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Conclusion: Democratic memo a failure... Many Nunes claims validated

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Reading the democratic memo, it didn't take long to come to the conclusion it was a total dud. It failed to discredit the republican memo and didn't debunked any of it's key points at all. (see for yourself) We should have known it was junk when the democrats decided to release it on a Friday (the classic "Friday document dump"), rather than on a Monday or Tuesday where it would get far more media coverage. The fact is, Adam Schiff and house democrats, who had hyped their counter memo since the release of the Nunes memo, knew the claims in the republican memo were valid, knew they couldn't debunk them, and wanted as little media coverage as possible when they released what they knew to be a political hail mary that would accomplished absolutely nothing.


If any of you are still under the illusion that the Schiff memo debunked anything of substance in the Republican memo, or in any way validated the use of the Steele dossier by the FBI and DOJ to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page, then you obviously haven't been paying much attention the last 4 days. If you had, you would have noticed that in spite of all the hype we heard from the mainstream media in the lead up to the thing going public, the media has said very little about it since Schiff released it last Friday. Hell, even George Stephanopoulos and the rest of the Sunday morning political shows said very little, or nothing at all about it, which tells you just how big of a failure the democratic memo truly was. If it would have contained anything substantive that discredited the FBI's abuse of the FISA court that was laid out by Nunes and the republicans, that memo would have dominated the Sunday shows and been the #1 topic of discussion on leftist blogs and in mainstream media circles both yesterday and today... but it isn't.

With few exceptions, the only things you'll find right now about the democratic memo, come from right leaning blogs and oped's written by conservative columnists... and if that doesn't shatter the illusions of those still waiving that memo around and claiming victory, nothing will.


Well done Mr. Schiff.


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Five takeaways from the Schiff memo:

1. The F.B.I. used only a small part of the information provided by Mr. Steele.
2. The surveillance court knew that Mr. Steele’s clients had a political motive.
3. The Yahoo News article was not used to corroborate Mr. Steele.
4. Republican-appointed judges approved the surveillance of Mr. Page.
5. The wiretap of Mr. Page generated useful intelligence.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/...U1eFYmGaI?amp=1#click=https://t.co/CU1eFYmGaI
 
Nunes is a mendacious Trump stooge. The finest kind.
 
Nunes is a mendacious Trump stooge. The finest kind.

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Reading the democratic memo, it didn't take long to come to the conclusion it was a total dud. It failed to discredit the republican memo and didn't debunked any of it's key points at all. (see for yourself) We should have known it was junk when the democrats decided to release it on a Friday (the classic "Friday document dump"), rather than on a Monday or Tuesday where it would get far more media coverage. The fact is, Adam Schiff and house democrats, who had hyped their counter memo since the release of the Nunes memo, knew the claims in the republican memo were valid, knew they couldn't debunk them, and wanted as little media coverage as possible when they released what they knew to be a political hail mary that would accomplished absolutely nothing.


If any of you are still under the illusion that the Schiff memo debunked anything of substance in the Republican memo, or in any way validated the use of the Steele dossier by the FBI and DOJ to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page, then you obviously haven't been paying much attention the last 4 days. If you had, you would have noticed that in spite of all the hype we heard from the mainstream media in the lead up to the thing going public, the media has said very little about it since Schiff released it last Friday. Hell, even George Stephanopoulos and the rest of the Sunday morning political shows said very little, or nothing at all about it, which tells you just how big of a failure the democratic memo truly was. If it would have contained anything substantive that discredited the FBI's abuse of the FISA court that was laid out by Nunes and the republicans, that memo would have dominated the Sunday shows and been the #1 topic of discussion on leftist blogs and in mainstream media circles both yesterday and today... but it isn't.

With few exceptions, the only things you'll find right now about the democratic memo, come from right leaning blogs and oped's written by conservative columnists... and if that doesn't shatter the illusions of those still waiving that memo around and claiming victory, nothing will.


Well done Mr. Schiff.


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It must be fun there in Magic Upside Down Backward Land.

The Schiff memo shredded Nune's bumble**** attempt to discredit the investigations and the FBI.

Pretty clear you haven't read either one, or perhaps you're afraid to. Why bother to post about what you don't understand in the first place?

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/24/17048936/democrat-rebuttal-nunes-schiff-memo
 
These billboards are in Nunes' district...

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These billboards are in Nunes' district...

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Hmmm..

