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Why Hannity rates highly[W:41]

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See my thread over in Bias In The Media about how TV news is now a consumer product instead of a public service, which it ONCE WAS.

It's all about feeding confirmation bias.
 
Hannity has always been a ridiculous side show. But now he knows he's being watched by Trump on a constant basis. This gives him power to convince our dullard president along with his regular not so bright viewers that real news is fake, and his stupid presentations are news.

It has been suggested that he is auditioning for a role in the White House. The guy might not be bright enough to realize he is much more valuable to Trump sitting right where he is and there probably won't be any presidential appointments. Maybe a few rounds of golf on the house, or a discounted greens fee coupon.

Why does the Hannity logo look like an NFL advertisement? So blue and starry and football like? Does this give the illusion of a "hard hitting" "in the trenches" "reporting?" Maybe that's why some people can relate...it's visceral
 
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It's all about feeding confirmation bias.

Absolutely, because THAT is how one creates PROFIT from reporting "the news".
You just make it into a "consumer product".
Nobody buys a "consumer product" that they don't like!

If you're a Ford guy, they don't try to sell you a Chevy, do they?
If you like wolves, they're not out to sell you tangerines.

That is the trouble with "SELLING" news instead of just selling airtime DURING the news.
When you make the news itself something that is required to generate profits, it has to be shaped to appeal to the target audience.

So the point is, it's not that "the news media is LYING", it's that the news media is SELLING.
They wouldn't DREAM of squirting some Habanero Pepper* in your oatmeal, because they know you'd push the bowl away and never eat at their "restaurant" again.

(*any sort of inconvenient truth)
 
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FOX and shows like Hannity appeal to the far right of the audience watching TV. MSNBC and CNN split the audience from the left. This gives FOX an advantage in claiming their shows are the highest rated. And even then sometimes shows like Rachel Maddow are higher rated than the competition on FOX even with the split.

And then there is the all important demographic of age - which FOX skews older.

Thanks for your thoughts. In my opinion the folk who mostly watch Fox aren’t “far right”, but just average republicans, and a few democrats. In fact I think the classification “far right” doesn’t exist, because most of those people you would describe as “far right” don’t even vote. I am familiar with extremists online, and many of them were closer to the Left than the right, but again, many didn’t vote at all. Getting back to your comment though, I think that it’s just normal Americans watching Fox. Why they tend to watch Hannity so much is what interested me. For instance, I prefer Tucker to Hannity, and only watch a little of Hannity these days. Even with Tucker I have to fast forward through a lot of the interviews because they’re just obstinate guests who repeat themselves ad nauseam. So I watched Hannity a little closer the other day and figured he must be so popular because he talks to average Americans in a language they understand. Politics is quite complex and he has a knack of being able to break it down so they can understand. Other commentators tend to assume you the audience understand, and thus talk about the issues on their own level. Hannity tends to ‘explain’ the issues from the ground up.
 
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Other commentators tend to assume you the audience understand, and thus talk about the issues on their own level. Hannity tends to ‘explain’ the issues from the ground up.

May I ask for ONE example where he does exactly that, please?
( ‘explains’ the issues from the ground up.)

A description, YouTube clip, a link to something elsewhere in this forum, or on some other forum, a newspaper or online article or your very own evidence.
(MUST NOT be ANECDOTAL evidence)
 
ratings mean squat. He gets high ratings because he tells angry Republican voters what they want to hear. Like Trump, he knows his base and what to say to them so they can keep watching his crap, and voting Republican of course.

The hate is obviously coming from the Left. They are furious about Trump winning. Righties are too busy rejoicing in Trump’s win, and in all the changes being made, to be hateful.
 
The hate is obviously coming from the Left. They are furious about Trump winning. Righties are too busy rejoicing in Trump’s win, and in all the changes being made, to be hateful.

Seriously, as if the Right marched on Washington to protest Obama's election, carrying vile and vulgar signs.
As if the right tried to delegitimize Obama's due election.
As if the Right needed to mount a campaign to get Obama impeached and filed articles on a regular basis.
As if any Republican politician held "Impeach 44" rallies.
 
