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Trump ratings soar.

haymarket said:
at least how popular he is in that part of Pennsylvania.
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That part of PA is as trumpian as it gets.
trump's speech to the CPAC/NRA today will be hung around the necks of all gop politicians as an albatross ...
 
KLATTU said:
translatuio- they come up with reulsts liberals don't lik e . LAFF
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In other words, as usual conservatives dont believe in facts and figures.

Are you seriously saying that 37% of Americans have a GOP affiliation? Almost all other polling companies say that GOP party affiliation is between 22 to 29ish% at best. It has been like this for decades.
 
KLATTU said:
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

any explanations for this?

Was it his brilliant idea to arm teachers?
LOL
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Here is the list of all polls dealing with President Trump's approval numbers.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Rasmussen at 50% is so far out of line with every other poll, I'd chalk it up as an outlier or skewed poll which happens from time to time. The average of the nine polls which keep track of Trump's approval is at 42.2%. Which is up from 37.3% back on 14 Dec. Trump is moving up, but is no where near 50%.
 
PeteEU said:
She did win by 3 million votes. What they could not predict was 80k votes in 3 swing states that gave those states to Trump instead of Hillary. Those 80k votes were wayyyyy within the margin of error. Even Rasmussen predicted a Hillary win, like everyone else.

Point is, Rasmussen methodology gets more and more suspect as the years go on. They only use landlines... which favours older voters, who traditionally are conservative. Young people dont have landlines (relatively speaking). To compensate for the youth, they use "online polling" which is a load of crock to be frank. It is easily manipulated and hard to control who clicks what and where. On top of all this, they are using 37% or so as the base of the GOP in their polls... that is extremely high and suspect.

So you have a polling company that uses old time landlines which favours older people aka conservatives, and on top of that they also overrepresent the GOP.. based on its own research, which is suspect already... I mean on what planet is 37% of the US GOP? Every pollster I have ever read up on, says the independents are the biggest group, followed by the Dems and then the GOP.

Hence I have issues with this polling companies methodology.
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Please for the last time enough of this popular vote silliness, when CNN had announced Trump as the winner
of the election he was ahead that instance in the popular vote tally.

Let's go to California where Clinton got all the votes she needs for a plurality:
Clinton 8,753,798
Trump 4,483,810

So Clinton won the plurality one state California by 4,270,000 votes
While Trump won the plurality in the other 49 states by over 1,500,000 votes

If you want the rest of the country to mimic California 63% minority you'll bring this constantly up,
I don't. A new push for California to exit the United States has arisen in the wake of Donald Trump
winning the presidency.

Two Democratic legislators in the state, Senate president Kevin de Leon and assembly speaker Anthony Rendon, issued a statement about
the election results: "Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because yesterday Americans expressed
their views on a pluralistic and democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the people of California,"
State Sen. Leader Kevin de León and Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon said in a joint statement, according to ABC News.
 
PeteEU said:
In other words, as usual conservatives dont believe in facts and figures.

Are you seriously saying that 37% of Americans have a GOP affiliation? Almost all other polling companies say that GOP party affiliation is between 22 to 29ish% at best. It has been like this for decades.
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Trumps RCP average is 42.2% when he whipped Mrs. Clinton his approval rating according the the Huffington
Post was 38.8 he is stronger now than he was then:
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating
 
slick said:
Please for the last time enough of this popular vote silliness, when CNN had announced Trump as the winner
of the election he was ahead that instance in the popular vote tally.

Let's go to California where Clinton got all the votes she needs for a plurality:
Clinton 8,753,798
Trump 4,483,810

So Clinton won the plurality one state California by 4,270,000 votes
While Trump won the plurality in the other 49 states by over 1,500,000 votes

If you want the rest of the country to mimic California 63% minority you'll bring this constantly up,
I don't. A new push for California to exit the United States has arisen in the wake of Donald Trump
winning the presidency.

Two Democratic legislators in the state, Senate president Kevin de Leon and assembly speaker Anthony Rendon, issued a statement about
the election results: "Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because yesterday Americans expressed
their views on a pluralistic and democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the people of California,"
State Sen. Leader Kevin de León and Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon said in a joint statement, according to ABC News.
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Uh, the people of California count. Last I checked, they are American citizens who have a right to vote.

So yes, Clinton did win the popular vote, and more Americans voted for her over Trump. Nothing you stated disputes that fact.
 
slick said:
Please for the last time enough of this popular vote silliness, when CNN had announced Trump as the winner
of the election he was ahead that instance in the popular vote tally.

Let's go to California where Clinton got all the votes she needs for a plurality:
Clinton 8,753,798
Trump 4,483,810

So Clinton won the plurality one state California by 4,270,000 votes
While Trump won the plurality in the other 49 states by over 1,500,000 votes

If you want the rest of the country to mimic California 63% minority you'll bring this constantly up,
I don't. A new push for California to exit the United States has arisen in the wake of Donald Trump
winning the presidency.

