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I think that I may know what the "Wall" will actually be.

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Okay, let clear up something first. The "Wall" was not something that Trump was passionate about. We all know that he isn't an ideologue by any stretch of the imagination. Early in his campaign he was given data from some focus groups that told him what issues might play well within the voting demographic he was focusing on. The "Wall" was simply one of them. This issue in particular played on the "fear" that unskilled American workers were losing jobs to cheap Mexican labor and Trump decided to capitalize on it.

In the beginning, the "Wall" was going to be this big and beautiful structure. In fact, early on Trump himself said that it will be a great wall, nobody would build a better wall than him and Mexico would pay for it. As most remember, that comment would bring cheers from the raucous crowds attending his rallies. Unfortunately, what this showed was that the overwhelming majority of his supporters were both gullible and politically uneducated. Simply put, Mexico is a sovereign nation and we cannot force them to pay for anything that we build. This point was validated by both the current and former Mexican President's who both said Mexico isn't paying for your wall- with the former President actually adding the "F" bomb in his response. In addition, if Mexico did agree to pay for it, they would have to borrow the money from us to do it. As such, any thoughts or hopes of Mexico paying for this wall (whatever it turns out to be) is over. Time to move on.

Once the campaign got into full swing, Trump would venture into more moderate geographical areas. These are the "nose-holding" Trump supporters that were not sold on the idea of a big physical wall. To this group, Trump's comments were slightly altered to refer to the wall in more of a "figurative" context instead of a "literal" one. To these folks, the "Wall" was described as being like more elaborate fencing to along with the natural terrain (river, mountains, etc.), enhanced electronic measures, more border agents, etc. These conflicting descriptions occurred more and more often depending on what crowd Trump was speaking to. As such, the actual definition of the "Wall" has been bounced back and forth between figurative, literal descriptions and has never been consistently defined as to what it will actually be.

So what will the "Wall" actually be? Simple. It will be whatever Trump can get an agreement on. More than anything else (with the exception of making even more money) Trump badly wants an accomplishment of sorts. Then, he can boast about keeping another campaign promise and he will simply tell his base that whatever the final product is, that is EXACTLY what he ALWAYS said it would be. As with anything else Trump says, they will simply nod their collective heads in agreement and be totally satisfied with the "Great Wall of Mexico" that they never will get.
 
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Okay, let clear up something first. The "Wall" was not something that Trump was passionate about. We all know that he isn't an ideologue by any stretch of the imagination. Early in his campaign he was given data from some focus groups that told him what issues might play well within the voting demographic he was focusing on. The "Wall" was simply one of them. This issue in particular played on the "fear" that unskilled American workers were losing jobs to cheap Mexican labor and Trump decided to capitalize on it.

In the beginning, the "Wall" was going to be this big and beautiful structure. In fact, early on Trump himself said that it will be a great wall, nobody would build a better wall than him and Mexico would pay for it. As most remember, that comment would bring cheers from the raucous crowds attending his rallies. Unfortunately, what this showed was that the overwhelming majority of his supporters were both gullible and politically uneducated. Simply put, Mexico is a sovereign nation and we cannot force them to pay for anything that we build. This point was validated by both the current and former Mexican President's who both said Mexico isn't paying for your wall- with the former President actually adding the "F" bomb in his response. In addition, if Mexico did agree to pay for it, they would have to borrow the money from us to do it. As such, any thoughts or hopes of Mexico paying for this wall (whatever it turns out to be) is over. Time to move on.

Once the campaign got into full swing, Trump would venture into more moderate geographical areas. These are the "nose-holding" Trump supporters that were not sold on the idea of a big physical wall. To this group, Trump's comments were slightly altered to refer to the wall in more of a "figurative" context instead of a "literal" one. To these folks, the "Wall" was described as being like more elaborate fencing to along with the natural terrain (river, mountains, etc.), enhanced electronic measures, more border agents, etc. These conflicting descriptions occurred more and more often depending on what crowd Trump was speaking to. As such, the actual definition of the "Wall" has been bounced back and forth between figurative, literal descriptions and has never been consistently defined as to what it will actually be.

