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Immigrant deported after 30 years

Helix said:
deporting people who are productive members of society and who are married to Americans isn't the same thing as offsides.
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Deporting convicted felonies who are here illegally is exactly what the should be doing. Why you want to keep felons is beyond me. So should we not send any felons to jail if they have families. It's not really fair to the wife and kids now is it.
 
braindrain said:
Deporting convicted felonies who are here illegally is exactly what the should be doing. Why you want to keep felons is beyond me. So should we not send any felons to jail if they have families. It's not really fair to the wife and kids now is it.
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what are you talking about?
 
Helix said:
what are you talking about?
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The person who is the subject of this thread. The person who plead guilty to a felony for trying to sell drugs.
Who are you talking about.
 
braindrain said:
Deporting convicted felonies who are here illegally is exactly what the should be doing. Why you want to keep felons is beyond me. So should we not send any felons to jail if they have families. It's not really fair to the wife and kids now is it.
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Again, the guy was deported because of an iffy weed charge that he got fines $1000 for (and that included court costs!).

This hand wringing about ‘convicted felons’ is precious.

We DONT send some felons to jail because they have families and are breadwinners. This is the concept of sentencing by judges, rather than juries or law.
 
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braindrain said:
The person who is the subject of this thread. The person who plead guilty to a felony for trying to sell drugs.
Who are you talking about.
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the dude i'm talking about is a landscaper.
 
Threegoofs said:
Again, the guy was deported because of an iffy weed charge that he got fines $1000 for (and that included court costs!).

This hand wringing about ‘convicted felons’ is precious.
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Try and hand wave it any way you want. The man is a convicted felony. You not liking it doesn't change reality.
 
braindrain said:
Yes and he is a felon. Read the thread. Not just Goofs dishonest op.
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It's hilarious. The people coming out of the woodwork to defend this illegal immigrant drug pusher is demanding that we turn a blind eye to his criminal activity because of a manufactured and false sob story.
 
Helix said:
deporting people who are productive members of society and who are married to Americans isn't the same thing as offsides.
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deporting aliens who violate the law and plead guilty to felonious drug dealing is an action very compliant with the law

would you want the law to instead be one which authorized legal resident status for those immigrants who are guilty of felonies? i would not. and i strongly suspect that the majority of our citizens would not. which is why such a law remains the law of the land. and the law was enforced as it was written
no special dispensations for the well connected. no winking at it for this "law abiding" felonious drug dealer with a "clean record without even a driving citation"
 
Mr Person said:
Explain turn by turn what he would have to do and how it would work.




I'm not for purely open borders but if a guy has been here 30 years doing better than quite a TON of citizens, I really don't see the point in deporting him now. I'd cheer you on and said "just see what your hard right move costs you in the long run", except there are human beings paying the price.
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What's funny about these "law and order" immigration right-wingers that like to pretend they are in line with the founding fathers... in the 1700's you actually had to live here THEN you were allowed to apply after several years.
 
Threegoofs said:
Again, the guy was deported because of an iffy weed charge that he got fines $1000 for (and that included court costs!).

This hand wringing about ‘convicted felons’ is precious.

We DONT send some felons to jail because they have families and are breadwinners. This is the concept of sentencing by judges, rather than juries or law.
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what is "precious" is the intent to ignore the felony record of the deportee. a felony charge to which the deportee had pled "guilty"
please tell us which parts of the laws we should ignore and in what instances
 
Helix said:
the dude i'm talking about is a landscaper.
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a landscaper with a self-pled felony conviction for drug dealing. is that the one?
 
braindrain said:
Yes and he is a felon. Read the thread. Not just Goofs dishonest op.
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That’s not necessarily the case.

What we know for sure is that the crime he plead to was considered so serious that they gave him a minimal fine.

Doesn’t seem like something a permanent resident (which he was) should get deported for.

Anyone who can’t see this is just bonkers.
 
braindrain said:
Well then she shouldn't have overstayed her visa if she didn't want to deal with the consequences. This is no ones fault but her own. Just because someone wants to live here does not give them the right to do so. She should be kicked out and banned from ever re-entering this country. The fact that you can't understand that people should be accountable for the actions they take is unbelievable.

I am following your posts. You have been consistently wrong through this entire thread. First claiming he was law abiding despite him pleading guilty to a felony and then you tried blaming this on Trump despite the fact that virtually every bit of it happened under Obama.

