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Trump's Wall and Vincente Fox.

Vetplus40

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I fail to see how Trump is upset that ONLY 1.4 BILLION was offered in the Graham/Durbin proposal for his wall. Isn't this the same wall that Trump promised his voters that the Mexican Government was going to pay for?

Here is a recent tweet from Vincente Fox on Trump's continuing claim that Mexico will indeed pay for the wall.

@realDonaldTrump wow! It’s been a year since you took over, and to celebrate: you have the lowest approval rating of all time, under constant investigation and a partial shutdown. That can’t be faked, can’t be crooked. Keep up the tweeting, because I’ll be there to make a stand!
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Vetplus40 said:
I fail to see how Trump is upset that ONLY 1.4 BILLION was offered in the Graham/Durbin proposal for his wall. Isn't this the same wall that Trump promised his voters that the Mexican Government was going to pay for?

Here is a recent tweet from Vincente Fox on Trump's continuing claim that Mexico will indeed pay for the wall.

@realDonaldTrump wow! It’s been a year since you took over, and to celebrate: you have the lowest approval rating of all time, under constant investigation and a partial shutdown. That can’t be faked, can’t be crooked. Keep up the tweeting, because I’ll be there to make a stand!
12 hours ago · Twitter
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Explain to me why anyone should care what Vicente Fox has to say about anything. How many fled his country to ours during his reign of incompetence and corruption?
 
Vetplus40 said:
I fail to see how Trump is upset that ONLY 1.4 BILLION was offered in the Graham/Durbin proposal for his wall. Isn't this the same wall that Trump promised his voters that the Mexican Government was going to pay for?

Here is a recent tweet from Vincente Fox on Trump's continuing claim that Mexico will indeed pay for the wall.

@realDonaldTrump wow! It’s been a year since you took over, and to celebrate: you have the lowest approval rating of all time, under constant investigation and a partial shutdown. That can’t be faked, can’t be crooked. Keep up the tweeting, because I’ll be there to make a stand!
12 hours ago · Twitter
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Build the wall!
Ain't gonna happen.
Lock her up!
Ain't gonna happen.
Repeal and replace!
Ain't gonna happen.
What's left? What else was gonna happen on Day 1?
 
Fletch said:
Explain to me why anyone should care what Vicente Fox has to say about anything. How many fled his country to ours during his reign of incompetence and corruption?
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Explain to me why you have no objection to somebody (Trump) pissing down your leg and telling you its raining? Do you REALLKY think that Mexico will EVER pay for the wall?
 
Fletch said:
Explain to me why anyone should care what Vicente Fox has to say about anything. How many fled his country to ours during his reign of incompetence and corruption?
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Is that a thing? How many fled from there to there?
Hundreds of people have fled the US into Canada, thousands maybe, lots coming overland into Manitoba in winter with severe frost injuries that cost them fingers. Does that mean anything, is that a thing?
 
Vetplus40 said:
I fail to see how Trump is upset that ONLY 1.4 BILLION was offered in the Graham/Durbin proposal for his wall. Isn't this the same wall that Trump promised his voters that the Mexican Government was going to pay for?

Here is a recent tweet from Vincente Fox on Trump's continuing claim that Mexico will indeed pay for the wall.

@realDonaldTrump wow! It’s been a year since you took over, and to celebrate: you have the lowest approval rating of all time, under constant investigation and a partial shutdown. That can’t be faked, can’t be crooked. Keep up the tweeting, because I’ll be there to make a stand!
12 hours ago · Twitter
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I have followed him on Twitter for a few months now. He's pretty funny when he goes after Trump, and starts swearing about how Mexico is not going to pay for the wall.
 
Grand Mal said:
Build the wall!
Ain't gonna happen.
Lock her up!
Ain't gonna happen.
Repeal and replace!
Ain't gonna happen.
What's left? What else was gonna happen on Day 1?
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Wasn't ISIS on Day 1, too? Or did he give himself 30 days for that?
 
Superfly said:
I have followed him on Twitter for a few months now. He's pretty funny when he goes after Trump, and starts swearing about how Mexico is not going to pay for the wall.
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We totally cut off aid to Mexico and see what kind of cussin' he does.
 
apdst said:
We totally cut off aid to Mexico and see what kind of cussin' he does.
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Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah blah.
You know yourself none of that sh*t is gonna happen. There'll be no wall, there'll be the usual pap fed to the masses about cracking down and it'll be business as usual for the wealthy, influential people who make big bucks off cheap labour.
That's what's gonna happen. Take it to the bank.
 
Grand Mal said:
Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah blah.
You know yourself none of that sh*t is gonna happen. There'll be no wall, there'll be the usual pap fed to the masses about cracking down and it'll be business as usual for the wealthy, influential people who make big bucks off cheap labour.
That's what's gonna happen. Take it to the bank.
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You said Mr. Trump wouldn't be president. How did that work out for you? :lamo
 
Fletch said:
Explain to me why anyone should care what Vicente Fox has to say about anything. How many fled his country to ours during his reign of incompetence and corruption?
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I think most Mexicans would agree with his position that Mexico should not put one cent towards the wall.

