Immigrant deported after 30 years

ludin · Jan 15, 2018

volsrock said:
This was court ordered in 2009!

His wife is a US citizen, from my reading, it looks like he could have applied for a green card after three years of marriage, but he didnt!

In that time he could have become a citizen but chose not too.
Even when he was served in 2009 that is 9 years and he didn't take
10 second internet search tovget his affairs in order.

Barnacle · Jan 15, 2018

jimbo said:
The problem is:

Now for the bad news. Whether the immigrant can "adjust status" -- that is, apply for a green card without leaving the United States -- depends on whether he or she fits into one of a few narrow exceptions. The immigrant can adjust status only if he or she either:

legally entered the U.S. with a visa or after inspection by an immigration officer (and wasn't just using the visa with the intention of applying for a green card based on marriage, which happens to be visa fraud) and is either marrying a U.S. citizen or still on a valid visa, or
had a visa petition or labor certification filed for him or her several years ago when a law called "245(i)" was still in force.
If, however, the immigrant entered the United States by unlawful means, such as having been a stowaway or crossing over the border through a fence, adjustment of status is not an option.

Illegals are not eligible for green cards.

Hence my friend's trip to Honduras; US marriage certificate and "illegal" husband and all. Couple of weeks in Honduras, lots of paperwork at the US embassy, paid the "fees" to enter this country and ... voila, green card for former illegal alien.

Mexican in OP could have taken the same steps.

ludin · Jan 15, 2018

Cameron said:
At the end of the day, his great offense is failing to fill out some paperwork. For that crime, the Trump administration will put his American family through hell. Honestly, I'd rather have ten million "dull-witted" illegal immigrants like him than a single person who lacks even a scrap of compassion for his fellow man, which is what a person would have to be to think this is appropriate.

Trump is doing nothing. The law states that he should be deported. It has been that way long before trump.
In fact he was served notice before trump ever became president.

I feel sorry for him, however if we all have to abide under the law then so does he.
He has 30some years to become a citizen he had he past 9 years to do the same.

Yet he didn't. He only has himself to blame.

Middle_Ground · Jan 15, 2018

ludin said:
In that time he could have become a citizen but chose not too.
Even when he was served in 2009 that is 9 years and he didn't take
10 second internet search tovget his affairs in order.

Did you ever think he tried and due to his initial status was unable to? So he just lived worked and supported his family until that day of deportation came?

I say send all the bread winners, college educated (school loan can't get you in a foreign country), make sure you get rid of all the doctors (can't tell you the last time I saw a non-immigrant doctor), lawyers, engineers, technicians and just to be sure all the hospitality workers, landscapers and factory workers.
Then put a wall up from Washington State to Pheonix and send all the people of color over there.
Get rid of every person that was not born here. I could careless whether illegal or legal.
Everyone can then have what they want.
I think that's best.

Or no worries
We paid for a plane ticket to Mexico. Mom and 2 kids should immediately go on welfare and get a lawyer. Suck every dollar out.

volsrock · Jan 15, 2018

Middle_Ground said:
Mom and 2 kids should immediately go on welfare and get a lawyer. Suck every dollar out.

Are u saying women cant work?

Mom and kids can join him in his home land! He has had 9 years to save up to relocate them!

dbl0neg · Jan 15, 2018

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf

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volsrock · Jan 16, 2018

dbl0neg said:
http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf

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Although he applied for cancellation of removal, the
Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) determined that he is ineligible for this relief
because his state drug conviction for the attempted possession of marihuana with the
intent to deliver the drug constitutes an “aggravated felony” under the Immigration and
Nationality Act (INA). The BIA ruled that his state conviction is an aggravated felony
because it corresponds to a felony drug crime under federal law.

Although the precise amount of marihuana involved in Garcia’s case is unknown,
the attempt to possess with the intent to deliver any amount of marihuana less than 50
kilograms is punishable by up to five years in prison. 21 U.S.C. § 841(b)(1)(D). This
means that the elements of Garcia’s state offense presumptively correspond to the
elements of the federal felony offense of attempting to possess with intent to deliver
marihuana. His state conviction should therefore be considered an aggravated felony.
See Lopez, 549 U.S. at 57.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf

So they push the lie that he has no criminal record

Middle_Ground · Jan 16, 2018

volsrock said:
Are u saying women cant work?

Mom and kids can join him in his home land! He has had 9 years to save up to relocate them!

Mom and kids are US citizens (they don't have to go anywhere) they can suck off the government teet for life due to emotional distress brought on by the US government. Send every under the table dime back to hubby to build a new life.
Then get dual citizenship. Get the kids medical degrees on us. Then go be doctors in the other country.
We just keep creating enemies for ourselves. So stupid!

dbl0neg · Jan 16, 2018

volsrock said:
Although he applied for cancellation of removal, the
Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) determined that he is ineligible for this relief
because his state drug conviction for the attempted possession of marihuana with the
intent to deliver the drug constitutes an “aggravated felony” under the Immigration and
Nationality Act (INA). The BIA ruled that his state conviction is an aggravated felony
because it corresponds to a felony drug crime under federal law.

