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The Memo for Dummies

roughdraft274 said:
Yep, that guy. She killed him, and the dozens of others.
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I would have thought killing Vince Foster would have worn her out. Clearly I was wrong.

Maybe next week Judge Pirro will lurk around the grounds of her home in NY to see if she can locate the bodies.

Rumor has it Hillary also killed Jimmy Hoffa.
 
roughdraft274 said:
In the interest of 100% accuracy, Fusion GPS was paid by both. But they didn't hire Steele until it was the DNC paying. So the dossier was paid for by the DNC alone basically.

But the dossier isn't some political hit piece. It was created by a former intelligence officer of a close ally, who specialized in russian counter intelligence. This wasn't some guy who's past was in tabloids or gossip rags. Along with that, by all accounts he was paid to do this research without being told what he needed to find nor who was paying him. He apparently did a very good job since nothing has been disproved, it contains facts that proved Trump officials were lying about Russian contacts, it corroborated facts discovered by the FBI etc. To say that it's basically gossip as republicans are trying to do is just silliness.
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What do you mean "nothing has been disproved"? Steele had Trump attorney Michael Cohen meeting in Prague with a Kremlin representative in August of 2016. While it seems that someone by the name of Michael Cohen did have such a meeting it wasn't the Michael Cohen that was Trump's attorney. - https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/michael-cohen-russia-letter-congress/index.html
 
Lutherf said:
What do you mean "nothing has been disproved"? Steele had Trump attorney Michael Cohen meeting in Prague with a Kremlin representative in August of 2016. While it seems that someone by the name of Michael Cohen did have such a meeting it wasn't the Michael Cohen that was Trump's attorney. - https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/michael-cohen-russia-letter-congress/index.html
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If that 1 detail is disproved then you have found exactly 1 thing that is disproven. Amongst the numerous things that were proven right.

But your article you cite doesn't disprove the allegation. It's just a denial. Much like Carter Page denied his meetings, but now admits. But I can't really list all of the Trump surrogate lies, cause there are only 24 hours in a day.
 
tres borrachos said:
I would have thought killing Vince Foster would have worn her out. Clearly I was wrong.

Maybe next week Judge Pirro will lurk around the grounds of her home in NY to see if she can locate the bodies.

Rumor has it Hillary also killed Jimmy Hoffa.
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Maybe Jeannine Pirro was on to something looking in the woods for Hillary. Hillary was out there burying bodies ;)
 
roughdraft274 said:
If that 1 detail is disproved then you have found exactly 1 thing that is disproven. Amongst the numerous things that were proven right.

But your article you cite doesn't disprove the allegation. It's just a denial. Much like Carter Page denied his meetings, but now admits. But I can't really list all of the Trump surrogate lies, cause there are only 24 hours in a day.
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Yeah, it's a denial. Of course the denial is backed up by Cohen's passport and confirmation from USC that he was on campus at the time of the meeting. I suppose the passport and USC records could have all been doctored by the Russians so maybe you're right.:doh
 
Lutherf said:
Yeah, it's a denial. Of course the denial is backed up by Cohen's passport and confirmation from USC that he was on campus at the time of the meeting. I suppose the passport and USC records could have all been doctored by the Russians so maybe you're right.:doh
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The dossier gives a two month window that the meeting was in. Him visiting USC for a week doesn't cover that entire time period. His passport proves nothing also because he could have 2 passports or could get it stamped in Italy and travel to Prague by road without ever getting the passport stamped etc. etc. I will admit that it seems that he didn't attend this meeting, at least not in the way mentioned in the dossier. But the dossier does have a footnote on this exact part saying that this source claimed he wasn't positive of the date and location because even though this source was a Kremlin insider, there were significant "internal security barriers" being put in place as this whole deal progressed. But it's not disproven quite yet. With that said, I still think it's very telling that so much more has been found to be true than this one thing that seems questionable. But it is very convenient that this guy has a stamp to Italy where he could travel to Prague without anyone finding out near the same time that the dossier has him meeting with Russians.
 
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roughdraft274 said:
The dossier gives a two month window that the meeting was in. Him visiting USC for a week doesn't cover that entire time period. His passport proves nothing also because he could have 2 passports or could get it stamped in Italy and travel to Prague by road without ever getting the passport stamped etc. etc. I will admit that it seems that he didn't attend this meeting, at least not in the way mentioned in the dossier. But the dossier does have a footnote on this exact part saying that this source claimed he wasn't positive of the date and location because even though this source was a Kremlin insider, there were significant "internal security barriers" being put in place as this whole deal progressed. But it's not disproven quite yet. With that said, I still think it's very telling that so much more has been found to be true than this one thing that seems questionable. But it is very convenient that this guy has a stamp to Italy where he could travel to Prague without anyone finding out near the same time that the dossier has him meeting with Russians.
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That's incorrect. Here's a link to the dossier - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html
The section involving Cohen is on page 18 and SPECIFICALLY cites August of 2016 as the time of the meeting between Cohen and a Kremlin official.

Furthermore, of Cohen had two US passports that would be illegal. Also, if he crossed a European border without checking in with the pertinent authorities he would have broken the laws of that or those countries. Of course none of that is really relevant because he was in California in August of 2016.
 
Lutherf said:
That's incorrect. Here's a link to the dossier - https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html
The section involving Cohen is on page 18 and SPECIFICALLY cites August of 2016 as the time of the meeting between Cohen and a Kremlin official.

Furthermore, of Cohen had two US passports that would be illegal. Also, if he crossed a European border without checking in with the pertinent authorities he would have broken the laws of that or those countries. Of course none of that is really relevant because he was in California in August of 2016.
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Look at page 33 of the dossier. It says clearly that the source of exact dates.

2 passports is not illegal. Period.
Advantages of Traveling With Multiple Passports - The New York Times

Some EU countries allow border crossing without checking passports etc.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/anthonycor...passport-heres?utm_term=.mb5gD5Y2P#.sboJ956YP
The stamps indicate he traveled abroad at least four times in 2016: twice to London, once to St. Maarten, and once to Italy in July. The Italian trip is the most intriguing, because it places Cohen in what’s known as the Schengen Area: a group of 26 European countries, including the Czech Republic, that allows visitors to travel freely among them without getting any additional passport stamps.
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LowDown said:
Read the whole thing: https://ricochet.com/492444/the-memo-for-dummies/
So this is about corruption of the FBI by politics. It's not about Mueller or Trump or anybody else.
Without the Steele Dossier and its misrepresentation to the FISA court by the FBI there would be no investigation of Trump's campaign, no allegations of collusion. The Democrat's whole Russia narrative attacking Trump is based totally and completely on criminal fraud and lies.
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speaking of dummies, you should read the whole memo. The investigation into trump started because of Papadopoulos. Nunes tells you that in his memo.

The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016

The investigation into page started October 2016 after he left the trump campaign. See how once again you cant get the simple facts right. So LD, you have a chance to be the first conservative to choose integrity over narrative and apologize to the board for the falsehoods you posted.
 
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