MLK was right.

MLK seems to get a lot of credit for peaceful resistance. I hear a lot of right-wingers talk about his use of non-violence as if that's something modern so-called "civil rights" leaders are lacking. They point to the tactics that modern civil-rights leader use as evidence that they're bad people. As if the way in which they fight back has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not they are right or wrong.

MLK was right. African Americans were being treated like ****. They still are. And they have every right in the world to be incredibly ****ing pissed off about it. Why is it their responsibility to try and be as nice as they possibly can while convincing you that you're a piece of **** racist? Why do you need to see peaceful African Americans being knocked down by fire hoses and have police send their dogs after them for you to acknowledge an obvious truth?

If so many white people from the past could so easily deny an obvious truth and require a man to basically martyr himself before they woke up, why is it so difficult to accept the possibility that maybe, just maybe we're still not there yet? How can you still look at the fact that between 85 and 90% of African Americans consistantly vote Democrat, and assume that basically the entire race is just wrong about the modern Republican party? If you really believe that 90% of an entire race is just to stupid to knwo what's in their own best interest what does that tell us about your personal perception of that race?

Simply put, this country elected a racist to the Office of the President. It is a very sad day indeed when instead of attending MLK celebratory functions, our POTUS spent the day golfing and denying claims that he is in fact a racist.

No wonder David Duke is thrilled with the Trump presidency.

MrWonka said:

MLK seems to get a lot of credit for peaceful resistance. I hear a lot of right-wingers talk about his use of non-violence as if that's something modern so-called "civil rights" leaders are lacking. They point to the tactics that modern civil-rights leader use as evidence that they're bad people. As if the way in which they fight back has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not they are right or wrong.

MLK was right. African Americans were being treated like ****. They still are. And they have every right in the world to be incredibly ****ing pissed off about it. Why is it their responsibility to try and be as nice as they possibly can while convincing you that you're a piece of **** racist? Why do you need to see peaceful African Americans being knocked down by fire hoses and have police send their dogs after them for you to acknowledge an obvious truth?

If so many white people from the past could so easily deny an obvious truth and require a man to basically martyr himself before they woke up, why is it so difficult to accept the possibility that maybe, just maybe we're still not there yet? How can you still look at the fact that between 85 and 90% of African Americans consistantly vote Democrat, and assume that basically the entire race is just wrong about the modern Republican party? If you really believe that 90% of an entire race is just to stupid to knwo what's in their own best interest what does that tell us about your personal perception of that race?

Click to expand...

The right may have a small percentage of racists...can’t deny it

They are out there for everyone to see....but if you only see racists on the right, you have your partisan blinders on

And let me ask you something....what has the Democratic Party done for the black community, other than to continue the victim mentality and the programs that keep them begging for more giveaways?

The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing, and expecting a different result

Hope and change with the last guy didn’t really help the black community if you are honest with yourself

Just saying....

How exactly is Trump a racist?


Another boring thread.

MrWonka said:

MLK seems to get a lot of credit for peaceful resistance. I hear a lot of right-wingers talk about his use of non-violence as if that's something modern so-called "civil rights" leaders are lacking. They point to the tactics that modern civil-rights leader use as evidence that they're bad people. As if the way in which they fight back has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not they are right or wrong.

MLK was right. African Americans were being treated like ****. They still are. And they have every right in the world to be incredibly ****ing pissed off about it. Why is it their responsibility to try and be as nice as they possibly can while convincing you that you're a piece of **** racist? Why do you need to see peaceful African Americans being knocked down by fire hoses and have police send their dogs after them for you to acknowledge an obvious truth?

If so many white people from the past could so easily deny an obvious truth and require a man to basically martyr himself before they woke up, why is it so difficult to accept the possibility that maybe, just maybe we're still not there yet? How can you still look at the fact that between 85 and 90% of African Americans consistantly vote Democrat, and assume that basically the entire race is just wrong about the modern Republican party? If you really believe that 90% of an entire race is just to stupid to knwo what's in their own best interest what does that tell us about your personal perception of that race?

Click to expand...

