in 2018. Trump's stuff is going to take some time to come online, like all such complicated legislation in a complicated world economy does.



Extra credit: does anyone want to find out wither KLATTU criticized the decline in unemployment rate under Obama by talking about supposed "real unemployment", which takes into account the absolute number of people not working but not the reason why?


:lol:

(Edit: Below this "lol" emoticon, there is a graph in grey with a red line. I think it might have been one of those "real unemployment" distractors but I"m not sure. I linked the wrong graph. I removed the link from my post but it won't go away. What the hell? Does anyone know how to make it go away? Can a mod make it go away? It seems a fault in the software. It's happened before. Once the image was posted via URL, it gets permanently stuck in the post, unless the post is entirely deleted.)
 

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Technological unemployment will make ALL human labor, or nearly 85 percent of it, IRRELEVANT within the next decade.

i don't agree with your timeline at all, but yes, this is happening even for highly skilled labor. the robots in my field are a little hit and miss at this point, but that's where the company is putting a chunk of its money currently.
 
i don't agree with your timeline at all, but yes, this is happening even for highly skilled labor. the robots in my field are a little hit and miss at this point, but that's where the company is putting a chunk of its money currently.

You're RIGHT... I probably SHOULD have said "STARTING with the next decade", but I'll put it this way, anyone considering a career in over the road trucking may want to have their head examined.

Residential plumbers, electricians and carpenters are probably safe, and I imagine HVAC guys probably are as well.
 
"In towns where workers are scarce, employers are boosting pay and perks and stepping up recruiting—all while trying to avoid raising prices.

What will happen when the U.S. unemployment rate falls below 4 percent, which is expected to occur by this summer?"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...record-low-unemployment-looks-like-in-america

What will happen? Democrats will flip out and trip all over themselves trying to somehow credit Obama. LAFF

Are you requesting a pat on the head, or an "attaboy" directed at your American Duterte?
Trump urges death penalty for drug dealers - BBC News
...."Take a look at some of these countries where they don't play games, they don't have a drug problem," said Mr Trump on Monday.

He has previously praised Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte, whose war against drug dealers has led to extra-judicial killings.......

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000024
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You're RIGHT... I probably SHOULD have said "STARTING with the next decade", but I'll put it this way, anyone considering a career in over the road trucking may want to have their head examined.

Residential plumbers, electricians and carpenters are probably safe, and I imagine HVAC guys probably are as well.

yeah, i agree there.
 
How can you not give credit to Obama? Trump hasn't done anything.

Let's put your obviously biased and uncontrolled hatred aside.... So you're saying that all these jobs, tax cuts, record employment, business investments, etc. have absolutely nothing to do with Trump? I'm not calling the man Jesus, but it still seems that all these positives basically came from the fact that Frau Clinton isn't in office.
 
Let's put your obviously biased and uncontrolled hatred aside.... So you're saying that all these jobs, tax cuts, record employment, business investments, etc. have absolutely nothing to do with Trump? I'm not calling the man Jesus, but it still seems that all these positives basically came from the fact that Frau Clinton isn't in office.

If you can still cite "recond employment" after seeing a clear chart that plotts unemployment over ttthe past 10 years, then you suffer from some kind of learning disability. We created the same number of jobs in 2017 that we did in 2016.

Try to look at real numbers not your feelings.
 
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