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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Actually, my research shows that its about 25% who are helpless before persuasion.

    That's about how many people believe nonsense, across ideologies.

    Check it out the next time you see a poll about some ridiculous concept being believed by people. It'll be a bout 25%.
    A quarter of Americans who are unable (or unwilling?) to evaluate information and change their minds.

    Very disturbing.
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    There are several reasons, here's some of my thoughts

    1. Americans education system sucks and in general people are idiots (but I guess that is probably the case all over the world). We worship the rich for some reason (really blew up with Reagan and greed is good 80s mentality) and worse, rich dumb people who really didn't do anything, like Kardashian, Trumps, Hiltons. And the geniuses that continue to bring this coutnry forward nobody knows about

    2. Propaganda. Free speech we have is being abused, it allows anybody to publish anything they want, spread lies, spread hate, spread ignorance, misinformation, and its protected. So not only are people in general not very smart or well education (and don't think rationally) they are easily influenced and propagandized by this BS

    3. Our political system where the politicians work for the rich, all they need to do is manipulate the people to vote for them while they protect he rich and give them all the wealth. So they play up the ignorance and lies, give it credence, and do anything to distract people from the fact they are either doing nothing to solve any problems, or actively forking us.

    4. Voting- voting is not a national holiday and voter turnout is really low and politicians are trying ot make it harder and harder to vote. This allows the extremists to pick the politicians, who will then continue to fork us

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    It's gotten so bad that the useful idiots will even believe the trolls and propagandists in the Mainstream Media.


    “People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.”
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by <alt>doxygen View Post
    Thanks for the Birther Perspective.
    My post has nothing to do with "Birther". It has to do with human nature.
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    When was the last time someone on the left praised Putin, saying he was a great leader and doing a good job rebuilding Russia?
    Looks like your Dear Leader is holding that trap-door open.
    The left is upset that Putin and Russia are trying to influence our elections and yet Putin purposely praises Trump, to get the left all riled up to influence our coming up elections and the left falls for it hook, line, and sinker like rabid dogs.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The left is upset that Putin and Russia are trying to influence our elections and yet Putin purposely praises Trump, to get the left all riled up to influence our coming up elections and the left falls for it hook, line, and sinker like rabid dogs.
    Wow. That's the most convoluted way to get to 'left is dumb' that I've ever seen.

    Just wondering, why does Putin want to rile up the left again? The reason is probably buried in your post somewhere but I can't sort it all out.
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    We are too welcoming. Not necessarily a bad thing. It is what we are all about.
    That's not what it says. Try reading the article.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I will admit, for some time in my twenties and early thirties, I was willing to try almost any new cereal. Twice the marshmallows? Little cookies baked by elves!? Yes please!
    I still miss the old formulation of Count Chocula and Boo-Berry, even some iffy Franken-Berry. The new ones just aren't the same.

    To embrace that knowledge about sales/propaganda, one has to admit they may be wrongly influenced by it, and they have to work hard to differentiate facts from fiction.
    Most people avoid ever admitting they are wrong, it's primal.
    Most people avoiding hard boring critical investigation and analysis, is the default for most people...who wants to do that!?

    As such, most people will believe on some level, things they are told, without admitting they were wrong, and without any desire to figure out what's right. And since political action is so divorced and easily obfuscated from the negative or positive effects it has on our daily lives...there is little incentive for most people to "get it right".


    Not too long from now, if they poll how people voted for Trump, it'll be fewer than actually did.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Americans believe just about everything on the internet. And, the left feeds off anything they can to use against Trump. We know that Putin is trying to sow discord and distrust in American politics and the democratic process. I found it interesting that the other day Putin praised Trump for something and he did it on purpose to sow discord with American politics and sure enough, the left falls right through the trap door.


    What examples do you have to support your claim that “left falls right through the trap door.”?

    As long as Putin praises Trump, Trump will keep going easy on Putin. Trump has called critics of his coziness with Trump “jealous.” It seems to me Trump has stepped through the trap door, that Putin custom-made just for him, long ago.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Wow. That's the most convoluted way to get to 'left is dumb' that I've ever seen.

    Just wondering, why does Putin want to rile up the left again? The reason is probably buried in your post somewhere but I can't sort it all out.
    Not buried at all. It is well known before the 2016 election even happened that Putin wanted to undermine American's faith in the democratic process and here you libbies are, falling for it hook, line, and sinker - like wild rabid dogs.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-wa...103555927.html

    “More than any attempt to get one candidate or another elected, this [Russian influence operation] is about discrediting the entire idea of a free and fair election,” says Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and chief technology officer of CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity company that did the analysis of the DNC hack.

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