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Can you give me some examples of what you find hateful from the right

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Anything they don't agree with.
 
Mostly old people who think the 60's where the good ol' days

Half of Fox News' Viewers Are 68 and Older

Nursing home viewers. They need to put Trump in a nursing home where he belongs.

Here we have a good example of how Fake News is created. You see your headline “Half of Fox News' Viewers Are 68 and Older”? Let’s track that back to its source. The first link takes us to ‘The Atlantic’ which is quoting this information from New York Magazine. If you follow the link to there we see the following (emphasis mine):

With a median viewer age now at 68 according to Nielsen data through mid-January (compared with 60 for MSNBC and CNN, and 62 to 64 for the broadcast networks), Fox is in essence a retirement community.

Frank Rich on Fox News, Roger Ailes -- New York Magazine
”​

So we see that Neilson did a survey “through mid-January” and found that during those few days the median viewer age of Fox viewers was 68 compared to 60 for MSNBC and CNN and 62 to 64 for the broadcast networks. So what? Yet they sum that up by calling Fox a “retirement community”. If so then MSNBC and CNN and the broadcast networks are ALL retirement communities, since you would an even bigger difference in age in real retirement communities.

Fake News.
 
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Absolutely, because THAT is how one creates PROFIT from reporting "the news".
You just make it into a "consumer product".
Nobody buys a "consumer product" that they don't like!

If you're a Ford guy, they don't try to sell you a Chevy, do they?
If you like wolves, they're not out to sell you tangerines.

That is the trouble with "SELLING" news instead of just selling airtime DURING the news.
When you make the news itself something that is required to generate profits, it has to be shaped to appeal to the target audience.

So the point is, it's not that "the news media is LYING", it's that the news media is SELLING.
They wouldn't DREAM of squirting some Habanero Pepper* in your oatmeal, because they know you'd push the bowl away and never eat at their "restaurant" again.

(*any sort of inconvenient truth)



If you have a problem with what a media outlet is broadcasting look in the mirror. There is so much $$$$$ on the table, "the viewer" is mega studied, combined with internet trends, they know exactly what will keep you viewing.

At the national level, news scripts aren't last seen my editors, but by sociologists who parse words down the base meanings to avoid "negativizing" the mind of the viewer.

You get what you get because you keep coming back for more.
 
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If you have a problem with what a media outlet is broadcasting look in the mirror. There is so much $$$$$ on the table, "the viewer" is mega studied, combined with internet trends, they know exactly what will keep you viewing.

At the national level, news scripts aren't last seen my editors, but by sociologists who parse words down the base meanings to avoid "negativizing" the mind of the viewer.

You get what you get because you keep coming back for more.
Thats fair and u.fair at the same time
A bit of a paradox. These organaxations are intentionsly midstepresenting things to satiate their audience. The blame is 50 50

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You’re not going to get high ratings like Sean Hannity’s unless you’re doing something right. So what is he doing right?

For one, he tells the truth, which is in short supply these days. That’s not easy. Most journalists are told what to say, and specifically, ordered to tell a pack of lies over and over.

Secondly, he sees straight through the Fake News, which abounds. This explains why he seems frantic; it’s because of the sheer volume of Fake News to combat. It would be the same if you put him at a news desk in Stalin’s Communist Russia and told him he could undo as many lies from Pravda as he liked. He’d have to go hammer and tong just to point out the worst.

Aside from this he’s loyal, determined, hardworking and can have a laugh at himself.

Finally, he connects with the common man by keeping academic clutter and intellectual hot air to a minimum, saying it like it is and keeping to the point.

You're joking right---:lamo Sean Hannity is nothing more than a mouth piece for Trump.

