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If you think unemployment under Trump is merely continuing Obama's unemployment trend, look again.

Critter7r said:
Well, how convenient for you. you can make up a completely useless way to measure something and when someone points out that it's not any sort of accepted standard of measurement, you cry "Appeal to the Masses Fallacy!!".

Obama reduced Unemployment by more clingbits than Trump, so you lose.
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Considering what the unemployment rate is at the time of the unemployment rate change is far from useless.

EDIT: And not sure how "I lose". I voted for Obama twice, and Trump. I've done a lot of winning.
 
PTF said:
atheists usually support this dude obama who challenge those who worship.
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Obama has more Christianity in his pinky than Trump.

Trump said he never asked God for forgiveness. Do you know why he said that? It's because it's true and because he doesn't know the first thing about Christianity. He knows absolutely nothing about it. That's the only explanation for what he said.

But Obama clearly understands Grace. He gave a speech about Grace. He wrote a very detailed explanation of his conversion to Christianity.

Obama is Christian but he understands that he's the president of a country where not everyone is Christian. You can't say "Merry Christmas" to Jews or Hindus. They're American too.
 
atheist4thecaus said:
Considering what the unemployment rate is at the time of the unemployment rate change is far from useless.
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Cutting UE by 15% when UE is at 12% results in many more people getting back to work and a larger reduction of UE than a 15% drop when UE is at 4%. It's far from a useful statistic.
 
Critter7r said:
Cutting UE by 15% when UE is at 12% results in many more people getting back to work and a larger reduction of UE than a 15% drop when UE is at 4%. It's far from a useful statistic.
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I know it's an inconvenient statistic for you politically, but gross numbers about how many people are brought out of unemployment does not make the point you think it makes. I've already explained how people will less skill are likely to lose their job first, and putting people with less skill back to work is harder than putting people back to work with more skill. You have said nothing others didn't say, but you, like them, have not responded to this point I made.
 
atheist4thecaus said:
I know it's an inconvenient statistic for you politically, but gross numbers about how many people are brought out of unemployment does not make the point you think it makes. I've already explained how people with less skill are likely to lose their job first, and putting people with less skill back to work is harder than putting people back to work with more skill. You have said nothing others didn't say, but you, like them, have not responded to this point I made.
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I think what I've failed to do is point out that the situations surrounding 10% UE vs. 5% UE are so different as to make any direct comparisons of the reduction percentage meaningless. THAT's why it's a less-than-useful statistic.
 
atheist4thecaus said:
I like Obama, but many Trump-haters are misled. When Obama was sworn into office on 1/09, the unemployment rate was 7.8%. By 12/16, the unemployment rate was 4.7%. That means the unemployment rate dropped 3.1% under Obama. That was over 8 years. Under Trump, the unemployment rate after just one year has dropped .7% (4.8% to 4.1%). If the unemployment rate dropped .7% every year for 8 years, that would amount to a drop of 5.6%. Of course, that can't happen because that drop would be higher than unemployment itself.

Lets look at unemployment rate another way, as in % of change of total unemployment:
'09: Rose 26.9%
'10: Dropped 5.1%
'11: 6.6%
'12: 4.8%
'13: 16.3%
'14: 15.2%
'15: 12.3%
'16: 4.1%

As you can see, the % unemployment drop had already been slowing down under Obama for 3 years, at in his final year, the unemployment drop % was only 4.1%. Now for Trump's big number:

'17: Dropped 14.6%

So if you think that the economy was merely continuing it's trend, you have to answer why the unemployment drop % went down 3 straight years, gets down to 4.1% drop, and then suddenly the unemployment drop % shoots up to a very good 14.6%. What in Obama's policies caused that change?
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You must be a true math illiterate

How can the unemployment be at 4.1%. that means 4% of the population not working then over a year drop 14% which means -10% of of the population is not working....

learn some math before making shait up....

or you delusionally confusing 14% drop form 2014 4% unemployment which means 3.4%, which is actually less change from 2015 to 2016....

Honestly people must be able to pass minimum of basic math test before being allowed to post crap on the forum!

Diving Mullah
 
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