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Shooting Survivors’ Feelings Don’t Legitimize Their Ideas About Politics

trouble13 said:
The difference imo is between private and public rules. I can understand where a private buisiness can restrict firearms on their property but i dont think its constitutionally sound for the gov to restrict them from their property. That is gov infringement.
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And there is about 230 years or so of precedent that the 2A, like the other rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, is not absolute.

Seriously, the idea that it's unconstitutional for the government to prohibit me from carrying a Glock and an AR-15 into the Oval Office for a meeting with POTUS is just absurd.
 
JasperL said:
And there is about 230 years or so of precedent that the 2A, like the other rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, is not absolute.

Seriously, the idea that it's unconstitutional for the government to prohibit me from carrying a Glock and an AR-15 into the Oval Office for a meeting with POTUS is just absurd.
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True that could be absurd. Sometimes i forget how everything said around here needs to be qualified. I meant places that allow public access like for instance the DMV. Imo making places like that is not constitutional

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ReverendHellh0und said:
What is pathetic is your blatant lies. quote just one. I'll donate 100 bucks to a charity of your choice. You can't lie about people and be taken seriously.

You need to show some integrity, you are embarrassing yourself with this garbage.
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:lamo "Integrity"? What do you and your ilk know about that? Integrity....Honesty........Patriotism.......Empathy.....are all foreign (or grossly perverted) concepts to modern-day GOP'ers (i.e. Trumpian conservatives) like you.

What you do well is pretty clear: Dodge, Deflect, Dissemble.............Dodge, Deflect, Dissemble..............Dodge, Deflect, Dissemble..........You're afraid to debate your own political arguments in your own thread. That's hilarious. :lamo

Rewind...Press Play.

Here, I'll re-quote myself for you, "Rev":

"Your own stated arguments (in this thread) are that:
----(1) the CONSTITUTION "disagrees" with MY stated argument that 2A rights are NOT unrestricted and are NOT "absolute"........and

----(2) that GUN CONTROL (from federal/universal background checks........to assault weapons bans..........to limitations on magazine sizes........to mandatory waiting periods...........to regulation of private sales..........etc) is not widely supported by the American public (including a MAJORITY of NRA members and GOP'ers, alike).

Why are you so afraid to defend your own STATED political views..........on this POLITICAL debate board? "

When challenged to DEFEND your own stated arguments (above)........you cower.....you deflect.....you dissemble.

You're done.

As you can see, more and more people are challenging you and recognizing that you are just another empty-headed right winger, masquerading as something more.

How Pathetic you are. :roll:
 
ultmd said:
:lamo "Integrity"? What do you and your ilk know about that? Integrity....Honesty........Patriotism.......Empathy.....are all foreign (or grossly perverted) concepts to modern-day GOP'ers (i.e. Trumpian conservatives) like you.

What you do well is pretty clear: Dodge, Deflect, Dissemble.............Dodge, Deflect, Dissemble..............Dodge, Deflect, Dissemble..........You're afraid to debate your own political arguments in your own thread. That's hilarious. :lamo

Rewind...Press Play.

Here, I'll re-quote myself for you, "Rev":

"Your own stated arguments (in this thread) are that:
----(1) the CONSTITUTION "disagrees" with MY stated argument that 2A rights are NOT unrestricted and are NOT "absolute"........and

----(2) that GUN CONTROL (from federal/universal background checks........to assault weapons bans..........to limitations on magazine sizes........to mandatory waiting periods...........to regulation of private sales..........etc) is not widely supported by the American public (including a MAJORITY of NRA members and GOP'ers, alike).

Why are you so afraid to defend your own STATED political views..........on this POLITICAL debate board? "

When challenged to DEFEND your own stated arguments (above)........you cower.....you deflect.....you dissemble.

You're done.

As you can see, more and more people are challenging you and recognizing that you are just another empty-headed right winger, masquerading as something more.

How Pathetic you are. :roll:
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nope, not until you apologize or post one racist, white nationalist, post I have made.


You can bloviate and mouth foam all you want, until you either back that up or apologize we have nothing to talk about.
 
trouble13 said:
True that could be absurd. Sometimes i forget how everything said around here needs to be qualified. I meant places that allow public access like for instance the DMV. Imo making places like that is not constitutional
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But that would include court rooms, Congress, legislative buildings, etc. and there are lots of good reasons to ban guns from many public buildings. Heck, take a school. If you argue it's a public building, I should be able to bring an arsenal into a Christmas play at that school. For good reasons, the school should prevent that.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
nope, not until you apologize or post one racist, white nationalist, post I have made.


