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What are women marching about? [W:182]

Re: What are women marching about?

Thorgasm said:
Were they "bleeding from wherever"?
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I dunno about that. though it would be scary as hell for a fascist if this one released her secret weapon.

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Grim17 said:
That is the question Candice Owens has...
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Well, I don't really care what Candice Owens thinks, but mainly they are marching for the right to control their own bodies and to be treated as equals to not have idiotic stereotypes used to deny them the career of their choice despite being obviously qualified. They are marching to be seen as more than just objects of male desire, but as human beings with their own agency, passion, drive, ego, goals, and dreams that include more than just making babies.
 
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Rob Larrikin said:
Wrong. You may blame feminists.



About 12 percent of American men went to war during WWII. The other 88% stayed behind to continue running the country.

https://www.quora.com/What-percent-...ut-of-the-entire-population-of-men-in-America



During WWII the percentage of American women who worked outside the home at paying work increased by only 11%. Most of them went back to what they were doing once the war finished.

The reason women began deserting the family unit was because feminists encouraged them to. They told women to get jobs, forget working in the kitchen, put off having children, and tell their husbands where to stick it. They told them that there was nothing wrong with divorce, and encouraged them to do it.
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Actually, you are wrong. the reason most women started going to work is the fact that the amount of pay that the business were given in comparison to the cost of living kept on decreasing, and to have any kind of standard of living, you needed two incomes in the house hold.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
So anecdotal evidence. IE: You got nothing. Gotcha.
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I have eyes.

You have eyes.

Do you see something different? Does this one black woman make up for the countless white men?
 
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RAMOSS said:
Actually, you are wrong. the reason most women started going to work is the fact that the amount of pay that the business were given in comparison to the cost of living kept on decreasing, and to have any kind of standard of living, you needed two incomes in the house hold.
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That is partially true. Women wanted to work without necessarily needing the second income. The disposable income helped to increase the cost of living as that is what the market would bear.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
Derp.



So if someone says something on a web site, it must be true. What a dumb position you have.
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Actually thats what you are doing. You want your feelings to be true, you want people to care about your feelings you wrote on a wed site, you want people to share your feelings but most simply dont. They remain 100% meaningless because they have no rational or intellectual merit on this topic at all. Facts prove them wrong and destroy them for the fodder they are. If that bothers you thats your issue to get over. Honest, topically educated and objective people will be sticking with facts.
 
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AGENT J said:
Actually thats what you are doing. You want your feelings to be true, you want people to care about your feelings you wrote on a wed site, you want people to share your feelings but most simply dont. They remain 100% meaningless because they have no rational or intellectual merit on this topic at all. Facts prove them wrong and destroy them for the fodder they are. If that bothers you thats your issue to get over. Honest, topically educated and objective people will be sticking with facts.
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:lol: your posts are so deluded and barely coherent. Tell me why didn't any of the marchers have signs about weinstien and hollywood? no anti-franken signs? IT was an anti-trump rally masqarading as a womans march. just like last time. you put on your little ***** hat and beta yourself to these SJW idiots all you want, thats how you wish to represent yourself and it's embarrassing./
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
:lol: your posts are so deluded and barely coherent.
2.) Tell me why didn't any of the marchers have signs about weinstien and hollywood? no anti-franken signs?
3.) IT was an anti-trump rally masqarading as a womans march. just like last time.
4.) you put on your little ***** hat and beta yourself to these SJW idiots all you want, thats how you wish to represent yourself and it's embarrassing./
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1.) more opinion and ZERO facts, par for the course
2.) oh so you were there and you saw every sign? oh thats right you werent and didnt. once again ZERO facts to support your absurd claims
3.) repeating this proven wrong lie wont make it true.
4.) and more deflection,, failed insults, lies and tough guy routine that nobody buys from you. l We know again you WANT your feelings to matter and be taken seriously but they just arent when facts prove them wrong. sorry :shrug:

Facts> that your feelings
 
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AGENT J said:
1.) more opinion and ZERO facts, par for the course
2.) oh so you were there and you saw every sign? oh thats right you werent and didnt. once again ZERO facts to support your absurd claims
3.) repeating this proven wrong lie wont make it true.
4.) and more deflection,, failed insults, lies and tough guy routine that nobody buys from you. l We know again you WANT your feelings to matter and be taken seriously but they just arent when facts prove them wrong. sorry :shrug:

Facts> that your feelings
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1. blarrg
2. blaaarrrrrgggg
3. blarrrrrrggggggg
4. BLARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!


my apathy > your posts.
 
Re: What are women marching about?

AGENT J said:
1.) more opinion and ZERO facts, par for the course
2.) oh so you were there and you saw every sign? oh thats right you werent and didnt. once again ZERO facts to support your absurd claims
3.) repeating this proven wrong lie wont make it true.
4.) and more deflection,, failed insults, lies and tough guy routine that nobody buys from you. l We know again you WANT your feelings to matter and be taken seriously but they just arent when facts prove them wrong. sorry :shrug:

Facts> that your feelings
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The gift that keeps giving.
 
