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Witnessing History!

Rexedgar said:
How old are you?

There were only three, NBC/ABC/CBS. FOX was a late comer and there was always the UHF channels, but you had to put up with screen snow on them and the programming wasn’t the best. And everytime you wanted to change the channel, you had to get up and disconnect you ass from the couch!
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Ah, yes, life before remotes. So primitive! ;)
 
nota bene said:
Ah, yes, life before remotes. So primitive! ;)
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We never did have to get up to change the channel on our first TV.

There was only one channel that came in at all.

We did have to put up a tall antenna to get that one, though.
 
nota bene said:
You'll enjoy this from Glenn Reynolds yesterday:

ANDREW KLAVAN: “Nothing scandalizes a leftist like the truth.” Plus: “So, when it comes to the Great ****hole Controversy of 2018, my feeling is: I do not care, not even a little. I’m sorry that it takes someone like Trump to break the spell of silence the Left is forever weaving around us. I wish a man like Ronald Reagan would come along and accomplish the same thing with more wit and grace. But that was another culture.”

I’m amused when people who’ve spent 50 years declaring the very concept of decency repressive and outdated suddenly start with the “have you no decency?” shtick. When Joseph Welch used that phrase, it was pretty much Peak Decency, or as we’re now told, a horrible regressive time of racism, homophobia, transphobia and xenophobia. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/
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Harshaw said:
That's more or less what I'm saying, yeah.
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I should note, though, that I'm referring to to the history and hypocrisy as Klavan lays it out. As to what I think of Trump using the word, I find myself 99% in agreement of this slew of NR's take:

Trump's S---ty Remark | National Review

Donald Trump?s Comments on Haiti & Africa Hurt Immigration Agenda | National Review

Page not found | National Review

Donald Trump's Haiti & Africa Comments: Identity Politics at Their Worst | National Review
 
Dittohead not! said:
We never did have to get up to change the channel on our first TV.

There was only one channel that came in at all.

We did have to put up a tall antenna to get that one, though.
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There was only one channel at my grandparents', and they had a tall antenna and also "rabbit ears." Black and white TV, of course. Growing up, I lived in a big city with three channels.
 
Harshaw said:
I should note, though, that I'm referring to to the history and hypocrisy as Klavan lays it out. As to what I think of Trump using the word, I find myself 99% in agreement of this slew of NR's take:

Trump's S---ty Remark | National Review

Donald Trump?s Comments on Haiti & Africa Hurt Immigration Agenda | National Review

Page not found | National Review

Donald Trump's Haiti & Africa Comments: Identity Politics at Their Worst | National Review
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Re your "Page not found" link above, might it have been to this? Donald Trump Makes an Execrable Comment About Haiti and Other Countries | National Review
 
Rexedgar said:
When I was born, Harry S Truman was in his last months of his Presidency. Sometime in the late 1950’s we got a television. It was 12”(measured diagonally), (truth in advertising), and B&W. I was exposed to the early westerns, Cheyenne, Sugarfoot, The Rifleman, Wanter Dead or Alive and others. In the early sitcoms, married couples slept in either separate rooms and definitely in separate beds. Things progressed for years, while the real world became more coarse. I cannot remember the year, but George Carlin took on the FCC and came up with the routine “Seven Dirty Words.” I checked, this was 1972. Fast forward to 2018 and instead of bleeping or obscuring the vulgar, slang word for excrement, there it was, spoken and appearing in the news stream running at the bottom of the screen and in print media. I am no prude, I know the word and have used it in excess throughout my life. I have, however never heard or seen the word printed or heard it outside of an ‘R’ rated movie or a cable channel. Never on network television. I am not going to live to see the repercussions of this fallen barrier, but I guarantee that this is the ‘new normal’ and there will be other barriers that fall and people will not even register the crossing of the line!

Brave New World, indeed!
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I think you would love European television, uncensored coarse language and full-frontal nudity are par for the course. In North America Quebec seems to share European values quite often having much lower age ratings than other Canadian provinces and certainly the US, some films rated NC-17 in the US are rated PG in Quebec. Game of Thrones and HBO's Rome are rated PG13 in Quebec despite full frontal nudity, on-screen sex acts, and plenty of violence and gore.

I will never understand why Americans and the MPAA are such prudes.
 
Rexedgar said:
How old are you?

There were only three, NBC/ABC/CBS. FOX was a late comer and there was always the UHF channels, but you had to put up with screen snow on them and the programming wasn’t the best. And everytime you wanted to change the channel, you had to get up and disconnect you ass from the couch!
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Was there even a PBS channel then?? Or was it just UHF if you chose. Loved all those shows!!
 