A 'slow thinker' with 'abnormal' sexual preferences.....He was a secret supporter of communism, "a whole-hearted Marxist"

Explosive Martin Luther King document amid JFK files - BBC News

MrWonka said:

MLK seems to get a lot of credit for peaceful resistance. I hear a lot of right-wingers talk about his use of non-violence as if that's something modern so-called "civil rights" leaders are lacking. They point to the tactics that modern civil-rights leader use as evidence that they're bad people. As if the way in which they fight back has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not they are right or wrong.

MLK was right. African Americans were being treated like ****. They still are. And they have every right in the world to be incredibly ****ing pissed off about it. Why is it their responsibility to try and be as nice as they possibly can while convincing you that you're a piece of **** racist? Why do you need to see peaceful African Americans being knocked down by fire hoses and have police send their dogs after them for you to acknowledge an obvious truth?

If so many white people from the past could so easily deny an obvious truth and require a man to basically martyr himself before they woke up, why is it so difficult to accept the possibility that maybe, just maybe we're still not there yet? How can you still look at the fact that between 85 and 90% of African Americans consistantly vote Democrat, and assume that basically the entire race is just wrong about the modern Republican party? If you really believe that 90% of an entire race is just to stupid to knwo what's in their own best interest what does that tell us about your personal perception of that race?

Click to expand...

This is something I struggled with for a long time when I first got into keeping up with politics. A good friend and coworker of mine were discussing society and religion (he is a deacon in the church and from a religious stand point somewhat of a role model for me). When politics inevitably came up, I was shocked to hear that not only he was a lifelong Democrat voter but both his father and grandfather were as well (he was an older gentleman so this places his father and grandfather voting for Democrats at a time in Mississippi where they were vocally against civil rights for African Americans). I questioned him up and down the list of policies like Pro-Life, Pro-gun, etc and from a policy stand point he should clearly be voting Republican. Needless to say we had some interesting discussions on politics after this was revealed to me. Ultimately his reasoning for voting Democrats was that he voted for the person and not policy which I found strange considering most of what he felt was causing the problems of society (taking prayer out of school, not being able to discipline children) were largely coming from politicians he voted for.

My theory on why an abnormally large number of the African American community vote as they do is largely due to the oppression that they faced in the past which created a stronger sense of community than that of other ethnicities. I think the socialist/communist tendencies of the Left speaks to them in ways that the individual nature of the Right does not. I brought this up with him and another coworker (another church deacon and again someone I look up to from a religious stand point) and they pretty much agreed. The second coworker was different than the first in that from a policy stand point he did mostly align with the Democrat platform and used scripture to justify his positions.

I do agree that the perception that 90% of people are too stupid to vote in their best interest is largely ignorant and degrading to those that vote a certain way. I always disliked those arguments many have made about "Democrat plantation" nonsense because I don't feel that accurately describes the situation nor does it sway those to your side that you feel should agree with you.

MrWonka said:

MLK seems to get a lot of credit for peaceful resistance. I hear a lot of right-wingers talk about his use of non-violence as if that's something modern so-called "civil rights" leaders are lacking. They point to the tactics that modern civil-rights leader use as evidence that they're bad people. As if the way in which they fight back has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not they are right or wrong.

MLK was right. African Americans were being treated like ****. They still are. And they have every right in the world to be incredibly ****ing pissed off about it. Why is it their responsibility to try and be as nice as they possibly can while convincing you that you're a piece of **** racist? Why do you need to see peaceful African Americans being knocked down by fire hoses and have police send their dogs after them for you to acknowledge an obvious truth?

If so many white people from the past could so easily deny an obvious truth and require a man to basically martyr himself before they woke up, why is it so difficult to accept the possibility that maybe, just maybe we're still not there yet? How can you still look at the fact that between 85 and 90% of African Americans consistantly vote Democrat, and assume that basically the entire race is just wrong about the modern Republican party? If you really believe that 90% of an entire race is just to stupid to knwo what's in their own best interest what does that tell us about your personal perception of that race?

Click to expand...

That they are no different than any other race? But then...I’ve lost my faith in humanity.

But I’m curious...what policies do the republicans have specifically right now that hurt blacks?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You know maybe I'm wrong but I rather live in a democratic slum than a true Red area.