FOX NEWS is involved in a Federal law suit right now, over Sean Hannity concocting a conspiracy with White House oversight the death of a DNC staffer Seth Rich, in an effort to spin news that the Russian intervention into the election is just a ruse, while denying the intelligence coming out of the CIA, the FBI, the Dept. of Homeland Security and 14 other intelligence agencies is all FAKE news.
Lawsuit: Fox News concocted Seth Rich story with oversight from White House - Aug. 1, 2017

It got so bad Hannity was also promoting Julian Assange, (Wikileaks founder) a known intelligence enemy of this nation, who has been hole'd up in the Ecuador embassy for the last 4 years avoiding extradition back to the U.S to face charges on what he did to G.W. Bush, (basically putting a target on every American soldiers back.) Assange who was recently labled a foreign intelligence enemy of this nation--by CIA chief Pompeo--for releasing thousands of CIA documents informing terrorists of the tactics used to catch them.
Why is Julian Assange still inside the embassy of Ecuador? - Telegraph
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/cia-d...hostile-intelligence-service-920739395951?v=b
Analyst says WikiLeaks dump 'devastating' for CIA - CNNPolitics



Everything Hannity has been spinning for more than a year has been DEBUNKED. I would suggest that you check Sean Hannity's American status right now, because if there is anyone that really needs to be deported it's him.

Sean Hannity is no patriot of this country, he's just a sycophant Trump crony. The below linked article describes him well.
Donald Trump breaks the conservative media - Business Insider.

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Furthermore his ratings have collapsed, Rachel Maddow of MSNBC is now the number ONE cable watched news program.
https://conservativefiringline.com/maddow-fox-news-cnn-gaining/
 
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The election was too close to be 'meaningful'. Trump didn't win.

Trump won fair and square, 306 to 232. Lefties need to stop living in denial.

IQ tests should be required to vote.

At first glance that sounds good. The problem is that the Left infiltrate everything – they are very good at that. It wouldn’t take long for them to infiltrate the IQ setting committee. Pretty soon the questions on the IQ test would be easily answered by Lefties, not conservatives.

Using the system the Founders used would be far more effective. Failing that, simply make it so that only people above 30 and who own property can vote.
 
The hate is obviously coming from the Left. They are furious about Trump winning. Righties are too busy rejoicing in Trump’s win, and in all the changes being made, to be hateful.

whatever makes you sleep better at night, champ.
 
Seriously, as if the Right marched on Washington to protest Obama's election, carrying vile and vulgar signs.
As if the right tried to delegitimize Obama's due election.
As if the Right needed to mount a campaign to get Obama impeached and filed articles on a regular basis.
As if any Republican politician held "Impeach 44" rallies.







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Who are you trying to kid? Your president is the result of the right's anti Obama hatred for 8 years. you guys were/are despicable
 
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Deciding on having an abortion isn't an easy thing to do and sometimes it's the most selfless act a person can do. For them to lay this guilt trip on these poor couples faced with that difficult choice just struck me as conservatism at its most evil.

This is like the tale of "The Emperor's New Clothes" where a boy destroys a myth by saying, “But the Emperor has no clothes!” In this case I’m the boy, here to tell you that in fact, the Left oppose abortion more than conservatives do.

Many Democrat voting Americans, including but not limited to Catholic Hispanic Americans, and all other Catholic Americans, plus many millions of African and Arab immigrants, and others, oppose abortion. Fake News never mention them and their anti-abortion beliefs, nor all the Republicans who support abortion. None of them exist as far as Fake News are concerned.
 
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I am a lefty, but always listen to conservative talk radio when I am driving. I disagree with Savage and Levin, but cannot stomach Limbaugh and Hannity. They are not intellectually honest. Savage can be offensive, but is obviously not serious when he demands the massive arrests of reporters or other groups he is attacking. Levin is wrong about stuff in my view, but adheres to standards. Hannity is almost laughable. He doesn’t drink Trump’s bath water, he mainlines it. He would hold Trump’s coat when he shoots the guy on Fifth Avenue, then deny that Trump did it, then say it was justified when presented with the video.
 
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So it's okay to be racist, sexist, and xenophobic as long as you are racist, sexist, and xenophobic against the right people? Got it.

Is Sean Hannity a racist and a sexist because he's white and of Irish dissent?
 
You’re not going to get high ratings like Sean Hannity’s unless you’re doing something right. So what is he doing right?

