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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    When a young Muslim in a foreign country engages in a violent act it is terrorism.
    Not necessarily. It's only considered terrorism if the act was an act of violence against civilians in the pursuit of political aims.

    When a young white kid in America engages in a violent act it is a societal failure.
    Not true. Is consider some of the incidents during antifa protest riots to bee acts of terrorism and most of those people are white.

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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    This post pissed me off.

    When I read what it was like for the Parkland shooter's mother in the months preceding her death I felt a deep sense of sympathy. The asshat had domestically abused that woman to the point she was terrified of him. His behavioral problems were in the extreme long before he took off and killed people. I can't blame her. He was dealing with crap all the way back to his preteen years.
    why wasn't his father around to beat his ass for hurting his mother? If I dared even mouth off to my mother my father would take me over his knee without a chance of escape. This bastard's father thought? Where was he? Dead? In the home impregnating more women?

    Not a word about the father of this man.

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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    When a young Muslim in a foreign country engages in a violent act it is terrorism. When a young white kid in America engages in a violent act it is a societal failure.
    To your first point. Terrorism by definition is "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims", thus by blanketing a statement on "muslim", "young" and "violent" does not imply political motivations. Why has that go anything to do with firearms in the US??

    I agree a societal failure in not removing an object, a firearm, from the normality of daily lives. A failure of mental health programs also.

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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by markjs View Post
    It's a cultural issue, this doesn't happen elsewhere in the world, there's something wrong in our culture. I think it has a lot to do with disconnected society and that starts at home.
    Disconnected society?

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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    why wasn't his father around to beat his ass for hurting his mother? If I dared even mouth off to my mother my father would take me over his knee without a chance of escape. This bastard's father thought? Where was he? Dead? In the home impregnating more women?

    Not a word about the father of this man.
    The mother adopted Cruz. Both parents were out of the picture.
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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    why wasn't his father around to beat his ass for hurting his mother? If I dared even mouth off to my mother my father would take me over his knee without a chance of escape. This bastard's father thought? Where was he? Dead? In the home impregnating more women?

    Not a word about the father of this man.
    The adoptive dad died. He was Dead.

    His adoptive father died of a heart attack more than a decade ago.
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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    The adoptive dad died. He was Dead.

    His adoptive father died of a heart attack more than a decade ago.
    Yeah I think not having a father plays a big role in it.

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    Re: The REAL reasons for mass shootings.

    Quote Originally Posted by markjs View Post
    The guns aren't it, and neither is mental health. That said I wouldn't mind tighter background checks and more limits on semi autos, or not, I don't think that will change much either way. Nor do I think armed teachers is the answer; I'd bet a dollar to a hole in a doughnut it causes trouble before it saves anyone, we shall see.

    The thing that's causing this is the one thing NOBODY wants to look at, nobody want to take this blame because this blame can only be placed when looking in the mirror!

    Parents these days, its not lack of religion or faith, or any of that, though that stuff can be good or bad like anything, depending on it's apllication. I've seen agnostics and religious folks alike sucessfully raise great kids. The simple fact is though, most of us, well intentioned as we are, are either to caught up in making a living, the daily grind or whatever it is, and have too little idea of how even to relate to our kids much less parent. All too often parenting consists of paying not a ton of attention, till the kid gets in trouble, then getting emotionally bent, punishing too severely, maybe taking it bakc later, being inconsistent, maybe, whatever it is. Sometimes it's mild physical abuse (which does not work ultimately) maybe it's neglect.

    See they barely teach balancing a check account, interest rates, all the basic crap a kid needs to learn to adult much less prosper in this society anymore. Boys are shunned from home ec, if even it's offered anymore, and parenting classes? You gotta be kidding me, but even if it's a good kid, not having sex or making kids, how bad could a parenting course in health be for them?

    Then there's bullying, overworked, underpaid teachers not connecting. Don't get me wrong, I give this maybe 10% to teachers, 20% bullies and peers, but a good 70% of the blame is at home. Even the best intentioned parents stuggle, and kids come with no operators manual. It's time we get to acknowleging the real reason our kids get so isolated, frustrated, and feel so alone,. Most of these kids aren't sociopaths, or even necessarily bad seeds, but neglect these problems long enough and they fester, when just learning to involve ourselves, be aware what is going on with our kids, not over disciplining, and definitely not neglecting disciple (worse). No I do not suggest trying to be your kids best friend, but something between authority and friend seems about right. That extra effort to connect with opur kids, if anything can reduce these incidenst, that is the one thing that will work.
    Another victim of the system that trains people to be incapable of rational thought. This forum is simply teaming with idiots and paid Trolls.....

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