I mean when I travel around the country there are some places in the US where you can't tell if your in a third world country or not. And every single on of them are deep red.

Look at Median incomes around the US West Virginia's median income was around 24K...what do they vote and have always voted?
Same thing for Mississipi, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana.

I keep hearing blacks are voting against themselves if that's true then so are the whites in deep red states. It seems like poor is poor whether your in a black ghetto or a white trailer park it's all the same ****.
People don't think!

MrWonka said:

MLK seems to get a lot of credit for peaceful resistance. I hear a lot of right-wingers talk about his use of non-violence as if that's something modern so-called "civil rights" leaders are lacking. They point to the tactics that modern civil-rights leader use as evidence that they're bad people. As if the way in which they fight back has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not they are right or wrong.

MLK was right. African Americans were being treated like ****. They still are. And they have every right in the world to be incredibly ****ing pissed off about it. Why is it their responsibility to try and be as nice as they possibly can while convincing you that you're a piece of **** racist? Why do you need to see peaceful African Americans being knocked down by fire hoses and have police send their dogs after them for you to acknowledge an obvious truth?

Click to expand...

Who is the violence being carried out against and how is it being done? Mad about the vestiges of racism so you pull random white dude out of a vehicle and beat him? That's acceptable to you?

If so many white people from the past could so easily deny an obvious truth and require a man to basically martyr himself before they woke up, why is it so difficult to accept the possibility that maybe, just maybe we're still not there yet? How can you still look at the fact that between 85 and 90% of African Americans consistantly vote Democrat, and assume that basically the entire race is just wrong about the modern Republican party? If you really believe that 90% of an entire race is just to stupid to knwo what's in their own best interest what does that tell us about your personal perception of that race?

Click to expand...

I dunno, but the Democrat party is the party of slavery. It always has been and always will be.

Middle_Ground said:

You know maybe I'm wrong but I rather live in a democratic slum than a true Red area.

I mean when I travel around the country there are some places in the US where you can't tell if your in a third world country or not. And every single on of them are deep red.

Look at Median incomes around the US West Virginia's median income was around 24K...what do they vote and have always voted?
Same thing for Mississipi, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana.

I keep hearing blacks are voting against themselves if that's true then so are the whites in deep red states. It seems like poor is poor whether your in a black ghetto or a white trailer park it's all the same ****.
People don't think!

Click to expand...

I'm guessing you haven't ventured into big cities, if you want to look at poverty or almost war-zone level of killing. As for the red areas, pay is lower but the cost of living is usually very good as well.

Fishking said:

Who is the violence being carried out against and how is it being done? Mad about the vestiges of racism so you pull random white dude out of a vehicle and beat him? That's acceptable to you?



I dunno, but the Democrat party is the party of slavery. It always has been and always will be.

Click to expand...

Yeah, and the GOP was once the party of Lincoln. Now they are the party of a ***** grabbing race baiting Reality T.V. Star birther. Parties change.

Fishking said:

I'm guessing you haven't ventured into big cities, if you want to look at poverty or almost war-zone level of killing. As for the red areas, pay is lower but the cost of living is usually very good as well.

Click to expand...

Don't believe the hype on the news when you squish a million people into 3 sq miles yeah there will be more crime and such. But I'll take it anyday.
Does the Bronx NY?, or Dorchester Ma, or Compton CA, Count? what about Kansas City? (lived in all those places)
If so yeah been there done that.
Still better than places without indoor working toilets, no outdoor lights, roads that will take out your car and water that smells and tastes funny. No Thanks

Again poor is poor and they both vote against themselves.

Puigb said:

Yeah, and the GOP was once the party of Lincoln. Now they are the party of a ***** grabbing race baiting Reality T.V. Star birther. Parties change.

Click to expand...

The GOP isn't really the party of Lincoln but, then again, Lincoln is violated a lot of laws, beyond what maybe any President has ever done, with perhaps FDR giving him some competition. That aside, Democrats never stopped being the party of slavery. They just changed what types of chains they use.

