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I Don't Care. Not Even A Little

Are you positive Johnson said those exact words?

Sources are credible when they claim the other person said something naughty, right? ;)

He dropped the N word often so maybe he did or didn't say that quote but others could be used in place of it. But, as for this particular thing, I think Trump likely said what they are saying and it amounts to a *yawn* because:

1. It's actually true and everyone knows it. There are just a bunch of weak-minded individuals clambering over each other to virtue signal the hardest that it isn't true.
2. I care about policy more than mean words. I'd support someone who hated me, and said so, if they had the same ideology as me.
 
So here they come again, after dismissing our concerns about free speech rights and simple fairness and decency, after promoting decadency and debauchery for so long they exclaim, "What about our rights? What about decency?"

To Hell with all of them.

I would have to say I prefer openly promoting debauchery to condemning debauchery, while debauching.
 
No such thing as 'Karma'. Just a word popular with idiot stoned hippies, devoid of sense or meaning.

Idiot much? Tell us about your credentials.

kar·ma
ˈkärmə/Submit
noun
(in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.
informal
destiny or fate, following as effect from cause.

Reducing all Hindus and Buddhists to "idiot stoned hippies" would qualify one as a "total ass-wipe racist".
 
Oh...well that's a huge difference. How about we not have little douchers running as fast as they can to leak every little thing said for 5 minutes of fame or due to partisan hackery. If I was subjected to so much leaking I'd definitely be cleaning house way more than what Trump has done and I'd be making the Democrats sit on the sidelines of anything and everything.

I think I'd become way more conscious of the words I used ....

Maybe I'm just weird.
 
I think I'd become way more conscious of the words I used ....

Maybe I'm just weird.

Do you live in your workplace? If you had people running around in your house all the time you wouldn't tire of having to always be crafting your words before you say it?
 
How can you have a legitimate discussion about what was reported if we only have heresy on what was actually said? And, we have several Republicans who were in the meeting who said that Trump did not use that language and ONE Democrat who said he did.

You are arguing something completely different than what I was initially responding to. This is another thread about if the ****hole sentence is bad or not. It isn't about how accurate the reporting is.
 
So here they come again, after dismissing our concerns about free speech rights and simple fairness and decency, after promoting decadency and debauchery for so long they exclaim, "What about our rights? What about decency?"

To Hell with all of them.

Translation: I don't want to take responsibility for my behavior. I want to blame others.

It's the they-did-it-first argument. It's very common among children.
 
Trump in his crude way, was referring to the diversity lottery bull crap that's been going on.

Should skin pigment be the main reason for taking in immigrants?

NO SEE...............people like me do get it.

What is the diversity visa lottery program and who gets admitted? Do you know? And what does skin pigment have to do with it?
 
Do you live in your workplace? If you had people running around in your house all the time you wouldn't tire of having to always be crafting your words before you say it?

Not saying something denigrating to entire countries' populations is "crafting your words"?? How can this even be something the PRESIDENT OF OUR COUNTRY would think was ok to say out loud? Is nobody capable of curtailing their use of obscenities when there are children nearby? Of course they are, so if that level of awareness isn't possible to be achieved by our president, then it just shows his refinement level is "basement". I'm not upset by the fact that he said the "s-word", but that he thought it was ok to do so in that context.
 
Yes he has.. Your left wing Democratic party has been calling us white guys racist pigs and more for years now. And guess what, how STUPID that was as we still out number all other races, even though with 8 years of more immigration than any sane person would ever allow. The game the left plays trying to dilute us through "diversity" is just bull****, and we get it now. So you want to play racism? Maybe you should have checked to make sure you have a majority first. :2wave:

The left created the modern form of racism we are suffering from. You made us angry white men!!!!
Exactly the sort of disjointed nonsense that Trump's base feeds upon. Like I said, he knew who his audience was, and they agree with him.

But, please don't lump this old white guy in with whoever it is you're calling "us." I'm not a part of your group.
 