Although the precise amount of marihuana involved in Garcia’s case is unknown,
the attempt to possess with the intent to deliver any amount of marihuana less than 50
kilograms is punishable by up to five years in prison. 21 U.S.C. § 841(b)(1)(D). This
means that the elements of Garcia’s state offense presumptively correspond to the
elements of the federal felony offense of attempting to possess with intent to deliver
marihuana. His state conviction should therefore be considered an aggravated felony.
See Lopez, 549 U.S. at 57.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf

So they push the lie that he has no criminal record

maybe because Innocent until proven guilty? and his self admission to the crime never want to trial instead lead to deportation. So it’s probably easy to confuse that as never been “convicted” of a crime? as never committed a crime?

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dobieg · Jan 16, 2018

Mason66 said:
The Obama administration ordered him deported.

There had to be something to that. I don't think they picked people at random.

Perhaps and that is why I'm always skeptical when I read these sob stories.

But in this case I couldn't find anything wrong with the guy and given the circumstances I personally don't want to see him deported which is a pretty big deal coming from someone like me. The MS-13 gang member - outta here. The woman who's been on welfare ever since she got here - gone. The young kids who streamed our borders a few years ago because they were told all they have to do is say they are escaping violence - go back. Those who overstay their visas - nope.

I just don't see in this case or similar situations why we'd want to crush a family when the guy had nothing to do with crossing the border and has been a hard worker and family man ever since he's grown up. If this is the kind of people you want to send back you're going to lose an awful lot of support. If it's simply over the top rhetoric and hyperbole because of the games liberals pull then ok.

Fishking · Jan 16, 2018

BlackMatters said:
Stop trying to change the subject. You said “not so” but you didnt elaborate. So that just shows to me that you arent sure.

You still have to go through a process. I'm not sure what it is, but it's not a marriage certificate automatically makes you a citizen. I'm also not sure how that works if he was here illegally to begin with. This would be different than getting married to a foreigner that was here legally.

reinoe · Jan 16, 2018

dbl0neg said:
maybe because Innocent until proven guilty? and his self admission to the crime never want to trial instead lead to deportation. So it’s probably easy to confuse that as never been “convicted” of a crime? as never committed a crime?

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He was 100% definitely a drug pusher. Now we know how he could afford to raise his family without his wife working.

dobieg · Jan 16, 2018

dobieg said:
Perhaps and that is why I'm always skeptical when I read these sob stories.

But in this case I couldn't find anything wrong with the guy and given the circumstances I personally don't want to see him deported which is a pretty big deal coming from someone like me. The MS-13 gang member - outta here. The woman who's been on welfare ever since she got here - gone. The young kids who streamed our borders a few years ago because they were told all they have to do is say they are escaping violence - go back. Those who overstay their visas - nope.

I just don't see in this case or similar situations why we'd want to crush a family when the guy had nothing to do with crossing the border and has been a hard worker and family man ever since he's grown up. If this is the kind of people you want to send back you're going to lose an awful lot of support. If it's simply over the top rhetoric and hyperbole because of the games liberals pull then ok.

Cancel that.

Upon further review he's just another illegal drug pusher. As usual the media and the Left distort a story to make us distrust them even less.

Page not found | Sixth Circuit | United States Court of Appeals

dobieg · Jan 16, 2018

I mean what the hell liberals?

You push, yet again, another false narrative. Do you know how much damage this kind of crap does to your side and your causes? Even when we want to have compassion and believe you it's nothing more than a big pile of crap. So annoying.

Kobie · Jan 16, 2018

dobieg said:
I mean what the hell liberals?

You push, yet again, another false narrative. Do you know how much damage this kind of crap does to your side and your causes? Even when we want to have compassion and believe you it's nothing more than a big pile of crap. So annoying.

Yes, that "page not found" link really made me realize that being a liberal is wrong.

volsrock · Jan 16, 2018

dbl0neg said:
maybe because Innocent until proven guilty? and his self admission to the crime never want to trial instead lead to deportation. So it’s probably easy to confuse that as never been “convicted” of a crime? as never committed a crime?

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convicted of a controlled-substance offense under 8 U.S.C. §§ 1182(a)(2)(C) and
1182(a)(2)(A)(i)(II)

what part of that do u not get?

volsrock · Jan 16, 2018

Kobie said:
Yes, that "page not found" link really made me realize that being a liberal is wrong.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/11a0077p-06.pdf

dobieg · Jan 16, 2018

Kobie said:
Yes, that "page not found" link really made me realize that being a liberal is wrong.

From Volsrock

Although he applied for cancellation of removal, the
Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) determined that he is ineligible for this relief
because his state drug conviction for the attempted possession of marihuana with the
intent to deliver the drug constitutes an “aggravated felony” under the Immigration and
Nationality Act (INA). The BIA ruled that his state conviction is an aggravated felony
because it corresponds to a felony drug crime under federal law.

