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Partisan Hatred

Kreton

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I think the political divide recently is higher than it has ever been. Politically in America we have gone from differences of opinions to a seemingly genuine hatred for the "other" sides. Our country is not longer United.
 
I think the political divide recently is higher than it has ever been. Politically in America we have gone from differences of opinions to a seemingly genuine hatred for the "other" sides. Our country is not longer United.

In everyday life thats not the case though.
NORMAL people get along just fine.

The nutters are freaking out and they get the most attention. Politicians cater to this nuttery because its a distraction and WE let them get away with it.
 
In everyday life thats not the case though.
NORMAL people get along just fine.

The nutters are freaking out and they get the most attention. Politicians cater to this nuttery because its a distraction and WE let them get away with it.

To a certain extent I agree. But more and more it is not the case. Read commentary in news reports, or facebook news posts ect. People are attacking each other over differences in political opinions.
 
To a certain extent I agree. But more and more it is not the case. Read commentary in news reports, or facebook news posts ect. People are attacking each other over differences in political opinions.

exactly my point, those are NOT normal people and you dont even know if those people are real.

In every day life most people are simply rational whether they agree or not. Nutters are simply on edge.
 
Well, none of this would happen if everyone would simply stop fighting, and accept that I'm right.

About everything. All the time.
 
A paper wants to sell their product. Printing we love each other letters don't do that so they pick the worst/best letters that will bring people back. And Facebook don't get me started on how that isn't a real representation of reality for people
 
A paper wants to sell their product. Printing we love each other letters don't do that so they pick the worst/best letters that will bring people back. And Facebook don't get me started on how that isn't a real representation of reality for people

Page views and subscriptions are how advertising pricing is determined. Their is no requirement that the report the truth. They can say martians have landed, and there is nothing illegal about it.
 
Well, none of this would happen if everyone would simply stop fighting, and accept that I'm right.

About everything. All the time.

No way....I'm the one that's always right about everything.
I guess we'll have to have a cage-match to determine who's correct about everything.
It's the only logical solution.
You know I'm right about this.
 
I think the political divide recently is higher than it has ever been. Politically in America we have gone from differences of opinions to a seemingly genuine hatred for the "other" sides. Our country is not longer United.

Let me write an unwanted essay in response.

The tl'dr version is as follows: aggressive cynicism started exploding under Clinton, expanded under Bush, exploded exponentially under Obama, and came to fruition in Trump.

:crack knuckles:

Diagnosis? K....

I think the political divide recently is higher than it has ever been. Politically in America we have gone from differences of opinions to a seemingly genuine hatred for the "other" sides. Our country is not longer United.

It's rather perverse. In my not at all humble opinion (and this isn't aimed at you specifically),

- Blatant cynisism started jogging towards the norm around the time Whitewater turned into a beej investigation. (Yeah, he ultimately committed perjury, but that doesn't make the investigation necessarily good/bad/etc).



- This grew under Bush, especially when it was found that there weren't any WMDs in Iraq. (They did find a few buried caches of rusted-out chem rounds, buried in the late-80s. I only mention this because I've seen it cited as evidence of "WMDs").

- Then the right reacted to people on the left doing things like parading around with bigass posters of bush with a Hitler mustache.

- On top there were other fiscally irresponsible things like a tax cut in good times only moderately affected by the dot com burst, medicare D, etc. Meanwhile pushing home purchases to those who probably shouldn't have a home or at least THAT home, which was more of a bipartisan blunder at first, accelerated. Then the mortage/finance bubbles burst.

But that was just some tension. What happened next still astounds me.
 
2007-2008.

Just about every candidate agrees that healthcare is ****ed and that it will only become more deeply so abused. Savaged by a dead sheep, as it were. The party-committed whittle it down to a man who wants to pass a one-time deducation (or was it credit? I think deduction) of $5,000/fam, $2,500 ind, for out of pocket HC costs.* Then there were Obama's vague and not entirely honest ideas.

Him? Obamacare. Socialist. I’m not sure how much that has to do with what comes next, but as we know Obama was the only president accused of all of the following:

~ 44% self-ID’d Rs in polls saying Obama was not born in the US.
~ 20% not sure

(Shamefully, half of each number for self-ID’d Ds)

- Same numbers for saying that he isn’t a Christian
- Litany of smears:

-- Socialist/Communist/Totalitarian (Glenn Beck, etc).
-- Racist against white people (alleged Wright “ties”)
-- Wants to turn America into a third world country (the above + global warming)
-- Wants to transfer US sovereignty to EU/other nations (related to the above)
-- ISIS breaking out was his fault because he followed the GWB agreement w/ Iraq and public opinion, even though nobody ever predicted that a Syrian civil conflict would produce a group intent on invading nearby countries and establishing a caliphate
-- The huge deficits at first were his fault, when he inherited the prior Fiscal Year’s TARP and didn’t change all that much of anything other than the stimulus, which was smaller than the strong majority of economists recommended.

Worst bit? The same media that claims liberal-leaning media is all biased didn’t investigate or denounce this. Right-wing media typically said “people are asking………” That slimey move where you imply by omission, and therefore – to a certain audience – you have plausible deniability of having implied the counter assertion. So, they're asking questions, but the liberal media is just dismissing smears on Obama's birth/religion/etc.

Just asking questions.




What did this contribute to? Counter-animosity.




And what is Trump, but an opportunist who smelled the near-vacuum and all that virulent animosity and counter-animosity.




We locked ourselves into a vicious cycle. Media on both ends contributed. I'm focusing on the right-side, yes, but that's because I place a bit more blame on them. If someone has access to a parallel universe, show up in my room right now and prove me wrong. I bet that if Obama hadn't been President, we wouldn't have seen this.
But you know what? It's on us. Me less than you, though.

I'm not sure entirely what to make of it. Healthcare? Stimulus? The simple fact that it's so easy to blame someone for inheriting a ****storm but credit them for inheriting good news? Outright hatred of the other side? Mass-communication and all its rabbit holes? A fundamental clash between respect and disrespect for the constitution if we are scared (aka, of Terror)?




* John McCain'''s 2008 Health Plan Is Worth Revisiting | Fortune
 
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There are things worth hating in the present state of things - cowardice and dysfunction in Congress, emasculation of government agencies, undermining of the press, debasement of the Presidency. I think this is some of what many liberals hate, and not so much people who disagree and take the other side. As for Trump himself, he’s loathsome and pathetic but altogether too weird to hate.
 
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