Mexico will not pay for the wall, unless the US uses illegal extortion and threatens to nuke Mexico City or something, but frankly all this "Mexico will pay for the wall" idea is posturing and no one has come up for a good reason why Mexico will pay for the wall.
 
apdst said:
We totally cut off aid to Mexico and see what kind of cussin' he does.
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Does the US send Mexico enough aid money that cutting it off would make Mexico would want to pay for a 20 billion dollar wall and future upkeep on the wall?

I doubt it, otherwise Trump would use that money to build the wall. Why would Mexico pay for the wall?
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Ya got me! :) But Mr Fox can sure cuss like 7 drunken sailors, 3 sheets to the wind.

Not that it bothers me, but...View attachment 67227403
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I am the last person to tell someone whether or not they should swear. I swear so much I embarrass my teenagers. That being said, I'm not the president, either. Certain jobs and titles require class and decorum.
 
Yes_Minister said:
Does the US send Mexico enough aid money that cutting it off would make Mexico would want to pay for a 20 billion dollar wall and future upkeep on the wall?

I doubt it, otherwise Trump would use that money to build the wall. Why would Mexico pay for the wall?
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I bet we send Mexico enough money that if we cut them off, they would sing a different tune.
 
apdst said:
You said Mr. Trump wouldn't be president. How did that work out for you? :lamo
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I did? Yeah, I might well have. That's neither here nor there now, though. Your boy Trump employs immigrants at his golf resort . Your Republican government will have to slide past the whole issue for the sake of their big donators and like always, like the past umpteen years, nothing will be done. You watch. Those bottom lines are more important than your sense of right and wrong.
 
Superfly said:
I am the last person to tell someone whether or not they should swear. I swear so much I embarrass my teenagers. That being said, I'm not the president, either. Certain jobs and titles require class and decorum.
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I swear a lot myself.

My mother never used to swear when I was a kid, but when I got into my teens she let it all out! She uses the f-word like the word 'the' in conversations.
 
apdst said:
I bet we send Mexico enough money that if we cut them off, they would sing a different tune.
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And pay for a 20 billion dollar wall and its future upkeep, how do you figure that?

The US would have to send a lot aid to convince Mexico to change its tune on this issue and if the US did send that much aid, Trump could use that to build the wall, so clearly the aid the US sends is not equal to cost of the wall, so that threat would not make Mexico pay for the wall.

If you want this wall, US tax money will have to pay for it. Canada can't bill the US for random infrastructure projects, why do you think the US can bill Mexico for this wall? If really want this wall, you should be willing to pay for it and ask if its worth the cost.
 
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Vetplus40 said:
I fail to see how Trump is upset that ONLY 1.4 BILLION was offered in the Graham/Durbin proposal for his wall. Isn't this the same wall that Trump promised his voters that the Mexican Government was going to pay for?

Here is a recent tweet from Vincente Fox on Trump's continuing claim that Mexico will indeed pay for the wall.

@realDonaldTrump wow! It’s been a year since you took over, and to celebrate: you have the lowest approval rating of all time, under constant investigation and a partial shutdown. That can’t be faked, can’t be crooked. Keep up the tweeting, because I’ll be there to make a stand!
12 hours ago · Twitter
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https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/LEGIHEDTOA6NDOIQTCSR3GWVYE.jpg

Graph shows several Presidents that had lower approval rating at points in their presidency
 
Fletch said:
Explain to me why anyone should care what Vicente Fox has to say about anything. How many fled his country to ours during his reign of incompetence and corruption?
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Please, don't concern yourself with this in the least.

It is of no consequence in terms of the relationship of Mexicans and Americans. Trump can post all the anti-Mexican **** he wants, and so can "Vince."

Just as it is of no consequence to you that 100,000 Canadian women marched on Parliament Hill to protest Trump's inauguration, being despised by both neighbors is likely within the Trump fantasy world's comfort zone anyway.

You people sure do have a lot of hate to go around.
 
Vetplus40 said:
I fail to see how Trump is upset that ONLY 1.4 BILLION was offered in the Graham/Durbin proposal for his wall. Isn't this the same wall that Trump promised his voters that the Mexican Government was going to pay for?

Here is a recent tweet from Vincente Fox on Trump's continuing claim that Mexico will indeed pay for the wall.

@realDonaldTrump wow! It’s been a year since you took over, and to celebrate: you have the lowest approval rating of all time, under constant investigation and a partial shutdown. That can’t be faked, can’t be crooked. Keep up the tweeting, because I’ll be there to make a stand!
12 hours ago · Twitter
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Vinnie Fox left office in 2006, under a cloud of corruption. Does anyone in Mexico pay attention to 76 yr old elitist Fox? Last year he was picked up in a raid for a child sex ring, and allowed to walk because of his former position in the gov't. Had that happened here, you'd be screaming for his head on a platter. When he was in office, he had a gorgeous 15 year old mistress. Kept him invigorated. Mexico approved and admired that aspect of his personal life.

Yup, Fox is a guy whose opinion matters. :lmao

If only his amours de coeur had mustaches.
 
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