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Obama's use of curse words [W:117]

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This is actually a very funny show. In this episode, you can hear obama talk about how they curse, and use foul language in meetings. I know some of you are over sensetive to the idea of trump using foul language. perhaps hearing that one of your idols do it while suggesting many world leaders are insane will give you guys some peace. :peace



A very beautiful car as well.


It's not foul language people find objectionable. It's Trump's comparing black and brown people (in Haiti and African countries) to white people (in Norway) and calling the former "****hole" countries. But I think you know that. Nice try, though.
 
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It's not foul language people find objectionable. It's Trump's comparing black and brown people (in Haiti and African countries) to white people (in Norway) and calling the former "****hole" countries. But I think you know that. Nice try, though.


Oh that fake charges of racism. The former are ****hole countries, he had just met with the norway pm.


if you had to move to one, haiti or mexico, which would you move to? IF you choose norway are you a racist?
 
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Oh that fake charges of racism. The former are ****hole countries, he had just met with the norway pm.


if you had to move to one, haiti or mexico, which would you move to? IF you choose norway are you a racist?

Keep at it, you might even convince yourself!
 
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I literally said "the difference is" in the post you quoted. /facepalm

You're argument: Obama curses. Trump calling third world countries sh**holes is cursing. Obama and Trump did the same thing.

False equivalence

A common way for this fallacy to be perpetuated is one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result

The shared trait you're pointing to is cursing. But not all curse words are insults. If I say, "this f-n sucks" it's not an insult.

Trump used a curse word to insult the homes of billions of people. When did Obama do the same?
 
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I would agree with you if Trump did a speech and outright said, XXX country is a ****hole....

but he didn't... it was an internal meeting discussing topics in private to the public. And only unethical reporters and unethical people would try to make this a big deal. All it does is intentionally hurt the US and the President's image. That is the whole point of this story.

Why publish this story? When the very act of publishing the story is what will damage the reputation of the president and the country? The publishing of the story does the very thing it tries to portray it's preventing. I bet there is a lot of flippent language behind closed doors in all aspects of our government, from the military onwards that if it was presented to the public as if it was some kind of public announcement would of course be inappropriate.

The President should be a able to speak plainly in confidence among his own fellow American statesmen so that his words do not leak out of context to intentionally damage the reputation of the United States.

What if President Obama had an internal spat about some random Prime Minister in Europe that was meant to be closed conversation? And then there were a few of his fellow American snakes in the room that chose to use this story to cause the US to lose an important ally?
Who's it on, the unethical publishing of the story or the President himself? With absolutely no allegiance to the United States, no proper context of the statement, no thought of the consequences other than trying to sabotage the sitting president and in turn the USA itself

...I think it's on the unethical publishing of the story and those intentionally using international media to hurt the reputation of the President.

There's is a difference if there was some kind of conspiracy that the President was a part of, and the media is trying to expose it for the greater good.... but this is actually taking an actual truth(these countries are ****holes) in closed conversation, meant for closed conversation, and taking advantage of the non-PC, direct atmosphere for political sabotage.

Apparently the only person who was at the meeting that heard the remark as presented was Durban, but we all know he would never tell a lie, so it must be true.

If anyone is responsible for this being an international incident it wasn't President Trump.
 
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Apparently the only person who was at the meeting that heard the remark as presented was Durban, but we all know he would never tell a lie, so it must be true.

If anyone is responsible for this being an international incident it wasn't President Trump.

I'm curious, who are you talking to?

You know Trump said it. I know Trump said it. Everyone knows Trump said it. So, who are you trying to convince? You're just making a fool of yourself.
 
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I literally said "the difference is" in the post you quoted. /facepalm

And my position is that you missed the point, and the only difference is not that one was leaked and the other one wasn't. You seem far too focused on the swearing part of all of this.
 
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I'm curious, who are you talking to?

You know Trump said it. I know Trump said it. Everyone knows Trump said it. So, who are you trying to convince? You're just making a fool of yourself.