Rexedgar said:
When I was born, Harry S Truman was in his last months of his Presidency. Sometime in the late 1950’s we got a television. It was 12”(measured diagonally), (truth in advertising), and B&W. I was exposed to the early westerns, Cheyenne, Sugarfoot, The Rifleman, Wanter Dead or Alive and others. In the early sitcoms, married couples slept in either separate rooms and definitely in separate beds. Things progressed for years, while the real world became more coarse. I cannot remember the year, but George Carlin took on the FCC and came up with the routine “Seven Dirty Words.” I checked, this was 1972. Fast forward to 2018 and instead of bleeping or obscuring the vulgar, slang word for excrement, there it was, spoken and appearing in the news stream running at the bottom of the screen and in print media. I am no prude, I know the word and have used it in excess throughout my life. I have, however never heard or seen the word printed or heard it outside of an ‘R’ rated movie or a cable channel. Never on network television. I am not going to live to see the repercussions of this fallen barrier, but I guarantee that this is the ‘new normal’ and there will be other barriers that fall and people will not even register the crossing of the line!

Brave New World, indeed!
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Networks do allow the "s" word after a certain time at night. I've heard it used on several late-night talk shows prior to when President ****hole blurted it out last week.
 
Carjosse said:
I think you would love European television, uncensored coarse language and full-frontal nudity are par for the course. In North America Quebec seems to share European values quite often having much lower age ratings than other Canadian provinces and certainly the US, some films rated NC-17 in the US are rated PG in Quebec. Game of Thrones and HBO's Rome are rated PG13 in Quebec despite full frontal nudity, on-screen sex acts, and plenty of violence and gore.

I will never understand why Americans and the MPAA are such prudes.
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I have a theory regarding the Americans and Puritan standards. We are the most pure and correct people on earth until someone turns out the light!

My dad was Swiss and in the 1970’s all commercials were lumped into a half or full hour around 1700hrs. Episodes of whatever were never with ads. I cannot watch network tv with the ads
 
Harshaw said:
No, actually it was Ramesh Ponnuru's comment in the Corner. I think the link might have failed due to the profanity filter. But everyone at NR seems to be on the same page.
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My guess is that the link failure is NRO's. Lately, I've wondered if it has a new webmaster because until recently, most of my links came up "Page not found" too.

I agree with Jim Geraghty in his "An Execrable Presidential Comment" that in making this comment, the President demonstrated a lack of respect for the Office and that vulgarity is a choice. Donald Trump Makes an Execrable Comment About Haiti and Other Countries | National Review

I continue to be disappointed by Trump's failure to cultivate gravitas.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Do you also remember when commercials wouldn't show women in bras or panties? So really, this isn't anything all that new.
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And you still can't drink the beer in a beer commercial. (And I ain't just talkin' 'bout that Coors piss-beer.)
 
There sure are a bunch of old people here. I generally have nothing to do with such people.
 
Rexedgar said:
When I was born, Harry S Truman was in his last months of his Presidency. Sometime in the late 1950’s we got a television. It was 12”(measured diagonally), (truth in advertising), and B&W. I was exposed to the early westerns, Cheyenne, Sugarfoot, The Rifleman, Wanter Dead or Alive and others. In the early sitcoms, married couples slept in either separate rooms and definitely in separate beds. Things progressed for years, while the real world became more coarse. I cannot remember the year, but George Carlin took on the FCC and came up with the routine “Seven Dirty Words.” I checked, this was 1972. Fast forward to 2018 and instead of bleeping or obscuring the vulgar, slang word for excrement, there it was, spoken and appearing in the news stream running at the bottom of the screen and in print media. I am no prude, I know the word and have used it in excess throughout my life. I have, however never heard or seen the word printed or heard it outside of an ‘R’ rated movie or a cable channel. Never on network television. I am not going to live to see the repercussions of this fallen barrier, but I guarantee that this is the ‘new normal’ and there will be other barriers that fall and people will not even register the crossing of the line!

Brave New World, indeed!
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Lenny Bruce, stand-up comedian, social critic, and satirist, laid the groundwork and beat the path for the likes of George Carlin and Richard Pryor to follow. The cops literally beat him and he was convicted of obscenity in 1964 (he was posthumously pardoned in 2003 by NY Governor Pataki, the first ever pardon in NY history) and died of morphine poisoning in 1966 at 40 years of age. Phil Spector swiped the photos of his naked body to keep them from being published. He integrated satire, politics, religion, sex, and vulgarity like no one before except possibly Redd Foxx’s raunchy nightclub acts because the whites didn’t bother with black clubs. He used every vulgar word there was, and then some.
 
nota bene said:
There was only one channel at my grandparents', and they had a tall antenna and also "rabbit ears." Black and white TV, of course. Growing up, I lived in a big city with three channels.
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You had to live in a city to have such luxuries as more than one TV channel. You probably had several stations on the radio as well.
But, I'll bet you didn't get to go target shooting right outside your back door.
 
Dittohead not! said:
You had to live in a city to have such luxuries as more than one TV channel. You probably had several stations on the radio as well.
But, I'll bet you didn't get to go target shooting right outside your back door.
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No, I didn't. But my kids did. ;)
 
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