You can bloviate and mouth foam all you want, until you either back that up or apologize we have nothing to talk about.
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:lamo....do you have your arms folded and lips poked out while you're doing all that pouting?

I think a lot of people who have watched you dismissively refer to them as "dependent class socialists", among other slights, might find it a bit pathetic of you to whine about being called out for views in line with those of white nationalism.

You need to toughen up, "Rev". Either that, or give the self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectualism a rest and stop running away every time someone challenges you to defend your arguments on this board.

So....sorry, but the terms will remain as I've already stated:

1. Either defend your stated belief that the Constitutional 2nd Amendment is absolute.........or admit that you were wrong.
2. Either defend your stated belief that the public (including most NRA members) does NOT overwhelmingly support INCREASED gun control in this country...........or admit that you were wrong.

Don't worry, no one really cares about your white nationalist leanings. They don't even know you. They only care about whether or not you can defend your views on this board. And if you can't, people will lose respect for your arguments.

Now, time to step up......man up, and defend your OWN arguments, in your OWN thread, Mr. "Rev".
 
ultmd said:
:lamo....do you have your arms folded and lips poked out while you're doing all that pouting?

I think a lot of people who have watched you dismissively refer to them as "dependent class socialists", among other slights, might find it a bit pathetic of you to whine about being called out for views in line with those of white nationalism.

You need to toughen up, "Rev". Either that, or give the self-aggrandizing, pseudo-intellectualism a rest and stop running away every time someone challenges you to defend your arguments on this board.

So....sorry, but the terms will remain as I've already stated:

1. Either defend your stated belief that the Constitutional 2nd Amendment is absolute.........or admit that you were wrong.
2. Either defend your stated belief that the public (including most NRA members) does NOT overwhelmingly support INCREASED gun control in this country...........or admit that you were wrong.

Don't worry, no one really cares about your white nationalist leanings. They don't even know you. They only care about whether or not you can defend your views on this board. And if you can't, people will lose respect for your arguments.

Now, time to step up......man up, and defend your OWN arguments, in your OWN thread, Mr. "Rev".
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nope, you need to quote me or apologize.


nope, not until you apologize or post one racist, white nationalist, post I have made.


You can bloviate and mouth foam all you want, until you either back that up or apologize we have nothing to talk about.
 
JasperL said:
But that would include court rooms, Congress, legislative buildings, etc. and there are lots of good reasons to ban guns from many public buildings. Heck, take a school. If you argue it's a public building, I should be able to bring an arsenal into a Christmas play at that school. For good reasons, the school should prevent that.
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Good reason or not it is the gov restricting people's constitutional rights.

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trouble13 said:
Good reason or not it is the gov restricting people's constitutional rights.
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Which they do every day, with the blessing of the courts, and have for 230 years or so. I have a right to free speech, but not to slander you or to make false advertising claims or to threaten you. I have a right to practice my religion, but not to engage in human sacrifice. There are exceptions to warrants and searches. Etc.
 
JasperL said:
Which they do every day, with the blessing of the courts, and have for 230 years or so. I have a right to free speech, but not to slander you or to make false advertising claims or to threaten you. I have a right to practice my religion, but not to engage in human sacrifice. There are exceptions to warrants and searches. Etc.
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Those exceptions are based on actions that cause harm to others. Carrying a firearm does not harm anyone.

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ReverendHellh0und said:
nope, you need to quote me or apologize.


nope, not until you apologize or post one racist, white nationalist, post I have made.


You can bloviate and mouth foam all you want, until you either back that up or apologize we have nothing to talk about.
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LOL, just as predicted. Another tough-talking, weak-minded pseudo-intellectual right winger.......exposed. You can't even defend your own arguments....in your own thread. :lamo

If you were a dog, you'd be rolling over to show your belly right now.

So you can pout, weasel and squirm all you wish.....I think we both know you're done.

One can only now assume that you are all that you appear to be on this anonymous message board.

So stop whimpering and whining about what people think of you, from now on, ok? You're not being victimized. You're just being accurately recognized, "Rev".
 
ultmd said:
LOL, just as predicted. Another tough-talking, weak-minded pseudo-intellectual right winger.......exposed. You can't even defend your own arguments....in your own thread. :lamo

If you were a dog, you'd be rolling over to show your belly right now.

So you can pout, weasel and squirm all you wish.....I think we both know you're done.

One can only now assume that you are all that you appear to be on this anonymous message board.