Yes he has.. Your left wing Democratic party has been calling us white guys racist pigs and more for years now. And guess what, how STUPID that was as we still out number all other races, even though with 8 years of more immigration than any sane person would ever allow. The game the left plays trying to dilute us through "diversity" is just bull****, and we get it now. So you want to play racism? Maybe you should have checked to make sure you have a majority first. :2wave:

The left created the modern form of racism we are suffering from. You made us angry white men!!!!

Anyone who doubts that the election of Trump has allowed racists and bigots to feel justified in their position needs to look no further than this post to see how relieved they are that they can once again tell black folks to stop getting uppity.
 
Anyone who doubts that the election of Trump has allowed racists and bigots to feel justified in their position needs to look no further than this post to see how relieved they are that they can once again tell black folks to stop getting uppity.

You missed the meaning entirely. :roll:

Let me guess your a left winger and sure Detroit is a **** hole because a couple of white mayors back in the 50's.. :roll:

The problem is the constant blathering about how racist whites are. It has become a Self fulfiling prophecy, as by doing that YOU inflame the racist, in all of us. Are you lacking so much intelligence you can not understand the concept? YOUR left wing racism, so overplayed so many times, has caused the very thing it tries to pin on the right. IT is your problem to deal with now... Get it?

Or are you not a capable thinking being....
 
Anyone who doubts that the election of Trump has allowed racists and bigots to feel justified in their position needs to look no further than this post to see how relieved they are that they can once again tell black folks to stop getting uppity.

I would think the praise Trump is getting from the Klan and Neo-Nazis would be proof that what he said was racist:

The Daily Stormer, one of the world’s largest neo-Nazi websites, praised Donald Trump for referring to Haiti, El Salvador and several African countries as “****holes,” saying it showed that the President aligned with them on race and immigration.

“[Trump’s comments are] encouraging and refreshing,” wrote Andrew Anglin, the neo-Nazi editor of the Daily Stormer. “It indicates Trump is more or less on the same page as us with regards to race and immigration…[It] is a huge leap from where the rest of the entirety of the political system in this country is at.”

https://thinkprogress.org/infamous-neo-nazi-website-praises-trumps-racist-remarks-58f40bbe7487/

Yep, Trump is really on the same page with racists.
 
You missed the meaning entirely. :roll:

Let me guess your a left winger and sure Detroit is a **** hole because a couple of white mayors back in the 50's.. :roll:

The problem is the constant blathering about how racist whites are. It has become a Self fulfiling prophecy, as by doing that YOU inflame the racist, in all of us. Are you lacking so much intelligence you can not understand the concept? YOUR left wing racism, so overplayed so many times, has caused the very thing it tries to pin on the right. IT is your problem to deal with now... Get it?

Or are you not a capable thinking being....

The left blathers on about how dumb Republicans are too. Did that also metastasize into a self-fulfilling prophecy? By inflaming the idiots on the right? Your analogy doesn't work only where you want it to work. Are YOU not a capable thinking being?
 
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I would think the praise Trump is getting from the Klan and Neo-Nazis would be proof that what he said was racist:



https://thinkprogress.org/infamous-neo-nazi-website-praises-trumps-racist-remarks-58f40bbe7487/

Yep, Trump is really on the same page with racists.

While I don't doubt the mental connection taking place, it isn't one that Trump has overtly courted. And a group siding with a public figure isn't the same as the public figure condoning the group.
 
While I don't doubt the mental connection taking place, it isn't one that Trump has overtly courted. And a group siding with a public figure isn't the same as the public figure condoning the group.

They're not simply siding with him. They're claiming that his comments validate their view.

People are arguing about whether his comments are racists. Well the racists think they are. Those offended think the are. Who is left to disagree?

The racism in his comment is not the insult. It's the idea that nationality is an indicator of quality. There are good and bad people in poor and rich countries. And immigrants from poor countries do better than American citizens. Trump specifically said he preferred people from certain nationalities.
 
