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We have no choice but to dissolve the FBI

DarkWizard12

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With this memo release, it is clear that FBI is, and has only ever been, a political tool. It does not enforce laws, but unconstitutionally punishes those who do not acquisce to all its demands. It is a political tool that is independent of the federal government, and as such should be eliminated from the budget, with its duties and responsibilities delegated to wide collection of smaller and less-influential instititutions.

All parties and individuals seeking foreign interference in elections should also be punished in all future elections. If it is shown that a campaign bribes a foreign agency for opp research, they should be disqualified from seeking office. Congress and the majority should come down hard on all parties and individuals involved. Everyone I know has completely lost faith in our DOJ, for a myriad of reasons that have collected up to this point. I suggest, beyond just the dissolution of the FBI, that the DOJ also be taken away from the authority of the executive, and given completely to congress. Decisions usually made by the director and AG should be decided by a committee of mixed partisanship to ever prevent this from happening again.
 
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J.edger Hoover is rolling in his grave.

Republicans are attacking the institution that has been always dominants by republican members
 
So, we need to dissolve what has been an institution dominated by Republicans, because officials whom are registered Republicans signed off on warrant requests/renewals of Republicans presidential campaign members, that were then authorized by George Bush appointed judges on the courts, which makes the FBI/DOJ biased against Republicans?

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Zero reason why clinton wasn't arrested when they found enough evidence of her mishandling classified emails. All of us would have been locked up for this.

Him not wanting to release potentially more damning evidence that the DNC is extremely corrupt could just be more of the same. But as I said, I don't have his explanation and it's just as possible that he feels this is important info into the active investigation.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
With this memo release, it is clear that FBI is, and has only ever been, a political tool. It does not enforce laws, but unconstitutionally punishes those who do not acquisce to all its demands. It is a political tool that is independent of the federal government, and as such should be eliminated from the budget, with its duties and responsibilities delegated to wide collection of smaller and less-influential instititutions.

All parties and individuals seeking foreign interference in elections should also be punished in all future elections. If it is shown that a campaign bribes a foreign agency for opp research, they should be disqualified from seeking office. Congress and the majority should come down hard on all parties and individuals involved. Everyone I know has completely lost faith in our DOJ, for a myriad of reasons that have collected up to this point. I suggest, beyond just the dissolution of the FBI, that the DOJ also be taken away from the authority of the executive, and given completely to congress. Decisions usually made by the director and AG should be decided by a committee of mixed partisanship to ever prevent this from happening again.
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Mr Putin is that you ?
 
Professor2004 said:
Zero reason why clinton wasn't arrested when they found enough evidence of her mishandling classified emails. All of us would have been locked up for this.
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But the FBI's unfairness to Clinton in 2016 is why Trump had to fire Comey! ;)

Wait, are we not using that story anymore?
 
DarkWizard12 said:
With this memo release, it is clear that FBI is, and has only ever been, a political tool. It does not enforce laws, but unconstitutionally punishes those who do not acquisce to all its demands. It is a political tool that is independent of the federal government, and as such should be eliminated from the budget, with its duties and responsibilities delegated to wide collection of smaller and less-influential instititutions.

All parties and individuals seeking foreign interference in elections should also be punished in all future elections. If it is shown that a campaign bribes a foreign agency for opp research, they should be disqualified from seeking office. Congress and the majority should come down hard on all parties and individuals involved. Everyone I know has completely lost faith in our DOJ, for a myriad of reasons that have collected up to this point. I suggest, beyond just the dissolution of the FBI, that the DOJ also be taken away from the authority of the executive, and given completely to congress. Decisions usually made by the director and AG should be decided by a committee of mixed partisanship to ever prevent this from happening again.
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So...then tell me, how is it that the FBI was somehow unfairly targeting Trump when the FISA warrants on Carter Page (for his repeated contacts with identified Russian intelligence agents) began in 2014, over a year before Trump ever announced his candidacy? Hm?
 
I'm still trying to piece together this entire theory of Russian connection with trump.