For one, he tells the truth, which is in short supply these days. That’s not easy. Most journalists are told what to say, and specifically, ordered to tell a pack of lies over and over.

Secondly, he sees straight through the Fake News, which abounds. This explains why he seems frantic; it’s because of the sheer volume of Fake News to combat. It would be the same if you put him at a news desk in Stalin’s Communist Russia and told him he could undo as many lies from Pravda as he liked. He’d have to go hammer and tong just to point out the worst.

Aside from this he’s loyal, determined, hardworking and can have a laugh at himself.

Finally, he connects with the common man by keeping academic clutter and intellectual hot air to a minimum, saying it like it is and keeping to the point.

Hannity tells the truth? :lamo
 
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If you have a problem with what a media outlet is broadcasting look in the mirror. There is so much $$$$$ on the table, "the viewer" is mega studied, combined with internet trends, they know exactly what will keep you viewing.

At the national level, news scripts aren't last seen my editors, but by sociologists who parse words down the base meanings to avoid "negativizing" the mind of the viewer.

You get what you get because you keep coming back for more.

No no, I DO GET what you're saying, which is WHY I am saying what I said.
I was majoring in journalism, preparing to be a reporter, decided at the last minute not to go into it because Cronkite
said that the landscape was going to change drastically. I became a camera op instead, crash and burn stories, fires, shootings, anything that paid...behind the camera instead of in front of it. Prior to the 1980's news on TV was generally run more as a public service.
Eliminating the Fairness Doctrine, by little steps at first, then wholeheartedly, made it impossible to run it as such, and that set the stage for "selling" the news as a carefully targeted consumer product.

If we have a problem with what the media outlets feed us, we should be doing whatever we can to reinstitute something that does what the old Fairness Doctrine used to do, we should be trying to reverse all the deregulation and the ownership consolidation and concentration.
 
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Why Hannity rates highly

people on both sides like to hear commentators read their opinions back to them. however, when i was a right winger, i still found Hannity annoying. i was more of a Limbaugh / Beck listener. at night, i would sometimes listen to Michael Savage scream at callers because he was insane and it was funny.
 
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May I ask for ONE example where he does exactly that, please?
( ‘explains’ the issues from the ground up.)

A description, YouTube clip, a link to something elsewhere in this forum, or on some other forum, a newspaper or online article or your very own evidence.
(MUST NOT be ANECDOTAL evidence)

Here's an example - I only watched the first 2 minutes, but you'll notice he explains it all clearly, so even average people can understand.

https://youtu.be/ROtSnILu74o

The political upheaval that has happened in the last decade is confusing to many people. Hannity is a bit like a school teacher, putting it up on the blackboard and taking them through it step by step.
 
Seriously, as if the Right marched on Washington to protest Obama's election, carrying vile and vulgar signs.
As if the right tried to delegitimize Obama's due election.
As if the Right needed to mount a campaign to get Obama impeached and filed articles on a regular basis.
As if any Republican politician held "Impeach 44" rallies.

Yes, it's starkly clear it's the Left who are not only angry, but violently angry.
 
You’re not going to get high ratings like Sean Hannity’s unless you’re doing something right. So what is he doing right?

For one, he tells the truth, which is in short supply these days. That’s not easy. Most journalists are told what to say, and specifically, ordered to tell a pack of lies over and over.

Secondly, he sees straight through the Fake News, which abounds. This explains why he seems frantic; it’s because of the sheer volume of Fake News to combat. It would be the same if you put him at a news desk in Stalin’s Communist Russia and told him he could undo as many lies from Pravda as he liked. He’d have to go hammer and tong just to point out the worst.

Aside from this he’s loyal, determined, hardworking and can have a laugh at himself.

Finally, he connects with the common man by keeping academic clutter and intellectual hot air to a minimum, saying it like it is and keeping to the point.

Look at you deflecting for your hero after last week's EMBARRASSING performance by Hannity. Fortunately he also had his twitter account go dark for a few hours that he and his sheep will rail about so that they don't have to talk about:

 
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