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If guns make everyone so unsafe....

DarkWizard12

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If guns are so bad in the US, then why don't democrats lead the charge to disarm themselves first? Democrats could go to inner cities, african american communities, reform jewish communities, immigration organizations, all the various groups that vote democrat and vote for gun control, and tell all their supporters to give up arms, for the sake of making their communities, and therefore the US, a safer place to live? I would respect them if they did this, and it would be consistent, I think.
 
I think perhaps your premise might be off.

It isn't about gun control, it's about people control, as history has proven, an unarmed people are far more easily controlled (think lacking of liberty and self determination).
 
Most heavily democratic towns already do have strict gun control laws.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Most heavily democratic towns already do have strict gun control laws.
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Yeah, and those cities are ****holes. Hell, I'd be packing too around all those kooker leftists. :)
 
eohrnberger said:
I think perhaps your premise might be off.

It isn't about gun control, it's about people control, as history has proven, an unarmed people are far more easily controlled (think lacking of liberty and self determination).
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I can't remember the name of the country, but there is a country which is a dictatorship and where guns are legal. There also plenty of free countries which have strict gun control laws. There is no correlation between gun laws and free people. Heck, in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, every male was allowed to own a gun. How did that work out for them?
 
DarkWizard12 said:
If guns are so bad in the US, then why don't democrats lead the charge to disarm themselves first? Democrats could go to inner cities, african american communities, reform jewish communities, immigration organizations, all the various groups that vote democrat and vote for gun control, and tell all their supporters to give up arms, for the sake of making their communities, and therefore the US, a safer place to live? I would respect them if they did this, and it would be consistent, I think.
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Is more of the ("do as we say, not a we do") brand of politics they like to employ.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
If guns are so bad in the US, then why don't democrats lead the charge to disarm themselves first? Democrats could go to inner cities, african american communities, reform jewish communities, immigration organizations, all the various groups that vote democrat and vote for gun control, and tell all their supporters to give up arms, for the sake of making their communities, and therefore the US, a safer place to live? I would respect them if they did this, and it would be consistent, I think.
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I would say 99% of Democrats are against banning ALL guns...But at the same time they are more inclined to banning semi-automatics and having stricter laws and vetting system in obtaining a gun......In Israel the citizens there are only limited to hand guns....This would be a step in the right direction here in the U.S....
 
Aristaeus said:
I can't remember the name of the country, but there is a country which is a dictatorship and where guns are legal. There also plenty of free countries which have strict gun control laws. There is no correlation between gun laws and free people. Heck, in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, every male was allowed to own a gun. How did that work out for them?
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Thinking more of Stalin's Russia, Mao's China, and Hitler's Germany.

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DarkWizard12 said:
If guns are so bad in the US, then why don't democrats lead the charge to disarm themselves first? Democrats could go to inner cities, african american communities, reform jewish communities, immigration organizations, all the various groups that vote democrat and vote for gun control, and tell all their supporters to give up arms, for the sake of making their communities, and therefore the US, a safer place to live? I would respect them if they did this, and it would be consistent, I think.
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I think because you are confusing democratic supporters with criminals. The people out there committing the majority of violent crimes are not exactly political. Yeah, they'll probably tell you they hate Donald Trump but they couldn't hold any sort of actual political discussion with you. I live in the inner city and telling people to give up their guns is not the answer.

The democratic leaders in my city do try and stop the violence by solving the actual problems and working to get things like after school and mentoring programs but guess who tries to stop any funding for those?
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Most heavily democratic towns already do have strict gun control laws.
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But those pesky criminals just won’t follow the law. Maybe if some liberals would go explain it to the criminals then they will probably follow the laws then.🤪



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Aristaeus said:
I can't remember the name of the country, but there is a country which is a dictatorship and where guns are legal. There also plenty of free countries which have strict gun control laws. There is no correlation between gun laws and free people. Heck, in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, every male was allowed to own a gun. How did that work out for them?
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You're quite right. Having guns has nothing to do with being free. They make absolutely no difference. What holds the United States (and all Western Democracies) together is the rule of law, not civilian guns. What's more, if all civilian guns disappeared, very little would change except for hunting results. Crime is not held at bay by civilian guns but by thousands of other things, including - but not limited to - locks, doors, windows, dogs, security lights, cops, roads, lights, signs, alarms, cell phones, neighbors, and etc., times ten thousand. Guns are just a very tiny part of the picture.
 
Rob Larrikin said:
You're quite right. Having guns has nothing to do with being free. They make absolutely no difference. What holds the United States (and all Western Democracies) together is the rule of law, not civilian guns. What's more, if all civilian guns disappeared, very little would change except for hunting results. Crime is not held at bay by civilian guns but by thousands of other things, including - but not limited to - locks, doors, windows, dogs, security lights, cops, roads, lights, signs, alarms, cell phones, neighbors, and etc., times ten thousand. Guns are just a very tiny part of the picture.
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If civilian guns disappeared, what would certainly change is the number of school shootings.
 
Aristaeus said:
If civilian guns disappeared, what would certainly change is the number of school shootings.
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True, that would change, but since there is very little of that my statement remains true: "If all civilian guns disappeared, very little would change except for hunting results."

A lot of gun enthusiasts have inherited the idea from their fathers, grandfathers, great grandfathers and so on, that civilian guns are essential to survival. That was true centuries ago, when bears, wolves, American Indians and outlaws were a danger, but nowadays civilian guns are not essential to our survival at all. It's a silly myth.
 
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