Although the precise amount of marihuana involved in Garcia’s case is unknown,
the attempt to possess with the intent to deliver any amount of marihuana less than 50
kilograms is punishable by up to five years in prison. 21 U.S.C. § 841(b)(1)(D). This
means that the elements of Garcia’s state offense presumptively correspond to the
elements of the federal felony offense of attempting to possess with intent to deliver
marihuana. His state conviction should therefore be considered an aggravated felony.
See Lopez, 549 U.S. at 57.

Page not found | Sixth Circuit | United States Court of Appeals

So they push the lie that he has no criminal record

dbl0neg · Jan 16, 2018

volsrock said:
convicted of a controlled-substance offense under 8 U.S.C. §§ 1182(a)(2)(C) and
1182(a)(2)(A)(i)(II)

what part of that do u not get?

oh i get it. i’m the one that brought the attention here, remember.

i was satirically trying to come up with excuses that someone would say to discredit it. forgive me if i went overboard.

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reinoe · Jan 16, 2018

Mason66 said:
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reinoe said:
I will say that liberals are picking their battles a little better at least: The last time there was a slew of illegals being deported the mainstream media decided to lionize and defend illegal immigrants who are convicted of engaging in identity theft, credit card fraud, and drunk driving convictions.

I stand corrected. Many liberals and the MSM are still bending over backwards to defend criminal illegal aliens. From identity theft and credit card fraud to this guy: a notorious drug pusher. The MSM still gets their jollies defending criminals who put the lives and safety of American citizens in danger. They were still spinning yarns about how that murderer who killed Kate Steinle was a misguided and misunderstood soul who meant no harm.

jamesrage · Jan 16, 2018

Threegoofs said:
“After 30 years of living in the U.S, Garcia, a 39-year-old Lincoln Park landscaper, was deported on MLK Day from Detroit Metro Airport to Mexico, a move supporters say was another example of immigrants being unfairly targeted under the Trump administration.

Jorge Garcia was brought to the U.S. by an undocumented family member when he was 10 years old. Today he has a wife and two children,, all of whom are U.S. citizens.

Garcia had been facing an order of removal from immigration courts since 2009, but under the previous administration, he had been given stays of removal. But because of the Trump administration's crackdown on immigration, Garcia was ordered in November to return to Mexico. His supporters say he has no criminal record - not even a traffic ticket - and pays taxes ever year.

Nevertheless, Garcia had to be removed, said Immigration and Customs Enforcement. On Monday morning, accompanied by ICE agents at Detroit Metro Airport, Garcia went through security as supporters around him held up signs that read, "Stop Separating Families."

Lincoln Park dad deported to Mexico after living in U.S. for 30 years

Well, *I* sure feel safer.

He was in this country illegally. So it doesn't how long he was allegedly here.Since he turned eighteen years of age he was responsible for his legal status. Don't give me that spiel of how hard it is to come here when we let in one million people a year come into the US legally each year, naturalize over 650,000 to almost 780,000 immigrants a year and we have at least 12.6 million green card holders.

ludin · Jan 16, 2018

Middle_Ground said:
Did you ever think he tried and due to his initial status was unable to? So he just lived worked and supported his family until that day of deportation came?

I say send all the bread winners, college educated (school loan can't get you in a foreign country), make sure you get rid of all the doctors (can't tell you the last time I saw a non-immigrant doctor), lawyers, engineers, technicians and just to be sure all the hospitality workers, landscapers and factory workers.
Then put a wall up from Washington State to Pheonix and send all the people of color over there.
Get rid of every person that was not born here. I could careless whether illegal or legal.
Everyone can then have what they want.
I think that's best.

Or no worries
We paid for a plane ticket to Mexico. Mom and 2 kids should immediately go on welfare and get a lawyer. Suck every dollar out.

Once he was married all he had to do is file a naturalization application.
He chose not to do it.

Families get broken up all the time when someone commits a crime.
Fathers go to jail moms go to jail etc.

Your appeal to emotion is just that.
I see non-immigrant doctors all the time that has nothing to do with it.

We have laws and the laws say if you do not have permission to be here then you are deported.
He can plead his case before a judge in an immigration hearing.
The judge will decide if he can get residency status or not.

Or give him extended time to get status.

ludin · Jan 16, 2018

reinoe said:
I stand corrected. Many liberals and the MSM are still bending over backwards to defend criminal illegal aliens. From identity theft and credit card fraud to this guy: a notorious drug pusher. The MSM still gets their jollies defending criminals who put the lives and safety of American citizens in danger. They were still spinning yarns about how that murderer who killed Kate Steinle was a misguided and misunderstood soul who meant no harm.

Any evidence this guy was a drug pusher?

jimbo · Jan 16, 2018

Barnacle said:
Hence my friend's trip to Honduras; US marriage certificate and "illegal" husband and all. Couple of weeks in Honduras, lots of paperwork at the US embassy, paid the "fees" to enter this country and ... voila, green card for former illegal alien.

Mexican in OP could have taken the same steps.

Exactly!!!

dbl0neg · Jan 16, 2018

ludin said:
Any evidence this guy was a drug pusher?

when someone says something like that, you’ll have to look a few post back to see why he said that.

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