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Deal Or No Deal II

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How about a DACA deal that has a path to citizenship for 1.8 million in exchange for a huge increase in border security (not necessarily a wall) AND the elimination of sanctuary cities, that would no longer be necessary since Democrats would be agreeing that illegal immigration has come to an end?

Deal, or No Deal?
 
How about a DACA deal that has a path to citizenship for 1.8 million in exchange for a huge increase in border security (not necessarily a wall) AND the elimination of sanctuary cities, that would no longer be necessary since Democrats would be agreeing that illegal immigration has come to an end?

Deal, or No Deal?

If there's no wall half of us will vote Democrat just to show our anger.


We will not accept any more lies about our border security.
 
How about a DACA deal that has a path to citizenship for 1.8 million in exchange for a huge increase in border security (not necessarily a wall) AND the elimination of sanctuary cities, that would no longer be necessary since Democrats would be agreeing that illegal immigration has come to an end?

Deal, or No Deal?

Well Trump wants a wall so that deal isn't happening.
 
How about a DACA deal that has a path to citizenship for 1.8 million in exchange for a huge increase in border security (not necessarily a wall) AND the elimination of sanctuary cities, that would no longer be necessary since Democrats would be agreeing that illegal immigration has come to an end?

Deal, or No Deal?

Federal government does not have the authority to get rid of sanctuary cities(probably, it has not been tested in court yet).
 
I would rather see complete immigration reform into a merit based system. No waiting lists or other BS. If you are able to come in and provide for yourself and your family then welcome home. If not, good bye. Include harsh penalties to businesses and landlords for providing to illegal immigrants and there is no need for a wall.
 
How about a DACA deal that has a path to citizenship for 1.8 million in exchange for a huge increase in border security (not necessarily a wall) AND the elimination of sanctuary cities, that would no longer be necessary since Democrats would be agreeing that illegal immigration has come to an end?

Deal, or No Deal?

I'd sign it were I POTUS, but I 'd rather see a crack down on employers of illegals along with the rest.
 
Federal government does not have the authority to get rid of sanctuary cities(probably, it has not been tested in court yet).

I realize that and that's not really what I said anyway. Assuming the Democrats as a whole could arbitrarily eliminate sanctuary cities if they wanted to, would the Democrats deal that away for the rest?
 
I realize that and that's not really what I said anyway. Assuming the Democrats as a whole could arbitrarily eliminate sanctuary cities if they wanted to, would the Democrats deal that away for the rest?

The point though is that sanctuary cities are not something that the democrats have to negotiate with. It would be akin to asking US republicans if they would deal away Australia in order to get something they wanted. Australia is not theirs to give.
 
If you guys are admitting that you will vote democrat out of anger next time. Trump will lose. You'll get no wall and rampant amnesty. Great "plan".

So, you want the wall for the good of the GOP because you are so moderate. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
How about a DACA deal that has a path to citizenship for 1.8 million in exchange for a huge increase in border security (not necessarily a wall) AND the elimination of sanctuary cities, that would no longer be necessary since Democrats would be agreeing that illegal immigration has come to an end?

Deal, or No Deal?


No deal. Anti-American globalists in both the Democrat and Republican parties don't want illegal immigration to end. They get votes from those that aid and employ illegal immigrants and their relatives who are here legally.Those same anti-American globalists that in the Democrat and Republican parties can't be trusted to uphold any enforcement measures. Since the 30 years ago Reagan amnesty was enacted.We went from having around three million illegals to the eleven to twenty million illegals in our country. We got little to no enforcement against the scum who hire illegals. We still got a porous border. Our government sues states and cities that enact any anti-illegal immigration laws while ignoring sanctuary cities and states. Our presidents are allowed to grant executive amnesty thus making this problem even worse. So why on God's green earth would anyone with at least an ounce of common sense trust that any enforcement measures be upheld? Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
 
If there's no wall half of us will vote Democrat just to show our anger.

We will not accept any more lies about our border security.