Two Democratic legislators in the state, Senate president Kevin de Leon and assembly speaker Anthony Rendon, issued a statement about
the election results: "Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because yesterday Americans expressed
their views on a pluralistic and democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the people of California,"
State Sen. Leader Kevin de León and Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon said in a joint statement, according to ABC News.
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Yes yes we know, American conservatives dont understand nor like democracy.
 
Puigb said:
Uh, the people of California count. Last I checked, they are American citizens who have a right to vote.
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Not really.......the southern part is heavily Mexican dominated, not real American votes, but votes instead against American interests and FOR Mexican interests.
 
Vox said:
Not really.......the southern part is heavily Mexican dominated, not real American votes, but votes instead against American interests and FOR Mexican interests.
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not real American votes like this, eh?

White-Nationalist-Rally-Charlottesville.jpg
 
PeteEU said:
Yes yes we know, American conservatives dont understand nor like democracy.
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California in the election of 1980 before the results of the Immigration
Act of 1965 began to bare fruit for the Democrats

Republican votes 4,524,858
Democratic votes 3,083,661

40% Latino
16% Asain
6% black

1970 demographics
Whites 15 million
Latinos 2.5 million
Asians 1 million
Blacks 2 million

2017 demographics
Whites 15 million
Latinos 16 million
Asians 8 million
Blacks 3 million

The Democrats received 5 million more votes in in 2016 than they did in 1980
while the Republicans received the same amount no increase since 1980, I wonder
why. In bizarroville California where people with driver liscenses become voter
eligible could it be that of those 5 million more DEM votes over 1/2 may be from the
huge waves of illegals since 1980 who are sheltered in this odd sanctuary state.

The worst case scenario would be that the liberals of all stripes move from California when the crap gets bad and move on to infect other
communities and states with their (already) failed ideals, like locusts. After all California is no longer the paradise over the mountains
like it became for Americans in the 40's, 50's & even 60's but it's a far better place for Mexicans than Mexico & far better place for Asians
than China, the Phillipines & Vietnamese, Laotians & Cambodians than is Asia.
 
slick said:
California in the election of 1980 before the results of the Immigration
Act of 1965 began to bare fruit for the Democrats

Republican votes 4,524,858
Democratic votes 3,083,661

40% Latino
16% Asain
6% black

1970 demographics
Whites 15 million
Latinos 2.5 million
Asians 1 million
Blacks 2 million

2017 demographics
Whites 15 million
Latinos 16 million
Asians 8 million
Blacks 3 million

The Democrats received 5 million more votes in in 2016 than they did in 1980
while the Republicans received the same amount no increase since 1980, I wonder
why. In bizarroville California where people with driver liscenses become voter
eligible could it be that of those 5 million more DEM votes over 1/2 may be from the
huge waves of illegals since 1980 who are sheltered in this odd sanctuary state.

The worst case scenario would be that the liberals of all stripes move from California when the crap gets bad and move on to infect other
communities and states with their (already) failed ideals, like locusts. After all California is no longer the paradise over the mountains
like it became for Americans in the 40's, 50's & even 60's but it's a far better place for Mexicans than Mexico & far better place for Asians
than China, the Phillipines & Vietnamese, Laotians & Cambodians than is Asia.
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Posts like this are why the GOP will never win more than 30% of the minority vote, and I'm not just talking about hispanics.

Good luck in the future, as you better hope that the GOP manages to rile up enough white voters to keep them in power. In 2016, Trump received 57% of the white vote, which was less than Romney in 2012 (and this is despite Trump running the most racist campaign since George Wallace). Not all white voters, especially the younger generation, are prone to falling for the GOP's race baiting tripe. As more moderate leaning whites leave the GOP to either become independents or Democrats, that leaves the GOP base getting smaller and smaller by the minute.
 
538 has Trump trending down the last 10 days, I am going to go with that.
 
Puigb said:
Posts like this are why the GOP will never win more than 30% of the minority vote, and I'm not just talking about hispanics.

Good luck in the future, as you better hope that the GOP manages to rile up enough white voters to keep them in power. In 2016, Trump received 57% of the white vote, which was less than Romney in 2012 (and this is despite Trump running the most racist campaign since George Wallace). Not all white voters, especially the younger generation, are prone to falling for the GOP's race baiting tripe. As more moderate leaning whites leave the GOP to either become independents or Democrats, that leaves the GOP base getting smaller and smaller by the minute.
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In the second decade of the 20th century, Theodore Roosevelt pondering on the state of the nation proclaimed.
'The one absolute certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation
at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationaliities' does that not ring a bell? Isn't that the state
of affairs the USA sees itself in now? No longer is the USA one nation & one people.
As I stated before our new president simply does not see how this country is enriched by bringing in scores of people from
failed 3rd world states. Like Roosevelt he's not interested in the USA becoming more tangled up by 'SQUABBLING NATIONALITIES'
than it already has become & that should make sense to everyone!
 
