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    Re: Positive Benefits to Ending Net Neutrality...

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Means nothing now; since we got alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; instead of a Mission to Mars.
    So, declare war on Mars? We'd be there in a week.
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    Re: Positive Benefits to Ending Net Neutrality...

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Is this why Obamacare worked out so well?
    With healthcare, you can't really control how much you use. That's why you need insurance. You're pre-emptively paying a flat fee just in case you have to use it, but hoping you never do. So in the case of insurance, you have to guess how much an individual will use which means you have no choice, but to treat it as if everyone will use the average amount. Furthermore, with healthcare you cannot deny any individual the share of it they need, therefore you cannot allow anybody to forgo paying their share. That is of course unless they legitimately can't afford their share, in which case you would subsidize it so they are at least paying the portion that they can afford and not getting away scot-free entirely.

    With the internet, each person has radical control over how much of it they use on a month to month basis which is why charging a flat fee for unlimited access leads to radical overuse. If I can use as much data as I want I'll run spotify and netflix all day in the background and never turn them off even when I go to work. But if I can get all the immunizations in the world I want, I won't keep going to the doctor to have a needle stuck in my arm. If I can get all the free radiation treatment I could ever want, it would be identical to the amount of radiation treatment I can't live without.

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    Re: Positive Benefits to Ending Net Neutrality...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    Contrary to the popular belief of many super liberals you do not get rich in this country by gouging people. You get wealthy by making a very small amount of money off of millions of people. Competition from other sources like Direct T.V and Dish networks do a pretty effective job of preventing cable companies from radically overcharging.
    Just a little response to that par of your post.

    One of those "dish" networks was bought up by AT&T. We had AT&T wired service, and they are now trying to push everyone they can into the less infrastructure intensive satellite option. Couple with that the way Comcast, AT&T and Verizon are gobbling up content providers and you'll have a hint as to why those companies spent over 100 million lobbying to ditch NN.

    That is the root problem, imo - M&A, consolidation, monopoly. That's why I oppose it.
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    Re: Positive Benefits to Ending Net Neutrality...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    With healthcare, you can't really control how much you use. That's why you need insurance. You're pre-emptively paying a flat fee just in case you have to use it, but hoping you never do. So in the case of insurance, you have to guess how much an individual will use which means you have no choice, but to treat it as if everyone will use the average amount. Furthermore, with healthcare you cannot deny any individual the share of it they need, therefore you cannot allow anybody to forgo paying their share. That is of course unless they legitimately can't afford their share, in which case you would subsidize it so they are at least paying the portion that they can afford and not getting away scot-free entirely.

    With the internet, each person has radical control over how much of it they use on a month to month basis which is why charging a flat fee for unlimited access leads to radical overuse. If I can use as much data as I want I'll run spotify and netflix all day in the background and never turn them off even when I go to work. But if I can get all the immunizations in the world I want, I won't keep going to the doctor to have a needle stuck in my arm. If I can get all the free radiation treatment I could ever want, it would be identical to the amount of radiation treatment I can't live without.
    I already have a data cap. Most people do. I come nowhere near hitting it every month. If we have virtually unlimited data right now and we are not abusing it like you suggest we would, then why would we start now?
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    Re: Positive Benefits to Ending Net Neutrality...

    What objection can there be to a redundant fiber optic network connecting all States of the Union and the general government?

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    Re: Positive Benefits to Ending Net Neutrality...

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    My friend...you know I love most of what you have to say, but I'm not with you on this one.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6c5b39f772cb

    Here's another approach:

    Internet in America: The biggest problem, a lack of competition, could be solved by a radical idea - Business Insider

    There are always options...it just depends on whether your priority is to do what's good for the customer or the shareholder.
    I am always amazed that some people think being rich is the ultimate goal of a life. I know plenty of truly rich people. Most of them are miserable. Happiest people I have ever met were dead broke. In fact, most of us will likely say the happiest times in our lives were as kids living paycheck to paycheck. If money is your goal, you will never have enough.

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