I can understand not voting for politicians who don't uphold campaign promises. Which is why I will never vote for RINOs. By voting for RINOs you encourage the republican party to prop up more RINOs. A vote for a RINO is basically telling the republican party its okay to move further to the left.However at the same time I will never vote for democrats just because I am mad at the republicans. Because what they enact will just speed up what the RINOs want. So I will just vote 3rd party or leave that part of the ballot blank if I don't like any of the candidates. Which is I didn't vote for Trump, Romney or McCain.
 
So, you want the wall for the good of the GOP because you are so moderate. Thanks for clearing that up.

Not having the wall is the moderate position. :roll:

Crybabies jumping parties because they didn't get what they wanted and expecting the Democrats to give you want you want is hypocrisy.
 
The point though is that sanctuary cities are not something that the democrats have to negotiate with. It would be akin to asking US republicans if they would deal away Australia in order to get something they wanted. Australia is not theirs to give.

I realize that. I was just asking what if? Deal or no deal.
 
Not having the wall is the moderate position. :roll:

Crybabies jumping parties because they didn't get what they wanted and expecting the Democrats to give you want you want is hypocrisy.

actually no

they want DACA

they wanted CHIP

they have other wants

it is a negotiation.....give to get

only this time, the wall is non negotiable (at least that is what trump says)

that is the way it is actually supposed to work
 
No deal. Anti-American globalists in both the Democrat and Republican parties don't want illegal immigration to end. They get votes from those that aid and employ illegal immigrants and their relatives who are here legally.Those same anti-American globalists that in the Democrat and Republican parties can't be trusted to uphold any enforcement measures. Since the 30 years ago Reagan amnesty was enacted.We went from having around three million illegals to the eleven to twenty million illegals in our country. We got little to no enforcement against the scum who hire illegals. We still got a porous border. Our government sues states and cities that enact any anti-illegal immigration laws while ignoring sanctuary cities and states. Our presidents are allowed to grant executive amnesty thus making this problem even worse. So why on God's green earth would anyone with at least an ounce of common sense trust that any enforcement measures be upheld? Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Let's assume that 100% of everything you say is exactly right. What is your deal? What is it that you want? And, if both Democrats and Republicans both are exactly as you say, how do you expect anything to actually happen? Or, do you just want to cry about it because no one is doing anything? If we put up a big beautiful wall, do you expect it to stop illegal immigration?
 
Not having the wall is the moderate position. :roll:

Crybabies jumping parties because they didn't get what they wanted and expecting the Democrats to give you want you want is hypocrisy.

We have a wall now!!!!!
 
We have a wall now!!!!!

actually no

they want DACA

they wanted CHIP

they have other wants

it is a negotiation.....give to get

only this time, the wall is non negotiable (at least that is what trump says)

that is the way it is actually supposed to work

Are you people this ignorant? It only works because that's what Trump wants. That's the position he has taken. My position is a wall is pointless. The wall is not going to do anything to stop illegal immigrants. It's just gonna cost us more money. Money we could be spending on other things like NASA.
 
I can understand not voting for politicians who don't uphold campaign promises. Which is why I will never vote for RINOs. By voting for RINOs you encourage the republican party to prop up more RINOs. A vote for a RINO is basically telling the republican party its okay to move further to the left.However at the same time I will never vote for democrats just because I am mad at the republicans. Because what they enact will just speed up what the RINOs want. So I will just vote 3rd party or leave that part of the ballot blank if I don't like any of the candidates. Which is I didn't vote for Trump, Romney or McCain.

With that attitude, I'm surprised you find anyone at all to vote for.
 
Are you people this ignorant? It only works because that's what Trump wants. That's the position he has taken. My position is a wall is pointless. The wall is not going to do anything to stop illegal immigrants. It's just gonna cost us more money. Money we could be spending on other things like NASA.

that is always a wonderful way to win an argument....

start by calling people ignorant

blah blah blah....the rest goes unheard....as it should be
 
that is always a wonderful way to win an argument....

start by calling people ignorant

blah blah blah....the rest goes unheard....as it should be

You are acting like Trump is the first one who thought of how deal-making works. He's not.
 
If there's no wall half of us will vote Democrat just to show our anger.


We will not accept any more lies about our border security.

Don't worry, I heard from a very legitimate source Mexico is paying for the wall, so we don't need to worry about it in immigration legislation.
 
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