The Democratic Coalition is the home of the Resistance to Donald Trump and his agenda. Launched in Spring of 2016 we are the nation's largest grassroots organization dedicated to holding the Trump administration accountable for regressive policies, hateful rhetoric and outright lies. We are engaged in campaign efforts across the country in order to elect progressive candidates and bring new leadership to government at the local and federal level.
https://www.democraticcoalition.org/

Clearly, the organization who paid for this billboard never "elected" Nunes, much less expected him to do anything for them in the first place.
 
Hmmm..

Clearly, the organization who paid for this billboard never "elected" Nunes, much less expected him to do anything for them in the first place.

Yet the billboard is 100% true.
 
LMAO... It amazes me the lies some of you have to embrace in order to justify your political agenda.

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Your entire post was a lie. Go sell that **** to a dumb trump supporter, there are plenty.
 
Hmmm..

https://www.democraticcoalition.org/

Clearly, the organization who paid for this billboard never "elected" Nunes, much less expected him to do anything for them in the first place.

Since it seems to have escaped your notice, the "We" that they're implying is the people of his district, not just those who paid for the billboard.

Weak try at diversion.
 
Five takeaways from the Schiff memo:

1. The F.B.I. used only a small part of the information provided by Mr. Steele.
2. The surveillance court knew that Mr. Steele’s clients had a political motive.
3. The Yahoo News article was not used to corroborate Mr. Steele.
4. Republican-appointed judges approved the surveillance of Mr. Page.
5. The wiretap of Mr. Page generated useful intelligence.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/...U1eFYmGaI?amp=1#click=https://t.co/CU1eFYmGaI

The only takeaways you can get from CNN Fake News are nothingburgers, and we're all sick of them.
 
The only takeaways you can get from CNN Fake News are nothingburgers, and we're all sick of them.

LOL! Nice of you to come right out and admit you haven't read either memo, you don't understand what they're about or their respective contexts, and you have no interest in either.
 
once again, 12 FISA warrants have been rejected out of 35,529. it's a rubber stamp court. the memo distraction is worth its weight in desiccated dog poop.
 
LOL! Nice of you to come right out and admit you haven't read either memo, you don't understand what they're about or their respective contexts, and you have no interest in either.

He is simply a dual posting "troll". Aussie my ass.......lol
 
Five takeaways from the Schiff memo:

1. The F.B.I. used only a small part of the information provided by Mr. Steele.

Which without, no FISA warrant would have been sought.


2. The surveillance court knew that Mr. Steele’s clients had a political motive.

You mean when they misleadingly told the court in the footnote:
"The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s campaign."​

Instead of the truth, which actually was:
"The FBI knows that the identified U.S. Person was gathering information that is being used to discredit Candidate #1’s campaign."​


3. The Yahoo News article was not used to corroborate Mr. Steele.

That was precisely what it's purpose was, as every bit of information it contained came from the dossier's author, Christopher Steele.


4. Republican-appointed judges approved the surveillance of Mr. Page.

Irrelevant.

Who appointed each judge does not change in any way the deception contained on the applications which they used to grant those approvals.


5. The wiretap of Mr. Page generated useful intelligence.

Irrelevant.

The issue is how the approval of the wire tap was obtained by the FBI and DOJ, not the information gleaned from it.

The ends do not justify the means.

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Yes, I think it's time everybody thanked Schiff-for-brains for his little memo and moved on.

The media certainly did. Quickly.
 
In a battle of memos, the first one always wins.
 
LOL! Nice of you to come right out and admit you haven't read either memo, you don't understand what they're about or their respective contexts, and you have no interest in either.

Would you read the rantings of Charles Manson or Baghdad Bob? If so, enjoy. Most of us get a whiff of it, and never try it again.
 
once again, 12 FISA warrants have been rejected out of 35,529. it's a rubber stamp court. the memo distraction is worth its weight in desiccated dog poop.
This has been corrected and yet you persist in the misinformation campaign?

FISA isn't a rubber stamp court, you are spreading misinformation knowingly.

12/35K doesn't includes:
- the countless iterations they do BEFORE the submit it, with back and forth with court guidance on what needs to change to get it to comply
- the ones they withdraw because they don't think they will be approved

Anyone can look it up under "Criticisms" on the wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court
 
Yes, I think it's time everybody thanked Schiff-for-brains for his little memo and moved on.

The media certainly did. Quickly.

In my opinion, Schiff needs to pay a price for this bogus political stunt of his, and for doing everything in his power to prevent the American people from learning about the FBI and DOJ violating the 4th amendment rights of an American citizen.

At minimum, it would be nice if the mainstream media called him out and chastised him publicly for this crap, but we all know that the mainstream media would never embarrass anyone with a "D" behind their name.... which is why they have been largely silent since he released that piece of partisan crap.

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