Let's say they find proof he talked with put in at some point in time. What are we saying came from these talks? I'm still not even slightly convinced Russia had anything to do with our election and even IF they were behind the DNC email hacks, the information within those emails is way worse to me than Russia being the culprit. I'm still misunderstanding the end game here.

If Page is guilty of some sort of espionage (or all the way up to trump) they absolutely should be punished accordingly, but that still doesn't free up the DNC from their wrong doings. They clearly tried to rig the election.
 
Greenbeard said:
The release of this memo is intended to prevent exactly that.
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maybe that should also be a rule for interfering in other countries elections and maybe get rid of the "foreign" part, seeking any interference in an election should be against the law.
 
The Nunes Memo.

Lol. Four pages of fizzle. No wonder both the FBI and DoJ (Trump appointed Director/Trump appointed Attorney General) warned everyone that it was crap.
 
I don't understand the Russia obsession. If espionage is the concern, so be it. But that does not seem the case.

What exactly is there an investigation for? Communication with Russia. But regarding what? No way I buy that they had any influence on the election, so what's it for?
 
Professor2004 said:
Zero reason why clinton wasn't arrested when they found enough evidence of her mishandling classified emails. All of us would have been locked up for this.

Him not wanting to release potentially more damning evidence that the DNC is extremely corrupt could just be more of the same. But as I said, I don't have his explanation and it's just as possible that he feels this is important info into the active investigation.
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You do realize that the FBI is and always has been dominated by conservatives, don't you?

And this may come as a shock to you, but Hillary is NOT the sitting president and does NOT have command of the most powerful military in human history at her beck and call. Trump does...and so far, most of his campaign staff had meetings with or communications with Kremlin-connected Russians...meetings and communications that every single one of them tried to keep secret.

I used to be a strong Republican back in the day - voted for Reagan and Bush 41 - but today's GOP has lost its way and is now getting its marching orders from a guy who:

1. publicly and repeatedly took the word of the ex-KGB colonel in the Kremlin over that of America's CIA/NSA/FBI, and

2. is now refusing to implement the economic sanctions against Russia that Congress voted 530-5 (House and Senate combined) to enact last year.


You really need to ask yourself if you're on the right side...because the guy in charge of your side sure seems to be a Kremlin toady.
 
Professor2004 said:
maybe that should also be a rule for interfering in other countries elections and maybe get rid of the "foreign" part, seeking any interference in an election should be against the law.
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Always interesting watching the "America first" crowd defend hostile foreign interference in an American election on the basis that it's karma or something.
 
Greenbeard said:
But the FBI's unfairness to Clinton in 2016 is why Trump had to fire Comey! ;)

Wait, are we not using that story anymore?
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Is that the same Comey who announced, ten days or so before the election, he was reopening the investigation into Clinton? Well, that clears it all up.


Um...
 
Professor2004 said:
I'm still trying to piece together this entire theory of Russian connection with trump.

Let's say they find proof he talked with put in at some point in time. What are we saying came from these talks? I'm still not even slightly convinced Russia had anything to do with our election and even IF they were behind the DNC email hacks, the information within those emails is way worse to me than Russia being the culprit. I'm still misunderstanding the end game here.

If Page is guilty of some sort of espionage (or all the way up to trump) they absolutely should be punished accordingly, but that still doesn't free up the DNC from their wrong doings. They clearly tried to rig the election.
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Man you have really been eating up the right wing propaganda work.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
You do realize that the FBI is and always has been dominated by conservatives, don't you?

And this may come as a shock to you, but Hillary is NOT the sitting president and does NOT have command of the most powerful military in human history at her beck and call. Trump does...and so far, most of his campaign staff had meetings with or communications with Kremlin-connected Russians...meetings and communications that every single one of them tried to keep secret.

I used to be a strong Republican back in the day - voted for Reagan and Bush 41 - but today's GOP has lost its way and is now getting its marching orders from a guy who:

1. publicly and repeatedly took the word of the ex-KGB colonel in the Kremlin over that of America's CIA/NSA/FBI, and

2. is now refusing to implement the economic sanctions against Russia that Congress voted 530-5 (House and Senate combined) to enact last year.


