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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots



    The only real defense against bots and trolls is an intellectual offense, and we aren’t ready for it.....
    This is why...
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    The very same reason that Americans are such suckers for the best in the world USA propaganda system.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Usually, is it simply the right wing being Clueless and Causeless.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Political advertising/salesmanship is no different than any other advertising/salesmanship. 15% of folks will try any new product, 15% will never try a new product and the remaining 70% are subject to the influence of advertising/salesmanship.
    I will admit, for some time in my twenties and early thirties, I was willing to try almost any new cereal. Twice the marshmallows? Little cookies baked by elves!? Yes please!
    I still miss the old formulation of Count Chocula and Boo-Berry, even some iffy Franken-Berry. The new ones just aren't the same.

    To embrace that knowledge about sales/propaganda, one has to admit they may be wrongly influenced by it, and they have to work hard to differentiate facts from fiction.
    Most people avoid ever admitting they are wrong, it's primal.
    Most people avoiding hard boring critical investigation and analysis, is the default for most people...who wants to do that!?

    As such, most people will believe on some level, things they are told, without admitting they were wrong, and without any desire to figure out what's right. And since political action is so divorced and easily obfuscated from the negative or positive effects it has on our daily lives...there is little incentive for most people to "get it right".

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    On whole, we react, we don't think. It's one of the fundamental problems I see with aggregate American culture. We've gotten to a point where thinking is either tedious or frowned upon. So we hear something and we react to it immediately. We're a Reality-TV society now.
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots



    The only real defense against bots and trolls is an intellectual offense, and we aren’t ready for it.....
    Americans believe just about everything on the internet. And, the left feeds off anything they can to use against Trump. We know that Putin is trying to sow discord and distrust in American politics and the democratic process. I found it interesting that the other day Putin praised Trump for something and he did it on purpose to sow discord with American politics and sure enough, the left falls right through the trap door.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots



    The only real defense against bots and trolls is an intellectual offense, and we aren’t ready for it.....
    It's gotten so bad that the useful idiots will even believe the trolls and propagandists in the Mainstream Media.


    “People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.”
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Political advertising/salesmanship is no different than any other advertising/salesmanship. 15% of folks will try any new product, 15% will never try a new product and the remaining 70% are subject to the influence of advertising/salesmanship.
    In a way I think you re right. I read somewhere that over 90% of elections are won by the candidate who spends the most, so as you stated people are influenced by advertising. I also think that people want to believe that which agrees with their ideas. So if all you have to do is put a lie out there that goes along the ideas of the people you are trying to reach, they will believe, even if it seems to be impossible. Remember the idea that Hillary Clinton was running a child slavery ring out of a pizza parlor and so many people thought it was true to the point that a man went in and shot up the place. Most of us thought, how could anyone believe such a thing, but many people thought it was true as that went along with the opinion they had of Clinton.

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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    Americans believe just about everything on the internet. And, the left feeds off anything they can to use against Trump. We know that Putin is trying to sow discord and distrust in American politics and the democratic process. I found it interesting that the other day Putin praised Trump for something and he did it on purpose to sow discord with American politics and sure enough, the left falls right through the trap door.
    When was the last time someone on the left praised Putin, saying he was a great leader and doing a good job rebuilding Russia?
    Looks like your Dear Leader is holding that trap-door open.
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    Re: Why Americans are such easy targets for trolls and bots

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    I don't know about that.

    We have ~ 350 million people in this country and you only hear about the stupid ones.

    It's like internet scams. They written in a transparently phony way so "normal" people will just ignore it, but only the most gullible will respond. The most gullible are your target audience. And I argue there aren't that many of them. But with the internet you can reach 100 million people for $100 bucks. It's just a numbers game. One out of a million is 100 suckers.

    It just seems common due to publicity.
    There's a ****load of stupid ones. Evidence: what's in the White House.
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