So what will the "Wall" actually be? Simple. It will be whatever Trump can get an agreement on. More than anything else (with the exception of making even more money) Trump badly wants an accomplishment of sorts. Then, he can boast about keeping another campaign promise and he will simply tell his base that whatever the final product is, that is EXACTLY what he ALWAYS said it would be. As with anything else Trump says, they will simply nod their collective heads in agreement and be totally satisfied with the "Great Wall of Mexico" that they never will get.

I truly fail to see where this thread could possibly go from here.

So what will the "Wall" actually be? Simple. It will be whatever Trump can get an agreement on.

Isn't that... a little obvious ?
 
I truly fail to see where this thread could possibly go from here.



Isn't that... a little obvious ?

I think he kind of talked himself into a circle, until even he lost what kind of a point was supposed to be made.

That and we can obviously see him pulling at least one, baled faced lie out of thin air.
This issue in particular played on the "fear" that unskilled American workers were losing jobs to cheap Mexican labor

I guess he entirely missed the illegal immigration sections of the campaign trail speeches.
 
I think he kind of talked himself into a circle, until even he lost what kind of a point was supposed to be made.

That and we can obviously see him pulling at least one, baled faced lie out of thin air.


I guess he entirely missed the illegal immigration sections of the campaign trail speeches.

An obvious Trump supporter commenting on anyone lying is humorous in and of itself. That said, tell me what part did you not understand and I will try to see if I can clarify........:)
 
So what will the "Wall" actually be? Simple. It will be whatever Trump can get an agreement on.

When you get right down to it, the bulk of your post is error-ridden, anti-Trump bias induced twaddle. This little bit is the only thing worth responding to...so I snipped the twaddle. I hope you aren't offended.

So...on to your "little bit".

Well, of course it'll be whatever Trump can get an agreement on. That's a no-brainer and hardly deserves mention.

Anything Trump wants to do that depends on Congress will then depend upon whether he can get them to agree with it and how much he gets them to agree with it. That's just how it works. That's how it has worked for EVERY President.

But, you know, it works the other way around, as well. Anything Congress wants to do depends upon whether they can get Trump to agree with it and how much they get him to agree with. (a veto override may come into play, as well)

That's the beauty of our Constitution at work.
 
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when you get right down to it, the bulk of your post is error-ridden, anti-trump bias induced twaddle. This little bit is the only thing worth responding to...so i snipped the twaddle. I hope you aren't offended.

So...on to your "little bit".

Well, of course it'll be whatever trump can get an agreement on. That's a no-brainer and hardly deserves mention.

Anything trump wants to do that depends on congress will then depend upon whether he can get them to agree with it and how much he gets them to agree with it. That's just how it works. That's how it has worked for every president.

But, you know, it works the other way around, as well. Anything congress wants to do depends upon whether they can get trump to agree with it and how much they get him to agree with.

That's the beauty of our constitution at work.

Feel free to point out my errors, but don't waste my time with your bull**** "fake news" crap. I likely read and study the current political landscape a significantly greater amount of time than you do. In fact, I used to get paid to do so.:) That said, you seem to have immense trouble with the concept of lying, hypocrisy and personal responsibility. Then again, you are a Conservative Trump supporter so that sorts explains it. Carry on with your Trump defending attempts at "illogical" logic. It makes for great humor.
 
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An obvious Trump supporter commenting on anyone lying is humorous in and of itself. That said, tell me what part did you not understand and I will try to see if I can clarify........:)

Seeing as you mainly used your post to somehow slap it to Trump supporters, even though you mainly failed. You ended it with the suggestion that this wall was going to be something entirely different than an actual wall... even though they are currently working on plans with a physical wall at this moment...

Frankly I am just tired of seeing this sort of crap pop up now and again, seeing as it only sparks a small laugh at best and your only response to most opposition on this topic is going to be the usual "Oh look, a Trump supporter" shtick.
You are actually trying to force onto us, this belief you have. That this wall is something, that we already know it is not.

No need for you to attempt clarifying, in the very least.
 
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