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HowardBThiname said:
Words come from many many places, so it doesn't matter where the term "alt left" came from -- it's now a "thing" and it's being used more and more as the weeks pass. And, it has a valid meaning -- the equal, yet opposite of alt-right.

You might not like term, but it's not going away any time soon.
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"Alt Right" is just what neo nazis and associated white supremacists started to call themselves to sound less threatening. Nobody labeled them alt-right. They labeled themselves alt-right because saying "Hello, I'm a nazi" isn't likely to get a person much respect.

So what group of nazis on the left started to call themselves "alt left" to sound less threatening?




The answer is: none, because there is no "equal, yet opposite" of "alt right". "Alt left" is just a term various persons on the far right use to sound more derisive than usual of people they consider to be on the left.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
I think I fit the definition of Alt-left pretty well. I've went from RW CT nut to progressively moderate all in the course of a decade. I still don't waver from my more traditional values and I think the Democrats come up with some pretty stupid policies, so I wouldn't be welcome in the Democratic Party. But the GOP has been so far removed from my core principles, I struggle to stay involved and have cut my ties with many in the party due to the Alt-Right sympathizers.
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You think the Democrats come up with some pretty stupid policies and you don't waver from your more traditional values.
You've piqued my interest, tell me more.
I think the Democrats come up with some pretty stupid policies, too but more often than not it's because they're trying to appease the Republican Party.
I still carry certain conservative points of view on some issues.
 
Mr Person said:
"Alt Right" is just what neo nazis and associated white supremacists started to call themselves to sound less threatening. Nobody labeled them alt-right. They labeled themselves alt-right because saying "Hello, I'm a nazi" isn't likely to get a person much respect.

So what group of nazis on the left started to call themselves "alt left" to sound less threatening?




The answer is: none, because there is no "equal, yet opposite" of "alt right". "Alt left" is just a term various persons on the far right use to sound more derisive than usual of people they consider to be on the left.
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The alt right named themselves... then showed themeslves to be extremists. So in reaction to the right having a newly named bad apple on their own party, they invented a word to call leftist extremists. But like usual, they are at war with the dictionary and use it to describe anything on the left as a pejorative. The way they use their own word, anything left of trump is alt-left.
 
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HowardBThiname said:
Words come from many many places, so it doesn't matter where the term "alt left" came from -- it's now a "thing" and it's being used more and more as the weeks pass. And, it has a valid meaning -- the equal, yet opposite of alt-right.

You might not like term, but it's not going away any time soon.
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So it is the opposite of NAZI? That is supposed to be a slur?
 
Mr Person said:
"Alt Right" is just what neo nazis and associated white supremacists started to call themselves to sound less threatening. Nobody labeled them alt-right. They labeled themselves alt-right because saying "Hello, I'm a nazi" isn't likely to get a person much respect.

So what group of nazis on the left started to call themselves "alt left" to sound less threatening?




The answer is: none, because there is no "equal, yet opposite" of "alt right". "Alt left" is just a term various persons on the far right use to sound more derisive than usual of people they consider to be on the left.
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I think it started as the neo-nazi's renaming themselves to gain mainstream attraction and many repubilcans initially bit that bait because they were desperate to disassociate themselves from the republica bush years but remain on the right. Then those nazi ass-clowns outted themselves and now those GOPers who bit that bait are trying to find themselves.
 
Fletch said:
Thats mostly true, but I think the Antifa/resistance fighters stepped up and filled that slot quite nicely.
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Antifa, BLM, OWS, La Raza, DNC - all alt-left.

j/k about the DNC, they are far too liberal to be considered alt-left... :mrgreen:
 
Mr Person said:
"Alt Right" is just what neo nazis and associated white supremacists started to call themselves to sound less threatening. Nobody labeled them alt-right. They labeled themselves alt-right because saying "Hello, I'm a nazi" isn't likely to get a person much respect.

So what group of nazis on the left started to call themselves "alt left" to sound less threatening?




The answer is: none, because there is no "equal, yet opposite" of "alt right". "Alt left" is just a term various persons on the far right use to sound more derisive than usual of people they consider to be on the left.
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Nice attempt at producing an intelligent argument... Failed pretty badly but it was a nice try...

You don't get to define the standards by which a term gets defined. That comes from society as whole. If society decides that where there is a bunch of nut cases calling themselves alt-right, then there should be an equivalent term to apply to the nut cases at the other end of the political spectrum, then that's what happens. Just because you set a standard that you want met (after the fact of it not being met, so you get to define a pre-failed standard) does not negate the fact that the alt-left is real and definable.
 
faithful_servant said:
Nice attempt at producing an intelligent argument... Failed pretty badly but it was a nice try...You don't get to define the standards by which a term gets defined. That comes from society as whole. If society decides that where there is a bunch of nut cases calling themselves alt-right, then there should be an equivalent term to apply to the nut cases at the other end of the political spectrum, then that's what happens. Just because you set a standard that you want met (after the fact of it not being met, so you get to define a pre-failed standard) does not negate the fact that the alt-left is real and definable.
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Your post is a load of baity gibberish that only succeeds in putting the cart before the horse.