Re: What are women marching about?

ReverendHellh0und said:
1. blarrg
2. blaaarrrrrgggg
3. blarrrrrrggggggg
4. BLARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!


my apathy > your posts.
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Exactly, you have nothing intellectually honest or sound and logical merit to add to the thread. Thank you for further proving that fact. Please let us know when that changes and you have anything accurate and factual to support your routed and proven wrong claims, thanks!
 
Re: What are women marching about?

AGENT J said:
Exactly, you have nothing intellectually honest or sound and logical merit to add to the thread. Thank you for further proving that fact. Please let us know when that changes and you have anything accurate and factual to support your routed and proven wrong claims, thanks!
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Your posts are so hard to finish. they are such a bore.
 
Re: What are women marching about?

ReverendHellh0und said:
Your posts are so hard to finish. they are such a bore.
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Fact still remains your claims are wrong. Please let me know when you can factually prove otherwise. Thanks
 
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So a few women with signs are pissing off some of the Republicans and Cons in this thread. They see that and think that means all women who march and protest for what they believe in hate men.

I guess that means the next time Nazis, KKK and White supremacists march and protest and align themselves with the Republican party that all White male Republicans are racists.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
So you take something from a post that was posted AFTER you said what you did to try and make your case? One which fails btw.
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I took it from your post #10, which I responded to in post #25. 10 comes BEFORE 25


So you have to associate it to gender discrimination by saying its a "form" of gender discrimination. Funny. Whenever I talked about homosexuality I always referred to their sexuality. Not their gender. In fact I distinctly remember everyone (including me) specifically separating the two when arguing for their Rights and SSM.
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GLBTQs are discriminated against because they do not adhere to traditional gender roles - specifically, they have romantic or sexual relationships with people of the same gender. How you speak about the issue does not change this fact. It does not change the fact that their sexuality is defined by the gender of the people they have sex with.

You are certainly free to think and believe whatever you want, but so are the people involved in this march. Your ignorance of how womens rights and GLBT rights are related --because discrimination of both are based, at least in part, on the notion of traditional gender roles-- does not make that relationship disappear
 
Re: What are women marching about?

Kal'Stang said:
He sure implied it with the whole "white man willfully" BS now didn't he? How about you use your own arguments to fight your own battles instead of trying to score points using something in which you are applying incorrectly.
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And you sure implied that the Womens March was both not inclusive enough, and too inclusive and are attention whores

Or do you think you are the only one who can make inferences?
 
Re: What are women marching about?

Kal'Stang said:
So why didn't MLK call their protests Black March? Or African Americans United? Or something similar? Blacks were the ones that led the movement after all.

Calling this a "womans march" is imo doing a disservice to all the groups in there that have issues that have nothing to do with women. When a person hears "womens march" they're not going to think about immigration policies or disability rights or anything other than women's issues. Like abortion.

And I understand that in the view of the participants there is no appropriation going on but what about outside of the group? That is who these people are trying to target isn't it? The goal of any protest is to target those not in the group so that you can garner more people to your side so that you can get things changed to your way of thinking. Right? In order to do that you have to give a perception of what it is that you're about. Since this "women's march" isn't strictly about women...in fact most of the issues have nothing to do with women...then the perception that should be sent out is something neutral. Like the Civil Rights movement did 60 years ago. Otherwise people are going to get the wrong perception. BLM had the same problem. The perception of them, including their name, relegated them to being misunderstood and more often than not mocked.
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Kal, you know why MLK didn't get anywhere near using the word black in describing the Civil Rights Movement. Look what you just said about BLM. If someone is put off by the banner of the "Woman's March", it's because they aren't interested enough to find and read the mission statement:
The mission of Women’s March is to harness the political power of diverse women and their communities to create transformative social change. Women’s March is a women-led movement providing intersectional education on a diverse range of issues and creating entry points for new grassroots activists & organizers to engage in their local communities through trainings, outreach programs and events. Women’s March is committed to dismantling systems of oppression through nonviolent resistance and building inclusive structures guided by self-determination, dignity and respect.

The Women's March on Washington convened a broad and diverse group of leaders to produce an intersectional platform known as the Unity Principles. Representing a new understanding of the connected nature of our struggles and a vision of our collective liberation, the Unity Principles continue to be a guiding light for our movement.
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https://www.womensmarch.com/mission/

Then maybe they aren't interested in those goals in the first place and it's unnecessary to cater to their perception of "The Women's March". The organizers have opened the door to all comers (see above) and a diverse coalition has formed, in support of each other.

So far, the results are encouraging. The woman in my signature, one of many who decided to run after the Women's March of 2017, marched herself in 2017. She ran and won. As did other women in other states who drew strength from the March. This woman ran for a Atlantic County Freeholder after the man holding the seat mocked the 2017 march. She won.

Woman who ran after Atlantic County Freeholder mocked the Women's March knocks him off the board

Her speech at this year's march:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Ashley-Bennett-Women_s-March_New-York-470290513.html
 
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