I don't know President Trump said it. I know Durban said he said it. That's about it.

It wouldn't bother me if he did.
 
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I don't know President Trump said it. I know Durban said he said it. That's about it.

It wouldn't bother me if he did.

Give me a break. You know he said it. You just don't want to admit he said it.

Is it really shocking that the same guy who made fun of a disabled man also insults the poorest of the poor?

Trump is a terrible person. He cheats on his wife with porn stars, he steals money from his son's cancer charity. He's a billionaire who feels the need to con regular people out of thousands with a fake Trump University. Trump is a terrible person and poor representative for our nation.
 
Re: Obama's use of curse words

This is actually a very funny show. In this episode, you can hear obama talk about how they curse, and use foul language in meetings. I know some of you are over sensetive to the idea of trump using foul language. perhaps hearing that one of your idols do it while suggesting many world leaders are insane will give you guys some peace. :peace

I don't mind that he curses. Hell, I don't even really care if he uses disparaging terms for other countries or the like. What I DO care about, and what is distinctly different than Obama, is his JUDGEMENT as it relates to when, where, and in what company to use these things.

Notice we're hearing about Obama's cursing in meetings from...OBAMA. He's admitting this on a comedy show with a comedian, himself. He had the necessary judgement and judge of character, which is saying something given this was one of my issue with him early on, to recognize with what company he could potentially speak in such a way without it being disseminated out in a way that would either be problematic or embarrassing for him, his administration, of the Presidency.

Trump, on the other hand, showed inept judgement and judge of character, seemingly showing no regard nor care for those he was speaking in such ways around. And thus, because of his poor judgement, it inevitably leaks, causing issues with other nations and being a negative dragging issue on his administration and diplomatic relations as well as the stature of the Presidency.
 
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I don't mind that he curses. Hell, I don't even really care if he uses disparaging terms for other countries or the like. What I DO care about, and what is distinctly different than Obama, is his JUDGEMENT as it relates to when, where, and in what company to use these things.


On this I 100% agree. Though it's different personalities.

Notice we're hearing about Obama's cursing in meetings from...OBAMA. He's admitting this on a comedy show with a comedian, himself. He had the necessary judgement and judge of character, which is saying something given this was one of my issue with him early on, to recognize with what company he could potentially speak in such a way without it being disseminated out in a way that would either be problematic or embarrassing for him, his administration, of the Presidency.

Trump, on the other hand, showed inept judgement and judge of character, seemingly showing no regard nor care for those he was speaking in such ways around. And thus, because of his poor judgement, it inevitably leaks, causing issues with other nations and being a negative dragging issue on his administration and diplomatic relations as well as the stature of the Presidency.


I don't disagree with this either. The point I am making, is that this stuff is said, it's admitted to and this meeting was a private meeting that it was leaked that he spoke like this. I think that's where my issue is. My issue also is the constant overblowing of each and every incident involving trump which dilutes when he does something truly regrettable. the "ah ha gotcha" press latches onto anything and everything blowing things up they NEVER would do so with the last guy, and people think this is ok.

There are two actors here who are not behaving well, POTUS and the Press. to deny either is, is partisan folly.
 
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And my position is that you missed the point, and the only difference is not that one was leaked and the other one wasn't. You seem far too focused on the swearing part of all of this.



I'm not. that's something you folks made up. The title was simplistic, I forget my audience sometimes. They tend to latch onto any "gotcha" they can.
 
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You're argument: Obama curses. Trump calling third world countries sh**holes is cursing. Obama and Trump did the same thing.

False equivalence



The shared trait you're pointing to is cursing. But not all curse words are insults. If I say, "this f-n sucks" it's not an insult.

Trump used a curse word to insult the homes of billions of people. When did Obama do the same?




Trump has said mean things about people and places in private, so did obama. the difference is a democrat leaked and you guys got all upset.
 
