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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    I'm surprised anyone is against taking action against China.
    Here's the thing.



    "ME NO LIKE! ME SMASH!" is not good foreign policy in a very complicated modern world.

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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...orts-takeovers



    It's about time we got serious. We've finally started to put the brakes on a serial burglar after he robbed 1500 homes. Late is better than never.

    We have to push back against the Chinese before it's too late. I don't know who's going to fight him tooth and tong, but I suspect the TDS crew will have issues with this. Democrats? They's been pretty quiet lately.
    You Renegotiate Trade Agreements, you do not just impose tariffs and sanctions with your trading partners, especially one that can call in their debt notes and bankrupt us over night. Trump is an Idiot.
    Decided to move on, the spitting contest on this site not longer appeals to me.
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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    I'm surprised anyone is against taking action against China.
    Wrong action............
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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Person View Post
    Here's the thing.



    "ME NO LIKE! ME SMASH!" is not good foreign policy in a very complicated modern world.
    It is ashamed no one in the US understands elementary mathematics any more. When you have a massive trade deficit, there is no downside to a trade war. I do not need cheap Chinese crap, but there are millions of people on the lower end of the economy in this country who need good jobs... I will gladly pay more for what I buy to restore America to prosperity and its rightful place in the world.

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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    It is ashamed no one in the US understands elementary mathematics any more.
    What?

    We've got tenses, grammar, syntax, and more.



    Quote Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    When you have a massive trade deficit, there is no downside to a trade war. I do not need cheap Chinese crap, but there are millions of people on the lower end of the economy in this country who need good jobs... I will gladly pay more for what I buy to restore America to prosperity and its rightful place in the world.
    There are many things wrong with what you have said. Allow me to focus on that last bit.

    If American policy makes Americans pay more for things (to 'restore America to prosperity' or whatever) but also everyone else pays less, then everyone else is always paying less for the same things. Trouble is, the feedback loop you are relying on does not exist. If we keep adding tariffs, we get more retaliation. Even if we don't hurt quite as much as an opponent, we still hurt very badly. And if we take the entire world on, we will hurt horribly indeed.

    I suppose I should just give up. If people are supporting Trump's trade war idea, we're just about cooked anyway
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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Good start would be getting the kooker left to stop trying to get something for nothing by shopping at WalMart. Cheap bastards.

    The US is an economic powerhouse, it's time we flex those muscles.
    Yes, only "the left" shops at Walmart. If your comment wasn't so ignorant it would be funny.
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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    You Renegotiate Trade Agreements, you do not just impose tariffs and sanctions with your trading partners, especially one that can call in their debt notes and bankrupt us over night. Trump is an Idiot.
    That's not how the treasuries work.

    China can't magically call in all the debt overnight. The treasuries pay off under the conditions on which they were sold.

    Do your homework next time buddy.

    That being said, I can agree with the notion that imposing tariffs with trading partners is foolish.
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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    As I've always said, tariffs are a huge ****ing mistake, and our economy is going to feel it.

    Actually, **** that, the global economy is going to feel it. There was never a time in recent history where the globe didn't get ****ed when America did.
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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by Reformedfindlay View Post
    That's not how the treasuries work.

    China can't magically call in all the debt overnight. The treasuries pay off under the conditions on which they were sold.

    Do your homework next time buddy.

    That being said, I can agree with the notion that imposing tariffs with trading partners is foolish.
    I know that they can sell off their debt, guess who they sell to, Russia, but what could go wrong there......
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    Re: U.S. Considers Broad Curbs on Chinese Imports, Takeovers

    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
    I know that they can sell off their debt, guess who they sell to, Russia, but what could go wrong there......
    #1 Russia probably wouldn't even have the money to do that

    #2 Why the hell would China want to sell the treasuries to Russia?

    The entire reason why China invested so heavily into the US treasuries is because they are incredibly safe, not because they had some master plan to try and **** over the US. Yes, they can sell the bonds (to whom would be the question) and tht would force us to raise the rates which could be scary, but they rely too heavily on us buying a lot of their **** for them to do that.
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