I don't really care how you feel about my opinion. But you are doing a good job on continuing to be wrong on this thread. And I didn't vote for Trump and don't support the majority of things he has said or done. But nice try though.

For those brought over as kids I do think they need a pathway to citizenship.
As for people who as adults came here illegally or overstayed their visas like your friend, no I think they need to be deported as soon as possible and yes I do think they are criminals because that's what they are. It's why they are called illegal immigrants. Just because you feel sorry for them doesn't change reality or the laws.
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Again, you're wrong about my opinion. I don't think she should have overstayed her visa, because it put in a worse situation. She is unsafe. She is part of an illegal group of former Soviet girls. She gets exploited and abused already.

She would have been better off leaving the US. I understand she didn't want to go back to Ukraine. She had good reasons, but I think she made her situation much worse by staying.

She is a young person, and I doubt she knew the risks of her actions.

I disagree that she should punished if she tries to leave the US and go anywhere else. Such a policy causes people like her to retreat either into murky and dangerous situations in America. We should offer such people a chance to leave without punishment. It would be mutually benifical.
 
poweRob said:
What's funny about these "law and order" immigration right-wingers that like to pretend they are in line with the founding fathers... in the 1700's you actually had to live here THEN you were allowed to apply after several years.
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What's funny about these open border liberals is that they have no problems pushing a false narrative to try and protect a convicted felony drug dealer if they can further their agenda. They should at least be honest about wanting open borders and stop pretending.
 
braindrain said:
What's funny about these open border liberals is that they have no problems pushing a false narrative to try and protect a convicted felony drug dealer if they can further their agenda. They should at least be honest about wanting open borders and stop pretending.
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What's funny is you just made a straw man to argue with because you don't have a valid point.
 
justabubba said:
so, your husband is in the USA on an expired visa and your spouse thus being subject to deportation is not your husband's fault
got it
ICE will certainly overlook the illegal aspect of the circumstance
while placing your spouse on a plane to elsewhere
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No. My husbands Visa is up to date, but immigration keeps dragging their feet through the process and getting back to us. We have been waiting on them for almost a year now. It's ridclous.
 
poweRob said:
What's funny is you just made a straw man to argue with because you don't have a valid point.
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You mean exactly like you did in the post I quoted you in. Yeah no kidding.
 
braindrain said:
Yes and he is a felon. Read the thread. Not just Goofs dishonest op.
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cite your source so that i can check it out. if there's a genuine drug conviction, then the proper punishment would be jail, not deportation. he's married to a US citizen.
 
braindrain said:
Her unwillingness to place any of the blame where it actually belongs is rather unbelievable. It's as if she thinks no one should have to follow the immigration laws of this country and it is the US's fault for daring to enforce our laws.
Like it's not the immigrants fault they over stayed their visa or snuck into this country illegally. Why should they have to deal with the consequences of their actions
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Again, you're wrong. You don't know wth you're talking about.
 
Helix said:
cite your source so that i can check it out. if there's a genuine drug conviction, then the proper punishment would be jail, not deportation. he's married to a US citizen.
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Read the actual thread. It has been posted. No one but you denies it.

And no your wrong that the proper punishment is not jail it's deportation. That's what the law says and it's why he is being deported.
 
braindrain said:
You mean exactly like you did in the post I quoted you in. Yeah no kidding.
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Yeah... cons aren't preaching "law and order" and bs like that. Get back to me when the bulk of liberals are for open borders. Your comment is more than fraudulent.
 
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poweRob said:
Yeah... cons aren't preaching "law and order" and bs like that. Get back to me when the bulk of liberals are for open borders. Your comment is more than fraudulent.
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There is a rather big difference between law and order and the straw man you built. I guess now you are the only one allowed making up BS. No I don't think so.
 
Helix said:
cite your source so that i can check it out. if there's a genuine drug conviction, then the proper punishment would be jail, not deportation. he's married to a US citizen.
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It's been cited multiple times in the thread. The proper punishment according to the law is that an illegal immigrant be deported. This convicted felon decided that he couldn't be bothered to complete the necessary documents when he was ordered to be deported in 2009. Instead of getting his crap together he decided to repeatedly thumb his nose up at the law. It took ten years for this illegal immigrant to get his court case deportation. So in all he's had over 20 years to get it done. It's a shame he decided to indulge in a life of sloth and indolence and illegal behavior but them's the breaks. You can tell his family really loves him because they're not going with him.
 
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