Quote...

" Was it his brilliant idea to arm teachers? "
Yes...hopefully more to come.
 
Puigb said:
Mexican is not a race, so you could be wrong.
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Of course it's not a race......it's a nationality and totally different from an American.......and we know a damned Mexican when we see one, don't we?

:D
 
Puigb said:
Posts like this are why the GOP will never win more than 30% of the minority vote, and I'm not just talking about hispanics.

Good luck in the future, as you better hope that the GOP manages to rile up enough white voters to keep them in power. In 2016, Trump received 57% of the white vote, which was less than Romney in 2012 (and this is despite Trump running the most racist campaign since George Wallace). Not all white voters, especially the younger generation, are prone to falling for the GOP's race baiting tripe. As more moderate leaning whites leave the GOP to either become independents or Democrats, that leaves the GOP base getting smaller and smaller by the minute.
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Send her to jail, send them home and build the wall.

Problemo solved.

:D
 
slick said:
In the second decade of the 20th century, Theodore Roosevelt pondering on the state of the nation proclaimed.
'The one absolute certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation
at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationaliities' does that not ring a bell? Isn't that the state
of affairs the USA sees itself in now? No longer is the USA one nation & one people.
As I stated before our new president simply does not see how this country is enriched by bringing in scores of people from
failed 3rd world states. Like Roosevelt he's not interested in the USA becoming more tangled up by 'SQUABBLING NATIONALITIES'
than it already has become & that should make sense to everyone!
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Translation: The only way I believe Republicans can win elections is by importing more white people to vote for them. I guess that's why Trump wants people from Norway to come here. Only problem is, white Europeans are generally far more to the left than white Americans. Not sure why you guys would want white Europeans to be the only ones to immigrate here, as they would give the Dems complete control of the government for many many years.
 
Trump's approval will never top 50%- wait and see.

It may not sink to zero,but it's not going through the roof either
 
KLATTU said:
Oh they did ,did they ? Says who? some liberal media source?
to 44 percent.

If Rasmussen Reports is a "Republican-leaning pollster," then what exactly does that make everyone else? While it's true that they consistently find more favorable approval ratings for the president than other polls, including Gallup, it's also true that they have established a more accurate track record of gauging his true level of support among the electorate.

Gallup tracks adults, not the voting electorate.
Let's take a look at the top 10 pollsters aggregated by Real Clear Politics (RCP) in 2016 regarding the national popular vote, using a measure of accuracy proposed by Martin, Traugott and Kennedy and used by the American Association for Public Opinion Research to rank accuracy.


Pollster
Clinton
Trump
Odds Ratio
Accuracy
Rasmussen Reports 45% 43% 1.00 0.00
UPI/CVOTER 49% 46% 1.02 0.02
CBS/New York Times 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
Politico/Morning Consult 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
McClatchy/Marist 44% 43% 0.98 -0.02
Bloomberg/Selzer 44% 41% 1.03 0.03
Reuters/Ipsos 42% 39% 1.03 0.03
Fox News 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Boston Herald/Franklin Pierce/RKM 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Why aren't those who performed more poorly than Rasmussen referred to as "Democrat-leaning pollsters"? How about "less accurate-leaning pollsters"?

After its monumental failure in 2016, we had high hopes the polling industry would finally engage in a long overdue exercise in introspection. The 2016 presidential election wasn’t the first major polling blunder in U.S. politics, but it does appear to be the one in which media pollsters lost the public trust.

A meager 26% say they trust most political polls, while 55% do not."

Results Matter: If Rasmussen Is ?Republican-Leaning,? What Does That Make Everyone Else? - Rasmussen Reports®


Can you answer the question in bold?
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Are they really "less accurate"? Those polls looked an awful lot like the actual popular vote totals, which I'm sure you need no reminder, Trump lost by more than 3,000,000.
 
Puigb said:
Translation: The only way I believe Republicans can win elections is by importing more white people to vote for them. I guess that's why Trump wants people from Norway to come here. Only problem is, white Europeans are generally far more to the left than white Americans. Not sure why you guys would want white Europeans to be the only ones to immigrate here, as they would give the Dems complete control of the government for many many years.
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I think Norway has the highest standard of living in the world or close to it, unlikely they would have any desire to immigrate.
South Africa is for White Western countries the canary in the racial coal mine. It might be wise to sponsor all the whites in Africa to come to the U.S.
 
Puigb said:
Ramussen had Obama with an approval rating over 60% towards the end of his presidency...

I guess Trump sucks so bad he even has a lower approval rating in a Republican biased poll compared to the last Democrat president. Funny how that is, eh?
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OF course. Everybody was thrilled to see him go.

LAFF
 
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