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OPINION: Why the FISA warrants on Page might reveal something else.

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The Nunes memo is interesting for a number of reasons, but most importantly was the revelation by Andrew McCabe that the Steele dossier was an important factor in the warrant being renewed.

Carter Page was under FISA surveillance for unrelated reasons why back in 2014, in what still remains largely a mystery publicly. This was long before the dossier had been composed by Steele, or Trump was even running for president.

The timeline isn't exactly clear as to how many times the original warrant was renewed, or exactly why. What is clear is that people at high levels of the DOJ and FBI believed there was cause to surveil Page, and four separate FISC judges agreed with them.

If one goes back to the Steele dossier, it alleges the Page had undisclosed meetings with Rosneft executive chairman, Igor Sechin, where he discussed a brokering of what was basically a lucrative bribe to the Trump campaign to repeal the Maginstky act, should Trump become president.

Page publicly denied all of these claims for several months, but came clean to the Senate committees that he did meet with Sechin, and he did discuss shares of Rosneft being brokered -- though he denied anything illicit happened. This was a stark contrast to his previous public statements, which appear to have been intentionally deceptive.

So how does this tie into the FISA warrant? If McCabe really did say that the dossier was used as evidence, that means the FBI knew that elements of it had to be true in regards to Page, as they would have known from their own surveillance of him. If that was the case then it makes perfect sense that a judge was compelled to renew the warrant -- as the work of Steele would have been shown reliable to the court.

It's speculation on my part, but this seems to make sense of everything. If I'm right in my assessment, then it means the Steele document is more reliable than previously assumed.

Carter Page congressional testimony corroborates Steele dossier parts - Business Insider

The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of the former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page's testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the campaign and Moscow before the 2016 US election.

Page revealed during his testimony that he met with members of Russia's presidential administration and the head of investor relations at the Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft during his trip to Moscow in July 2016.

He also congratulated members of the Trump campaign's foreign-policy team on July 14 for their "excellent work" on the "Ukraine amendment" — a reference to the Trump campaign's decision to "intervene," a representative previously told Business Insider, to water down a proposed amendment to the GOP's Ukraine platform.

Thank you, Nunes. :thumbs:
 
The Nunes memo is interesting for a number of reasons, but most importantly was the revelation by Andrew McCabe that the Steele dossier was an important factor in the warrant being renewed.

Carter Page was under FISA surveillance for unrelated reasons why back in 2014, in what still remains largely a mystery publicly. This was long before the dossier had been composed by Steele, or Trump was even running for president.

The timeline isn't exactly clear as to how many times the original warrant was renewed, or exactly why. What is clear is that people at high levels of the DOJ and FBI believed there was cause to surveil Page, and four separate FISC judges agreed with them.

If one goes back to the Steele dossier, it alleges the Page had undisclosed meetings with Rosneft executive chairman, Igor Sechin, where he discussed a brokering of what was basically a lucrative bribe to the Trump campaign to repeal the Maginstky act, should Trump become president.

Page publicly denied all of these claims for several months, but came clean to the Senate committees that he did meet with Sechin, and he did discuss shares of Rosneft being brokered -- though he denied anything illicit happened. This was a stark contrast to his previous public statements, which appear to have been intentionally deceptive.

So how does this tie into the FISA warrant? If McCabe really did say that the dossier was used as evidence, that means the FBI knew that elements of it had to be true in regards to Page, as they would have known from their own surveillance of him. If that was the case then it makes perfect sense that a judge was compelled to renew the warrant -- as the work of Steele would have been shown reliable to the court.

It's speculation on my part, but this seems to make sense of everything. If I'm right in my assessment, then it means the Steele document is more reliable than previously assumed.

Carter Page congressional testimony corroborates Steele dossier parts - Business Insider



Thank you, Nunes. :thumbs:

BINGO! It's likely that Mueller has had this information for a long time.
 
So, this all begs the question why someone who had been under FISA surveillance in 2014 found his way to the 45 campaign.

And now Russian intel knows exactly when Page was under investigation.
 
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So, this all begs the question why someone who had been under FISA surveillance in 2014 found his way to the 45 campaign.

When a carrier (germ) joins larger group, they usually bring the infection with them and spread the ailment to others in the group....Carter Page is either the simplest tool or the sharpest! He was a top ten percent graduate an the USNA and has a Phd, but boy, can he play the fool!
 
So, this all begs the question why someone who had been under FISA surveillance in 2014 found his way to the 45 campaign.

And now Russian intel knows exactly when Page was under investigation.


The Russians did not hold Page in high esteem! Maybe he is a savant.....
 
When a carrier (germ) joins larger group, they usually bring the infection with them and spread the ailment to others in the group....Carter Page is either the simplest tool or the sharpest! He was a top ten percent graduate an the USNA and has a Phd, but boy, can he play the fool!

It also begs the question as to what exactly Page's role was in the campaign. Was he hired or planted?
 
The Russians did not hold Page in high esteem! Maybe he is a savant.....

Servant, not savant. Maybe, just another co-fe-fe boy.
 
