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What happens when Democrats are asked why they put “Illegals before Americans”

Deuce said:
How did you get here from there?
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From this: "Democrats should respond that illegal immigrants are human beings, and the majority of them are fleeing poverty or worse in order to have a shot at the American dream."
 
washunut said:
Noble statement,and I sure heartfelt. That being said there are approximately 6 billion people on earth that would like a shot at the "american dream". Why doesn't a group of ultra-rich start a foundation to buy a basket of ships and planes and start transporting the billions from nations that do not have a common border with us. Don't the poor in India and China deserve the same opportunity as folks from central and South America just because they do not have a close border to cross?
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There are immigrants fleeing their home countries all around the world. In America we primarily deal with immigrants to the south of us. It isn't necessarily about arranging transport for immigrants. It is about processing these people humanely when they make it here, which we fail to do.
 
MrPeanut said:
The choice isn't between wide open borders or abusing immigrants.
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Illegal immigrants are not being "abused" when they are called to task for breaking our laws and deported.

So what's your solution?

Do you want to enforce the border...preventing more illegal aliens from coming...while allowing those already here to get away with their crime?

Or, do you want to let them get away with their crime...while keeping the border open so more can come and break our laws?

After all, according to you they all just want a piece of the American dream.
 
Mycroft said:
From this: "Democrats should respond that illegal immigrants are human beings, and the majority of them are fleeing poverty or worse in order to have a shot at the American dream."
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Define "wide open borders" for me.
 
Grand Mal said:
C'mon, be honest. You'd rather have a beer with an illegal than a Democrat.
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I’d gladly trade most of them for most Democrats if that is your point. But I don’t see many Democrats leaving. Their food is probably better than all that soy vegan crap too. Lol.

Sorry. I couldn’t help it.
 
blackjack50 said:
I’d gladly trade most of them for most Democrats if that is your point. But I don’t see many Democrats leaving. Their food is probably better than all that soy vegan crap too. Lol.

Sorry. I couldn’t help it.
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Here's one for you...

Happines is one million illegals going south with a Democrat under each arm.
 
MrPeanut said:
There are immigrants fleeing their home countries all around the world. In America we primarily deal with immigrants to the south of us. It isn't necessarily about arranging transport for immigrants. It is about processing these people humanely when they make it here, which we fail to do.
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The right wing doesn't believe it is their warfare-State spending that is also increasing the cost of our social services.
 
Deuce said:
Define "wide open borders" for me.
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Right wing fantasy.

Entry into the Union is a federal obligation since 1808. All foreign nationals in the US should have federal id. A simple fee or fine can make that happen. The right wing is willing to ditch applied capitalism for their socialism on a national basis, at Every opportunity.
 
Mycroft said:
Illegal immigrants are not being "abused" when they are called to task for breaking our laws and deported.

So what's your solution?

Do you want to enforce the border...preventing more illegal aliens from coming...while allowing those already here to get away with their crime?

Or, do you want to let them get away with their crime...while keeping the border open so more can come and break our laws?

After all, according to you they all just want a piece of the American dream.
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https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/ice-and-border-patrol-abuses/watchdog-agency-issues-report-ice-abuse-agency

Excusing abuse by ICE because desperate people cross our border is disgusting. We can enforce the border without acting like animals. What studies do we have to prove that immigrants cause more crime than the regular population beyond crossing a border?
 
MrPeanut said:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/ice-and-border-patrol-abuses/watchdog-agency-issues-report-ice-abuse-agency

Excusing abuse by ICE because desperate people cross our border is disgusting. We can enforce the border without acting like animals. What studies do we have to prove that immigrants cause more crime than the regular population beyond crossing a border?
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From the ICE OIG report: "ICE concurred with the recommendation and has begun corrective action to address the findings in this report." So...nobody is excusing the abuses found by the ICE OIG.

Every illegal alien has committed a crime...except children who had no control over being brought to the US. However, those children...once they become an adult...who stay here are also committing a crime.
 
Mycroft said:
From the ICE OIG report: "ICE concurred with the recommendation and has begun corrective action to address the findings in this report." So...nobody is excusing the abuses found by the ICE OIG.

Every illegal alien has committed a crime...except children who had no control over being brought to the US. However, those children...once they become an adult...who stay here are also committing a crime.
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I'm sure they'll get right on it.
 
trouble13 said:
They are not a threat to you because 5hey fall in line with your voting block. If they didnt you would eviscerate them the same you do women and other miniorities that vote conservative.

Spare us the superfical and transparent righteous indignation.



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Boy, you are a fine product of the right wing propaganda machine, I could have received that response from Savage. I live among them, they are fine people. In fact, I like them more than I do certain folks who voted in the worst POTUS in the history of America. Given a choice, dame los hombres....
 
trouble13 said:
They are not a threat to you because 5hey fall in line with your voting block. If they didnt you would eviscerate them the same you do women and other miniorities that vote conservative.

Spare us the superfical and transparent righteous indignation.



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Illegal aliens are voting?
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh please. California has been rather open about the fact that they want illegals to work cheaply in the fields so that their produce will be cheap to export. You know, those California corporations who make big bucks off cheap illegal labor? Meanwhile, white people are making $15 per hour.
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So do the farmlands of the south and the meat-packing plants of the west and midwest. Whats your point?
 
Vadinho said:
Boy, you are a fine product of the right wing propaganda machine, I could have received that response from Savage. I live among them, they are fine people. In fact, I like them more than I do certain folks who voted in the worst POTUS in the history of America. Given a choice, dame los hombres....
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Fine people as in they vote the way that pleases the left. If they didn't the left would not be defending them. The fact is that whether they chose to come here or not and if they are fine people or not does not change the fact that they entered here illegally and their continued occupation here is illegal and their presence here puts a drain on resources that we don't have enough of to spare.

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poweRob said:
Illegal aliens are voting?
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They already have shown they don't respect our laws enough to obey them, why would you think our voting laws are an exception, that they agree to obey? For the minority of one's who don't vote because it's illegal, the dems are hard at work trying to get them the legal right to vote. You are deluding yourself if you think the democrats are fighting deportation as some great humanitarian effort. It's about increasing their political power by increasing their voting block.

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trouble13 said:
They already have shown they don't respect our laws enough to obey them, why would you think our voting laws are an exception, that they agree to obey? For the minority of one's who don't vote because it's illegal, the dems are hard at work trying to get them the legal right to vote. You are deluding yourself if you think the democrats are fighting deportation as some great humanitarian effort. It's about increasing their political power by increasing their voting block.

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So you have evidence of this happening or just generalized conspiracy theory griping?
 
Mycroft said:
From the ICE OIG report: "ICE concurred with the recommendation and has begun corrective action to address the findings in this report." So...nobody is excusing the abuses found by the ICE OIG.

Every illegal alien has committed a crime...except children who had no control over being brought to the US. However, those children...once they become an adult...who stay here are also committing a crime.
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Travel is a natural right. The right wing never cares about natural rights or Individual Liberty, unless it is specifically about guns.

Entry into the Union is a federal Obligation since 1808.

All foreign nationals should have a federal id. A fee or a fine, could make that happen in a market friendly manner via Capitalism.

the right wing doesn't like it, Because it is not about their socialism on a national basis.

10USC246 is also, federal law. Don't be illegal to federal law, gun lovers. It fixes a Bad example for less fortunate illegals.
 
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