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I don't care about how nice the term is. That is so far from the issue it is in a completely different galaxy. The issue is that Trump seemed confused as to why we allow people to immigrate to the United States from countries that are considered ****holes. That flies in the face of the history of this country. Every single mass immigration to this country came from countries that were probably considered ****holes at the time. We didn't turn them away, and they in fact helped to build the most powerful country on the planet. I am more than happy to just chalk this up to another dumbass thing Trump said, but the way his fans are contorting over this is just insane.

I totally get that, but let's not pretend that politicians are saints. In the end the effects and results from the Trump administration will make all of this even more transparent, and that's a good thing.
 
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Give me a break. You know he said it. You just don't want to admit he said it.

Is it really shocking that the same guy who made fun of a disabled man also insults the poorest of the poor?

Trump is a terrible person. He cheats on his wife with porn stars, he steals money from his son's cancer charity. He's a billionaire who feels the need to con regular people out of thousands with a fake Trump University. Trump is a terrible person and poor representative for our nation.

I don't know he said it.

The rest of your post is irrelevant and inaccurate.
 
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Trump has said mean things about people and places in private, so did obama. the difference is a democrat leaked and you guys got all upset.

False equivalence.

Your response indicates you didn't understand what I said. It seems you're incapable of having an intelligent conversation. All you do is repeat yourself.
 
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I'm not. that's something you folks made up. The title was simplistic, I forget my audience sometimes. They tend to latch onto any "gotcha" they can.

You seem singularly focused on the cuss word. Here is the quote with ****hole edited out. See if you can find why people may be upset. "Why are we having all these people from impoverished countries come here?" Do you see the problem? If you think using "impoverished" is unfair substitute it for another word and see if that changes anything.
 
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You seem singularly focused on the cuss word. Here is the quote with ****hole edited out. See if you can find why people may be upset. "Why are we having all these people from impoverished countries come here?" Do you see the problem? If you think using "impoverished" is unfair substitute it for another word and see if that changes anything.



And we are done talking. I can't say I am not enough times. if you want to force me to depend a position I don't have you will have to do it alone.
 
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False equivalence.

Your response indicates you didn't understand what I said. It seems you're incapable of having an intelligent conversation. All you do is repeat yourself.



If you think I am not having an "intelligent conversation" Perhaps it's because I am dumbing myself down to your level.
 
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Another dumb ****ing post. Anything on the topic or is The Good Reverend all you can fantasize about?

You cried when I posted on the topic. When you are unable to refute what people say, you cry about how unfair they are to say it.
 
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You cried when I posted on the topic. When you are unable to refute what people say, you cry about how unfair they are to say it.



You didn't you did your typical personal attack. Internet bully cause well it's the internet, and you can. What are you talking about with fairness? I don't understand what your tantrum is over.



Face it, if you start a thread, you don't offer an opinion and you run around trolling threads for persona comments against people you have an axe to grind with. your posts are probably some of the most pathetic here at DP. kudos to you.


Now anything on the topic, or are you still thinking about me, dress?
 
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You didn't you did your typical personal attack. Internet bully cause well it's the internet, and you can. What are you talking about with fairness? I don't understand what your tantrum is over.



Face it, if you start a thread, you don't offer an opinion and you run around trolling threads for persona comments against people you have an axe to grind with. your posts are probably some of the most pathetic here at DP. kudos to you.


Now anything on the topic, or are you still thinking about me, dress?

I did not attack you, I attacked your post. I have not called you names(unlike you), I have posted on the topic, and you have yet to be able to refute what I said. All you have managed is to attack me, and try and blame me for your attacks. Well done!
 
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I did not attack you, I attacked your post. I have not called you names(unlike you), I have posted on the topic, and you have yet to be able to refute what I said. All you have managed is to attack me, and try and blame me for your attacks. Well done!




Cool you can talk to yourself now. I don't find you worthy of my time. bye.
 
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Cool you can talk to yourself now. I don't find you worthy of my time. bye.

Running away again? You do that alot when you cannot refute what is said...
 
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