Servant, not savant. Maybe, just another co-fe-fe boy.


Trump campaign had many coffee bearers!
Barristas are being maligned.......
 
Servant, not savant. Maybe, just another co-fe-fe boy.

He strikes me as a combination of the Village Idiot and Sheldon Cooper corrupted by the politics of a right wing true believer.
 
The Nunes memo is interesting for a number of reasons, but most importantly was the revelation by Andrew McCabe that the Steele dossier was an important factor in the warrant being renewed.

Carter Page was under FISA surveillance for unrelated reasons why back in 2014, in what still remains largely a mystery publicly. This was long before the dossier had been composed by Steele, or Trump was even running for president.

The timeline isn't exactly clear as to how many times the original warrant was renewed, or exactly why. What is clear is that people at high levels of the DOJ and FBI believed there was cause to surveil Page, and four separate FISC judges agreed with them.

If one goes back to the Steele dossier, it alleges the Page had undisclosed meetings with Rosneft executive chairman, Igor Sechin, where he discussed a brokering of what was basically a lucrative bribe to the Trump campaign to repeal the Maginstky act, should Trump become president.

Page publicly denied all of these claims for several months, but came clean to the Senate committees that he did meet with Sechin, and he did discuss shares of Rosneft being brokered -- though he denied anything illicit happened. This was a stark contrast to his previous public statements, which appear to have been intentionally deceptive.

So how does this tie into the FISA warrant? If McCabe really did say that the dossier was used as evidence, that means the FBI knew that elements of it had to be true in regards to Page, as they would have known from their own surveillance of him. If that was the case then it makes perfect sense that a judge was compelled to renew the warrant -- as the work of Steele would have been shown reliable to the court.

It's speculation on my part, but this seems to make sense of everything. If I'm right in my assessment, then it means the Steele document is more reliable than previously assumed.



Carter Page congressional testimony corroborates Steele dossier parts - Business Insider



Thank you, Nunes. :thumbs:

Was the FISA surveillance application in Oct 16 related to previous FISA applications? Or was it a new, unrelated issue...with that dossier as the primary basis?

Also, what was the relation of the Jul 16 FISA application...that was denied...to previous Page issues and to the subsequent Oct 16 application?

I suspect one of the five ongoing investigations...of which the House Intel Committee is one...will reveal the answer to these questions. I think there is a LOT more stuff coming.
 
The Nunes memo is interesting for a number of reasons, but most importantly was the revelation by Andrew McCabe that the Steele dossier was an important factor in the warrant being renewed.

Carter Page was under FISA surveillance for unrelated reasons why back in 2014, in what still remains largely a mystery publicly. This was long before the dossier had been composed by Steele, or Trump was even running for president.

The timeline isn't exactly clear as to how many times the original warrant was renewed, or exactly why. What is clear is that people at high levels of the DOJ and FBI believed there was cause to surveil Page, and four separate FISC judges agreed with them.

If one goes back to the Steele dossier, it alleges the Page had undisclosed meetings with Rosneft executive chairman, Igor Sechin, where he discussed a brokering of what was basically a lucrative bribe to the Trump campaign to repeal the Maginstky act, should Trump become president.

Page publicly denied all of these claims for several months, but came clean to the Senate committees that he did meet with Sechin, and he did discuss shares of Rosneft being brokered -- though he denied anything illicit happened. This was a stark contrast to his previous public statements, which appear to have been intentionally deceptive.

So how does this tie into the FISA warrant? If McCabe really did say that the dossier was used as evidence, that means the FBI knew that elements of it had to be true in regards to Page, as they would have known from their own surveillance of him. If that was the case then it makes perfect sense that a judge was compelled to renew the warrant -- as the work of Steele would have been shown reliable to the court.

It's speculation on my part, but this seems to make sense of everything. If I'm right in my assessment, then it means the Steele document is more reliable than previously assumed.

Carter Page congressional testimony corroborates Steele dossier parts - Business Insider



Thank you, Nunes. :thumbs:
The FBI was used as a political tool by the DNC and senior DOJ officials, that's what the memo proves. Nothing less. Thank you, democrats, for showing the world how stupid you are ;)
 
The FBI was used as a political tool by the DNC and senior DOJ officials, that's what the memo proves. Nothing less. Thank you, democrats, for showing the world how stupid you are ;)
Well, gee, you said it, so it must be true!:screwy

This memo is one confused, idiotic mess of ideas, that does the exact opposite of what it was intended to do.
 
Well, gee, you said it, so it must be true!:screwy

This memo is one confused, idiotic mess of ideas, that does the exact opposite of what it was intended to do.

lol that's what you wish it would do. This was a death knell to Mueller's probe. At least half of his evidence is inadmissible in a court of law, as a result.
 
When a carrier (germ) joins larger group, they usually bring the infection with them and spread the ailment to others in the group....Carter Page is either the simplest tool or the sharpest! He was a top ten percent graduate an the USNA and has a Phd, but boy, can he play the fool!
Holy crap!

I never would've guessed this. Never.
 
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