So stop whimpering and whining about what people think of you, from now on, ok? You're not being victimized. You're just being accurately recognized, "Rev".
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nope, you need to quote me or apologize.


nope, not until you apologize or post one racist, white nationalist, post I have made.


You can bloviate and mouth foam all you want, until you either back that up or apologize we have nothing to talk about.





I'm not even reading your posts at this point.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I'm not even reading your posts at this point.
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Oh, really?

Roll over, doggy Rev.! Roll over!! :lamo

"Rev", you can't keep pouting and demanding apologies.........and claim at the same time that you aren't reading anything. Not at the same time, since the former is refuted by the latter (and vice versa). Even a moron....a REAL moron (as in, IQ range between 50-75) wouldn't make that mistake. Only someone who is engaged in an ongoing, running, evolving LIE......could contradict himself as blatantly that.

So.....of COURSE you're reading my remarks, Rev.

You're just COMPLETELY unable to rebut them. And THAT is why you are running from them.

You are lot of things..........about which a lot of people would rightly feel at least a bit of shame............but "stupid" (i.e. a moron, an imbecile, or just an idiot), you're not.

But I do thank you for the amusement you've provided to those who are paying attention to this thread. It's more than a little bit amusing to see the big, bad "RevHellhOund" of DP being reduced to the point of self-humiliation, for a lot of people, I'm sure.

I'll try to remember this thread for future reference. LOL
 
ultmd said:
Oh, really?

Roll over, doggy Rev.! Roll over!! :lamo

"Rev", you can't keep pouting and demanding apologies.........and claim at the same time that you aren't reading anything....at the same time. Even a moron....a REAL moron (as in, IQ range between 50-75) wouldn't make that mistake. Only someone who is engaged in an ongoing, running, evolving LIE......could contradict himself as blatantly that.

So.....of COURSE you're reading my remarks, Rev.

You're just COMPLETELY unable to rebut them. And THAT is why you are running from them.

You are lot of things..........about which a lot of people would rightly feel at least a bit of shame............but "stupid" (i.e. a moron, an imbecile, or just an idiot), you're not.

But I do thank you for the amusement you've provided to those who are paying attention to this thread. It's more than a little bit amusing to see the big, bad "RevHellhOund" of DP being reduced to the point of self-humiliation, for a lot of people, I'm sure.

I'll try to remember this thread for future reference. LOL
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Still waiting for you to quote me making a racist statement.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Still waiting for you to quote me making a racist statement.
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:lamo:lamo

The big, tough, pseudo-intellectual "Rev" shows his belly.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
You claimed that I made racist statements. please quote them or go pound sand.
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No, YOU said that. I said your views are very much in line with white nationalism.

More importantly, I also proved that your arguments about the 2A and public support for gun control are little more than empty-headed, baseless, NRA/right wing propaganda/talking-points. And THAT is why are are so afraid to address the subject of YOUR OWN THREAD.

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Roll Over, puppy "Rev"!!.............ROLL OVER!!!! :lamo
 
ultmd said:
No, YOU said that. I said your views are very much in line with white nationalism.

More importantly, I also proved that your arguments about the 2A and public support for gun control are little more than empty-headed, baseless, NRA/right wing propaganda/talking-points. And THAT is why are are so afraid to address the subject of YOUR OWN THREAD.

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Roll Over, puppy "Rev"!!.............ROLL OVER!!!! :lamo
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Stop lying.


Which of my views are in line with white nationalism. please quote or go bother someone else.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Stop lying.


Which of my views are in line with white nationalism. please quote or go bother someone else.
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Calling me a liar only makes you one, "Rev".

Stop running and deflecting.

Defend YOUR OWN arguments about the Constitutionality of gun-control.......and about public support for gun control..........and I'll leave you alone.

Heck, if you do it nicely, I might even help you roll-over off your back and stand upright again.
 
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ultmd said:
Calling me a liar only makes you one, "Rev".

Stop running and deflecting.

Defend YOUR OWN arguments about the Constitutionality of gun-control.......and about public support for gun control..........and I'll leave you alone.

Heck, if you do it nicely, I might even help you roll-over off your back and stand upright again.
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Stop lying.


Which of my views are in line with white nationalism. please quote or go bother someone else.
 
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Stop your sniveling and grow a pair.

Defend your OWN arguments.....in your OWN thread.

No one cares about your white nationalist leanings. It's pathetic the way people of your ilk fall back on that "white victimhood" excuse whenever you can't defend your political views intelligently.
 
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