You're only bearing my point out further in that none of the people who claim that "alt left" is real and definable have managed to define it, let alone to identify one single person as being "alt left" and explain why they are "alt left".

I can define "alt right" and you cannot define "alt left" because I am correct: the alt-right are self-labeled white supremacists who just wanted to rebrand themselves. Alt right = white supremacist/nazi/etc.
 
HowardBThiname said:
It's the far-left flip-side of the coin to the alt-right. There's an active leftist campaign to insist it doesn't exist, and yet -- it's spreading. In a couple of years, it will be a common as the word, "ice cream," so you'd best learn it now so you're not left behind.
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Fletch said:
Thats mostly true, but I think the Antifa/resistance fighters stepped up and filled that slot quite nicely.
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HowardBThiname said:
Words come from many many places, so it doesn't matter where the term "alt left" came from -- it's now a "thing" and it's being used more and more as the weeks pass. And, it has a valid meaning -- the equal, yet opposite of alt-right.

You might not like term, but it's not going away any time soon.
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HowardBThiname said:
I define it in the post you just responded to. I said, "It's the far-left flip-side of the coin to the alt-right."

That's pretty simple. The alt-right is a fringe group on the right of the political scale that's quite noisy and not necessarily representative of mainstream conservatives. The alt-left is a fringe group (including some in the "progressive" designation) that's quite noisy and not necessarily representative of mainstream liberalism.

You're welcome.
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faithful_servant said:
The TDS suffering, race-baiting, illegal immigrant loving, gotta have more taxes so we can buy more votes left.
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faithful_servant said:
Antifa, BLM, OWS, La Raza, DNC - all alt-left.

j/k about the DNC, they are far too liberal to be considered alt-left... :mrgreen:
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Mr Person said:
Your post is a load of baity gibberish that only succeeds in putting the cart before the horse.


You're only bearing my point out further in that none of the people who claim that "alt left" is real and definable have managed to define it, let alone to identify one single person as being "alt left" and explain why they are "alt left".

I can define "alt right" and you cannot define "alt left" because I am correct: the alt-right are self-labeled white supremacists who just wanted to rebrand themselves. Alt right = white supremacist/nazi/etc.
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As for pointing out someone who is alt-left, there at least a dozen or more on this site alone, just take look at any of of the plethora of TDS threads started here and check out the OP. Another good source for pointing out some alf-left types is this wonderful new website called "Google". Just click in the box across the top of your web-browser and type in "www.google.com" and press enter. A whole new website will magically appear with a box int eh middle of it. Click in that box and type in "alt-left" and press enter.
 
faithful_servant said:
Antifa, BLM, OWS, La Raza, DNC - all alt-left.

j/k about the DNC, they are far too liberal to be considered alt-left... :mrgreen:
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That only proves my point further. That's not a distinct group. That's a list of various labels placed on people you don't like.



"Alt left" = just another political curse word.

"Alt right" = a distinct self-defined group: white supremacist nazi types.







I suppose none of this really matters. If it wasn't "alt left", it was going to be "leftists" or "liberals".

:shrug:
 
Mr Person said:
That only proves my point further. That's not a distinct group. That's a list of various labels placed on people you don't like.



"Alt left" = just another political curse word.

"Alt right" = a distinct self-defined group: white supremacist nazi types.







I suppose none of this really matters. If it wasn't "alt left", it was going to be "leftists" or "liberals".

:shrug:
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Still trying to define the terms to fit your narrative in spite of the fact that alt-left is a definable group of people, Just because the term's path of origin doesn't match alt-right does not make it invalid. That's what you're trying to do - invalidate term that you don't like by applying your artificial standard for what makes it acceptable. Pretty sad that you can't simply accept that the left has it's own fringe and that society is calling it alt-left.

/flush
 
poweRob said:
Like I said, the right is not only at war with the dictionary, they have to invent words to support that broken ideology.
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Every word was invented at one point or another -- now, we have a new one. Better get used to it, because it's not going away. ;)
 
Grand Mal said:
It doesn't have any meaning beyond the sentence it's used it in. It's like the word 'asshole', except 'asshole' actually has a legitimate meaning.
Someone suggested that 'antifa' was an example of the alt.left. I could buy that, but that doesn't line up with how it's used in the OP, does it.
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Whoa -- I wasn't going to equate the alt-left with the word "asshole," but -- what the heck -- if the shoe fits...;)

And yes, Antifa is a good example of alt-left.
 
Mr Person said:
"Alt Right" is just what neo nazis and associated white supremacists started to call themselves to sound less threatening. Nobody labeled them alt-right. They labeled themselves alt-right because saying "Hello, I'm a nazi" isn't likely to get a person much respect.

So what group of nazis on the left started to call themselves "alt left" to sound less threatening?