Middle_Ground said:

Don't believe the hype on the news when you squish a million people into 3 sq miles yeah there will be more crime and such. But I'll take it anyday.
Does the Bronx NY?, or Dorchester Ma, or Compton CA, Count? what about Kansas City? (lived in all those places)

Click to expand...

I don't have to believe anything. I've seen it with my own eyes. And, yeah...maybe some parts of those cities you'll take but if you take certain parts, your life expectancy is going to take a big hit while your chances of being a victim of a serious crime will skyrocket.

And, yeah...I'm picking up you don't like simple living in the country. Amazingly, some people actually move to very rural areas on purpose to get away from it all and live simply.

Fishking said:

The GOP isn't really the party of Lincoln but, then again, Lincoln is violated a lot of laws, beyond what maybe any President has ever done, with perhaps FDR giving him some competition. That aside, Democrats never stopped being the party of slavery. They just changed what types of chains they use.

Click to expand...

oh yeah, who are they keeping in chains?

Puigb said:

Yeah, and the GOP was once the party of Lincoln. Now they are the party of a ***** grabbing race baiting Reality T.V. Star birther. Parties change.

Click to expand...

The leader of a Rebellion.....But Hey, You where close!

Puigb said:

oh yeah, who are they keeping in chains?

Click to expand...

Uhh...wut? Are you unaware of who were slaves?

Fishking said:

Uhh...wut? Are you unaware of who were slaves?

Click to expand...

you said today they are keeping people in "different types of chains". I'm asking you who. This gives you time to get your talking points in order.

Puigb said:

you said today they are keeping people in "different types of chains". I'm asking you who. This gives you time to get your talking points in order.

Click to expand...

I can only assume that you're going to be extremely dishonest, if you cannot figure out that it's African Americans from my comments and therefore, you're probably just going to waste my time.

Fishking said:

I can only assume that you're going to be extremely dishonest, if you cannot figure out that it's African Americans from my comments and therefore, you're probably just going to waste my time.

Click to expand...

Oh, I wasn't being dishonest, I just just checking if you were going to put forth the standard GOP talking points your political masters tell you to put forth. Looks like I was correct.

Puigb said:

Oh, I wasn't being dishonest, I just just checking if you were going to put forth the standard GOP talking points your political masters tell you to put forth. Looks like I was correct.

Click to expand...

Rofl...like I said, a waste of time. I've been saying this for quite a while now, and it's not hard to back up. Just look at what happens to blacks who leave the Democrat plantation. It's plainly evident.

Fishking said:

Rofl...like I said, a waste of time. I've been saying this for quite a while now, and it's not hard to back up. Just look at what happens to blacks who leave the Democrat plantation. It's plainly evident.

View attachment 67227186

Click to expand...

doesn't prove what you stated at all.

Puigb said:

doesn't prove what you stated at all.

Click to expand...

*yawn* Your "nuh-uh" response, and other such similar gems of nothingness are noted.

Fishking said:

*yawn* Your "nuh-uh" response, and other such similar gems of nothingness are noted.

Click to expand...

you stated that black Americans today are in chains by the Democrats. You then proceeded to provide "proof" by posting some idiots comment about Tim Scott. Millions of blacks vote for the Democrats for their own personal reasons. They are no more in "chains" than all of the dingbats, including Rand Paul supporters, who vote for the GOP every election cycle.

Hell, just look at the way your right wing brethren here treat the few Republican posters who don't support Trump's agenda. They bash them, call them liberals, socialists, communists, etc. Your ilk gets irate when anyone DARES to oppose the almighty Trump.

Puigb said:

you stated that black Americans today are in chains by the Democrats. You then proceeded to provide "proof" by posting some idiots comment about Tim Scott. Millions of blacks vote for the Democrats for their own personal reasons. They are no more in "chains" than all of the dingbats, including Rand Paul supporters, who vote for the GOP every election cycle.

Hell, just look at the way your right wing brethren here treat the few Republican posters who don't support Trump's agenda. They bash them, call them liberals, socialists, communists, etc.

Click to expand...

Not all chains are physical.

Why Janay Rice Stayed in an Abusive Relationship with Ray Rice | Time