You really need to ask yourself if you're on the right side...because the guy in charge of your side sure seems to be a Kremlin toady.
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Who cares about "conservatives"? They have a job to do.
I only brought up clinton because it was relevant to the point.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
With this memo release, it is clear that FBI is, and has only ever been, a political tool. It does not enforce laws, but unconstitutionally punishes those who do not acquisce to all its demands. It is a political tool that is independent of the federal government, and as such should be eliminated from the budget, with its duties and responsibilities delegated to wide collection of smaller and less-influential instititutions.

All parties and individuals seeking foreign interference in elections should also be punished in all future elections. If it is shown that a campaign bribes a foreign agency for opp research, they should be disqualified from seeking office. Congress and the majority should come down hard on all parties and individuals involved. Everyone I know has completely lost faith in our DOJ, for a myriad of reasons that have collected up to this point. I suggest, beyond just the dissolution of the FBI, that the DOJ also be taken away from the authority of the executive, and given completely to congress. Decisions usually made by the director and AG should be decided by a committee of mixed partisanship to ever prevent this from happening again.
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Except, of course, for the pesky fact that the memo doesn't show that to be the case and it hasn't done what you're claiming it has.

Other than that? Spot on!
 
DarkWizard12 said:
With this memo release, it is clear that FBI is, and has only ever been, a political tool. It does not enforce laws, but unconstitutionally punishes those who do not acquisce to all its demands. It is a political tool that is independent of the federal government, and as such should be eliminated from the budget, with its duties and responsibilities delegated to wide collection of smaller and less-influential instititutions.

All parties and individuals seeking foreign interference in elections should also be punished in all future elections. If it is shown that a campaign bribes a foreign agency for opp research, they should be disqualified from seeking office. Congress and the majority should come down hard on all parties and individuals involved. Everyone I know has completely lost faith in our DOJ, for a myriad of reasons that have collected up to this point. I suggest, beyond just the dissolution of the FBI, that the DOJ also be taken away from the authority of the executive, and given completely to congress. Decisions usually made by the director and AG should be decided by a committee of mixed partisanship to ever prevent this from happening again.
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Giving the FBI to congress will only allow whichever party is in power to utilize the FBI for their own political gain. I doubt that one can ever get politics out of the DOJ and the FBI. All one can do is limit its effect. Holder used the DOJ to advance Obama's political agenda and I'm sure Sessions is using it to advance Trump's. Throw on top of that each administration picks and chooses which laws to enforce or ignore to suit their political needs and agendas.
 
Professor2004 said:
Who cares about "conservatives"? They have a job to do.
I only brought up clinton because it was relevant to the point.
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No, it's not relevant at all because of everything I wrote after the first sentence. NONE of that applies to Hillary. Sure, she used a private e-mail server and tried to cover her ass...but that does not for one moment detract from the growing evidence that yes, we DO have a Kremlin toady in the White House.

Trying to stop the investigation into Trump by pointing at Hillary is like saying "We can't prosecute this guy for murder because the same policeman didn't arrest this other woman for shoplifting!" You're working with a false equivalency.

But if you think it's okay to have a Kremlin toady in the White House, that's up to you. Just don't expect to be remembered as an American patriot...because Trump surely won't be.
 
This is pretty crazy.

Leftists have spent almost 2 years shrieking about Russian collusion and involvement with US elections. Now...we have FACTUAL evidence that the DNC bought and paid for Russian collusion to use in the US elections...and leftists cheer it on. We have evidence of senior FBI officials taking 'evidence' that was paid for by an opposition party, fabricated by foreign agents, and used as a basis for criminal investigations solely to attack an opposition political party and leftists celebrate it. We have clear evidence that the FBI through Obama administration officials provided unmasked private conversation of US citizens to political operatives for use during elections...and leftists think its a good thing.

I hop the democrat memo has more substance to it than the leftists hatred directed towards Nunes. What is being offered is nothing resembling a rebuttal. What is being offered is a collection of mindless partisans clearly exposing themselves. What they are doing is ****ing embarrassing. The truly twisted thing is that what the FBI and the DNC has done is PRECISELY the kind of **** that the Soviets would do. hey are acting more like Putin than Putin.
 
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