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Trump and yet another porn star?

truthatallcost said:
Democrats Very Different Responses:

Bill Clinton chased women- "you go Bill, you old horn-dog! woo!"

Donald Trump chased women- "disgusting! we need a president who doesn't treat women like sex objects!"

:shrug:
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Instead of more whataboutism, how about you give your opinion ? How do you feel about these allegations ? How do you feel about Bill Clinton's sexual misconduct ? Would you hold Trump to the same standard of Clinton if you had objective proof Trump was a pervert ?
 
truthatallcost said:
Democrats Very Different Responses:

Bill Clinton chased women- "you go Bill, you old horn-dog! woo!"

Donald Trump chased women- "disgusting! we need a president who doesn't treat women like sex objects!"

:shrug:
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20 years of the feminists changing the rules has taken place.
 
truthatallcost said:
Democrats Very Different Responses:

Bill Clinton chased women- "you go Bill, you old horn-dog! woo!"

Donald Trump chased women- "disgusting! we need a president who doesn't treat women like sex objects!"

:shrug:
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Republicans Very Different Responses:

Donald Trump chased women- "you go Trump, you old horn-dog! woo!"

Bill Clinton chased women- "disgusting! we need a president who doesn't treat women like sex objects!"

:shrug:
 
Cisero said:
Instead of more whataboutism, how about you give your opinion ? How do you feel about these allegations ? How do you feel about Bill Clinton's sexual misconduct ? Would you hold Trump to the same standard of Clinton if you had objective proof Trump was a pervert ?
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Let's stick with the OP for a second, if you will.

A porn star says Trump didn't have sex with her 12 years ago. Who but the most pious among us, would really care about this?

Now, for your questions:
1. Clinton's misconduct was documented. I believe he raped Broadderick, and the Paula Jones case isn't disputable. He also tried to get a young woman to commit perjury, to cover up his acts.

2. If Trump raped one of his volunteers like Clinton did, then he's unfit for office. Many of his former accusers have recanted, or stopped seeking publicity. I believe he's a magnet for people to lie about, because he's not polished like most politicians.
 
Praxas said:
Republicans Very Different Responses:

Donald Trump chased women- "you go Trump, you old horn-dog! woo!"

Bill Clinton chased women- "disgusting! we need a president who doesn't treat women like sex objects!"

:shrug:
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But what is the libertarian response?
 
Cisero said:
Instead of more whataboutism, how about you give your opinion ? How do you feel about these allegations ? How do you feel about Bill Clinton's sexual misconduct ? Would you hold Trump to the same standard of Clinton if you had objective proof Trump was a pervert ?
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What's perverted about forking hookers?
 
haymarket said:
And this is the guy who when the specter of urinating hookers in Moscow was raised he offered the defense that he could not have participated because he was a germaphobe.

Sure thing. He seems up for jumping aboard any train that moved.
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Gobbling up all those juicy details ain't ya Haymarket? Lol, beats MSNBC right now.
 
truthatallcost said:
But what is the libertarian response?
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Depends on if the libertarian is right or left leaning. Libertarians are for less government but that doesn't mean they aren't allowed to have opinions and yes, sometimes those STILL fall along partisan lines.
 
truthatallcost said:
Let's stick with the OP for a second, if you will.
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Didn't you bring up the Clinton's and the double standards of democrats ?

A porn star says Trump didn't have sex with her 12 years ago. Who but the most pious among us, would really care about this?

Now, for your questions:
1. Clinton's misconduct was documented. I believe he raped Broadderick, and the Paula Jones case isn't disputable. He also tried to get a young woman to commit perjury, to cover up his acts.

2. If Trump raped one of his volunteers like Clinton did, then he's unfit for office. Many of his former accusers have recanted, or stopped seeking publicity. I believe he's a magnet for people to lie about, because he's not polished like most politicians.
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1) Indeed, I believe Clinton is a sexual predator. His public apology about Lewinski, his attitude towards women and the multitude of allegations on his behalf seem to concord with my belief. However, he has never been convicted of rape. The Jones case has been dismissed and Broadderick's accusations never amounted to anything else than terrible press. He was never convicted. Maybe cause he was innocent, or maybe because he has friends in positions of power (which would be more likely, imho). However, I have no inside information and can not assess whether any of these stories are true.