They're not simply siding with him. They're claiming that his comments validate their view.

Well, I hadn't quite thought of it that way. But ... leave it to the Donald.

People are arguing about whether his comments are racists. Well the racists think they are. Those offended think the are. Who is left to disagree?

The racism in his comment is not the insult. It's the idea that nationality is an indicator of quality. There are good and bad people in poor and rich countries. And immigrants from poor countries do better than American citizens. Trump specifically said he preferred people from certain nationalities.

Norweigan, I believe. Apparently a Norweigan axe-murderer is better than a Somalian doctor when it comes to immigrants.
 
Not saying something denigrating to entire countries' populations is "crafting your words"??

I see your problem. That didn't happen.
 
I see your problem. That didn't happen.

So if the President told you that you lived in a ****hole neighborhood, you wouldn't think that maybe he was talking derisively about you and your neighbors?
 
They're not simply siding with him. They're claiming that his comments validate their view.

People are arguing about whether his comments are racists. Well the racists think they are. Those offended think the are. Who is left to disagree?

The racism in his comment is not the insult. It's the idea that nationality is an indicator of quality. There are good and bad people in poor and rich countries. And immigrants from poor countries do better than American citizens. Trump specifically said he preferred people from certain nationalities.

no, you see if 20% of the people in Norway had toilets and the education level was horrible and Trump knew the immigrants from Norway would be a burden to this country, then Trump would have called Norway a sh*thole. Pure and simple. It's the left(and the KKK) which has taken the extra leap that what Trump said and made the racial connection. People in Wisconsin and Michigan know exactly what he means, and they see what the left is doing to manipulate the story against Trump. but keep it up if it makes you feel better. It will mean nothing come election day. Heck, Trumps black support has gone UP, not down, since the election according to polls. how you like them apples?
 
Norweigan, I believe. Apparently a Norweigan axe-murderer is better than a Somalian doctor when it comes to immigrants.

And Trump is totally unaware of the cushy life that these Europeans live. They all get like 2 months vacation and years of maternity and paternity leave. They have free health care. They make plenty of money. They don't immigrate here. It's mostly poor people who come here. But even the diversity visa lottery has educational and vocational requirements. So the poor people we get are usually very motivated. Far more motivated than your ordinary American citizen.
 
So if the President told you that you lived in a ****hole neighborhood, you wouldn't think that maybe he was talking derisively about you and your neighbors?

I'd think it was probably because I lived in a ****hole neighborhood. Those exist, you know, just like ****hole countries. I know, I know...he used a mean word when actually telling the truth, and everyone knows it's the truth, but ya'll want to try and virtue-signal that reality away.
 
I'd think it was probably because I lived in a ****hole neighborhood. Those exist, you know, just like ****hole countries. I know, I know...he used a mean word when actually telling the truth, and everyone knows it's the truth, but ya'll want to try and virtue-signal that reality away.

sh**thole is not a truth. It's an insult.

Did you really live in a neighborhood that was inside a hole where people took sh**s in? No, you didn't. It's just an insult. Are you an a**hole? Is that a description or is it an insult?

Trump is just insulting poor people.
 
I'd think it was probably because I lived in a ****hole neighborhood. Those exist, you know, just like ****hole countries. I know, I know...he used a mean word when actually telling the truth, and everyone knows it's the truth, but ya'll want to try and virtue-signal that reality away.

I thought he said he didn't use that word?
 
I'd think it was probably because I lived in a ****hole neighborhood. Those exist, you know, just like ****hole countries. I know, I know...he used a mean word when actually telling the truth, and everyone knows it's the truth, but ya'll want to try and virtue-signal that reality away.

I'm not denying their existence. I take issue with him being unnecessarily a$$hole-ish when speaking of other countries in a meeting. Regardless of how much you dislike a friend's wife, you don't stand up and call her a bitch at the bar.
 
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