The answer is: none, because there is no "equal, yet opposite" of "alt right". "Alt left" is just a term various persons on the far right use to sound more derisive than usual of people they consider to be on the left.
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It doesn't matter how a word originates after it gets here. I was totally aghast at the word, "google," as being synonymous with searching on the net, but it sure did stick, didn't it?

The term, "alt left" is sticking, too, although I find it interesting that so many are upset about it. It's a word, that's all. Sticks and stones, and all that...teach us that words can never hurt us. It would behoove the Left to understand that and just accept the new designation.

Or not...

Either way -- the term isn't going away.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Every word was invented at one point or another -- now, we have a new one. Better get used to it, because it's not going away. ;)
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I never thought it would go away. If the GOP is good at anything it's labeling then searing said label.
 
HowardBThiname said:
It doesn't matter how a word originates after it gets here. I was totally aghast at the word, "google," as being synonymous with searching on the net, but it sure did stick, didn't it?

The term, "alt left" is sticking, too, although I find it interesting that so many are upset about it. It's a word, that's all. Sticks and stones, and all that...teach us that words can never hurt us. It would behoove the Left to understand that and just accept the new designation.

Or not...

Either way -- the term isn't going away.
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Who specifically is "upset"?
 
Mr Person said:
Who specifically is "upset"?
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It doesn't follow that those who are actively denying that it's a word are not upset by it. If it didn't bother them, they wouldn't find time to post in opposition to it. That's my take anyway.
 
HowardBThiname said:
It doesn't follow that those who are actively denying that it's a word are not upset by it. If it didn't bother them, they wouldn't find time to post in opposition to it. That's my take anyway.
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This is a debate board, where debates happen. According to your "take", every single person who posts in disagreement with someone else would be "upset" - everyone on DP - and that is silly.






(Of course, I suspect we both know that announcing that a person with whom you have disagreed is "upset" is actually just a tired old baity debate board tactic)
 
Mr Person said:
This is a debate board, where debates happen. According to your "take", every single person who posts in disagreement with someone else would be "upset" - everyone on DP - and that is silly.






(Of course, I suspect we both know that announcing that a person with whom you have disagreed is "upset" is actually just a tired old baity debate board tactic)
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Don't you think there's a bit of difference between someone who engages in discussion and can disagree rationally, and someone who takes the position that something doesn't exist, when everyone knows it does? Although this time it's just a word, the denial factor is every bit as much there as it is in those who claim global warming and evolution aren't real, and then go to great lengths to try and disprove those theories.

That's how I see it, anyway.
 
HowardBThiname said:
Don't you think there's a bit of difference between someone who engages in discussion and can disagree rationally, and someone who takes the position that something doesn't exist, when everyone knows it does? Although this time it's just a word, the denial factor is every bit as much there as it is in those who claim global warming and evolution aren't real, and then go to great lengths to try and disprove those theories.

That's how I see it, anyway.
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:roll:
 
AustralianuS said:
It will be a person who is not on the air every night. My guess is Bill Maher, Trevor Noah or John Oliver.

Will the alt left go ahead and pre-disavow this?

It's pretty simple to see whats going on. Establishment media flushing toilets on the hatchet men who failed in getting Hillary elected.

So they are fueling these claims so that they can cut contract with cause therefore saving millions.

This may or may not be true since it is being reported by ABC News... but here is a link

Matt Lauer won't get paid rest of $20 million contract after NBC fired him - ABC News

Lauer wont get paid.

This is going to be the same fate for a late night liberal talk show host.

One of the alt left's main propaganda systems is about to go up in flames.
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I wanted to watch a Stephen Colbert show the other night because I heard Jennifer Lawrence would be on it, drunk. I thought that would be amusing so I brought it up on on-demand. I had to sit through about 20 straight minutes of nothing but anti-Trump jokes in order to see the segment with Lawrence. I mean he joked about nothing but Trump the whole entire time, nothing else. This is CBS and I really don't understand how a supposedly respectable network could be so one sided and biased. I mean late night comedians on the MSM networks should at least try to mix the jokes up so that everyone takes a turn getting joked at.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You think the Democrats come up with some pretty stupid policies and you don't waver from your more traditional values.
You've piqued my interest, tell me more.
I think the Democrats come up with some pretty stupid policies, too but more often than not it's because they're trying to appease the Republican Party.
I still carry certain conservative points of view on some issues.
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Well I am totally against Net Neutrality which pretty much the entire internet supports and I think the solutions for "global warming," that I have heard from Democrats are pretty stupid/ won't fix the problems. Those are probably my 2 strongest stances on any topic in politics. Yeah I realize Trump holds these positions too, but that's not enough for me. I am more of an analyst anyway, I can see past positions most people hold and just judge them on whether or not they would be a good leader. I respect both Ted Cruz and Joe Biden for different reasons. I used to be a Karl Rove type in the GOP, but it's not the same as it was even four years ago.
 
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