2) If you believe Clinton was unfit for office because of allegations that have never led to any convictions, than you must also believe so with Trump.

Personally, I don't think accusations of sexual misconduct should be this highly covered in the press. As long as we don't have a ruling, we don't have any leg to stand on. It's all hearsay. I can think of a million reasons why someone would want to smear a high ranking politician. In an ideal world, people would accuse someone of rape, the police would dig up evidence, the accused would have a fair trial and the ruling will be accepted. However, the two party system and the fact that money is so involved in modern politics has most certainly increased the likelihoods of corruption. Again, if you think the judges ruling was unfair, you have to prove there was corruption in the first place.

It's complicated.

In short : Trump or Clinton, allegations should be heard and, if there is enough evidence, a trial should take place. Only a thorough investigation and an honest trial can show us if these claims are true or false.
 
Mycroft said:
What's perverted about forking hookers?
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Thought you cons always considered cheating as perverted. I guess since it is a Republican involved, you are cool with it.
 
truthatallcost said:
Let's stick with the OP for a second, if you will.

A porn star says Trump didn't have sex with her 12 years ago. Who but the most pious among us, would really care about this?

Now, for your questions:
1. Clinton's misconduct was documented. I believe he raped Broadderick, and the Paula Jones case isn't disputable. He also tried to get a young woman to commit perjury, to cover up his acts.

2. If Trump raped one of his volunteers like Clinton did, then he's unfit for office. Many of his former accusers have recanted, or stopped seeking publicity. I believe he's a magnet for people to lie about, because he's not polished like most politicians.
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I believe Trump raped women. You don't. So what makes your opinion more valid than mine?
 
Praxas said:
Thought you cons always considered cheating as perverted. I guess since it is a Republican involved, you are cool with it.
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I don't know about "you cons", but I've never considered employing hookers to be perverted. Perhaps you have a differing standard on what perversion is. shrug...
 
Mycroft said:
What's perverted about forking hookers?
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If you believe in monogamous relationships and the sanctity of marriage, a married man inviting two porn stars to a threesome is most definitely sexual perversion.
 
Cisero said:
If you believe in monogamous relationships and the sanctity of marriage, a married man inviting two porn stars to a threesome is most definitely sexual perversion.
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shrug...

Let me know when he does that in the Oval Office...and when he lies to a court of law about it.

Until then...meh.
 
Cisero said:
If you believe in monogamous relationships and the sanctity of marriage, a married man inviting two porn stars to a threesome is most definitely sexual perversion.
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Yes but were is the proof that any of that happened? Do you actually believe that story the porn stat tells, over the word of the President? Don't answer that, we already know the answer... When Clinton was out there raping and pillaging any woman who he cared to, you were SILENT.... Weren't you?
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Yes but were is the proof that any of that happened? Do you actually believe that story the porn stat tells, over the word of the President? Don't answer that, we already know the answer... When Clinton was out there raping and pillaging any woman who he cared to, you were SILENT.... Weren't you?
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When Clinton was last accused of rape, I was 7 years old.

Also, I basically admitted in my post I felt Clinton was a sexual deviant. Sticking a cigar tube in your intern's privates, being sucked off in the goddamn Oval office before returning to bed with your wife definitely is major ass sexual perversion. If you feel I have a double standard regarding Clinton / Trump, I invite you to find a single comment that proves so.

Until then, stop trying to act like everybody is a hyper-partisan cheerleader.
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

Let me know when he does that in the Oval Office...and when he lies to a court of law about it.

Until then...meh.
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Agreed, let's wait for a ruling before any rash name calling. However, hypothetically, if he did propose a threesome to two pornstars and he was married, that is perversion.
 
Mycroft said:
I don't know about "you cons", but I've never considered employing hookers to be perverted. Perhaps you have a differing standard on what perversion is. shrug...
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He is accused of doing it when he was married. So you don’t think clinton and trump are perverted for cheating on their spouses, good to know.
 
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