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APA Calls for End to 'Armchair' Psychiatry

Good. It is unprofessional for doctors to diagnose people publicly they have never examined. It is one thing for the general public to do it but licensed medical practitioners should be held to a higher standard. It seems to have gotten worse in the past couple years. We have phsyciatrists doing it to Trump now and we had MDs doing it to Hillary during the election. It is bad form altogether.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Good. It is unprofessional for doctors to diagnose people publicly they have never examined. It is one thing for the general public to do it but licensed medical practitioners should be held to a higher standard. It seems to have gotten worse in the past couple years. We have phsyciatrists doing it to Trump now and we had MDs doing it to Hillary during the election. It is bad form altogether.
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Were they MD's? I doubt it. More like right wing wannabe quacks.
 
bearpoker said:
Were they MD's? I doubt it. More like right wing wannabe quacks.
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I saw licensed physicians on TV speculating about the possible reasons for her coughing and tripping. I agree they were quacks, but they were licensed quacks.
 
bearpoker said:
Were they MD's? I doubt it. More like right wing wannabe quacks.
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These two quacks from Yale (named after a slave trader) are Liberal quacks.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I saw licensed physicians on TV speculating about the possible reasons for her coughing and tripping. I agree they were quacks, but they were licensed quacks.
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Big difference between diagnosing a physical illness and mental illness.
 
apdst said:
Big difference between diagnosing a physical illness and mental illness.
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Not really. In both cases it's just speculation unless the practitioner actually examine the patient and perform proper diagnostic tests.
 
apdst said:
Well, so much for that. :lamo

https://www.psychiatry.org/newsroom/news-releases/apa-calls-for-end-to-armchair-psychiatry
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Well finally! I am a certified counselor in one very specific narrow field, but even on that very limited basis, I have always understood how dangerous and unethical it is, except in a very general nature, to counsel somebody on the phone or internet where we are unable to visually assess a person's reactions and responses. And it is ingrained in us that we cannot diagnose somebody just by observing them on television or youtube or in a video or whatever. This armchair psychiatry trend has been really disturbing to me and I have wanted to scream or throw things at the truly unethical and incompetent people who purport to officially do that. And also those who have been taking them seriously and repeating it all over the internet.
 
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Skeptic Bob said:
I saw licensed physicians on TV speculating about the possible reasons for her coughing and tripping. I agree they were quacks, but they were licensed quacks.
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There are any number of reasons that people cough and/or experience occasional unsteadiness--I have had my own bout with both in recent years and the condition is now corrected which suggests I was neither terminal nor in any serious distress or impaired. For presumed professionals to speculate in the media and attempt to plant doubt in people's minds that a person is drunk or seriously ill or impaired based on a glimpse of an incident on TV is unethical, unprofessional, and when it is purely for political purposes, it can be evil.

There is plenty of valid criticism of Hillary Clinton without having to generate it or make stuff up.
 
apdst said:
Big difference between diagnosing a physical illness and mental illness.
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lol...ya, the ones diagnosing the physical illness were painting HRC in a bad light, and the others were painting Trump in a bad light... lol... Clearly we know which one you give a thumbs up to... Love ya, apdst, in a constantly shifting and changing world, you are completely reliable.
 
bearpoker said:
Not really. In both cases it's just speculation unless the practitioner actually examine the patient and perform proper diagnostic tests.
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Does guy have a compound fracture?
 
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OlNate said:
lol...ya, the ones diagnosing the physical illness were painting HRC in a bad light, and the others were painting Trump in a bad light... lol... Clearly we know which one you give a thumbs up to... Love ya, apdst, in a constantly shifting and changing world, you are completely reliable.
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But, when a shrink from Yale (that's named after a slave trader) says President Trump is mentally ill, you take it as the gospel. Yes?
 
apdst said:
But, when a shrink from Yale (that's named after a slave trader) says President Trump is mentally ill, you take it as the gospel. Yes?
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A slave trader? :lamo There was a slave trader named Brandy?

Stop it. Oh, God! Stop it. You're killing me. Let me catch my breath. Brandy the Slave Trader. :2rofll: :lamo
 
Risky Thicket said:
A slave trader? :lamo There was a slave trader named Brandy?

Stop it. Oh, God! Stop it. You're killing me. Let me catch my breath. Brandy the Slave Trader. :2rofll: :lamo
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Yale was a slave trader.
 
apdst said:
Does guy have a compound fracture?
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Is that a picture of Hillary? Didn't know she was so hairy. Only you would thing an injury was the same thing as an illness.
 
Risky Thicket said:
So what about CIA and DOD behavioral profiling? What is your position?
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I don't know about Adspt, but my position is that profiling is speculation. It's informed speculation that might be useful, but speculation none the less.
 
bearpoker said:
I don't know about Adspt, but my position is that profiling is speculation. It's informed speculation that might be useful, but speculation none the less.
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Stop altering my username.
 
bearpoker said:
Is that a picture of Hillary? Didn't know she was so hairy. Only you would thing an injury was the same thing as an illness.
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Can you diagnose that guy by looking at the photo?
 
apdst said:
But, when a shrink from Yale (that's named after a slave trader) says President Trump is mentally ill, you take it as the gospel. Yes?
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lol...no. And what's your obsession with slave traders in this thread? I feel like it's supposed to be some kind of gotcha moment, but I'm just not getting it......
 
apdst said:
Yale was a slave trader.
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Ahhh, you meant to say that it was the university that was named after a slave trader not the "shrink". That is not what you said.

Brandy Lee was, as far as we know, not named after a slave trader.

What does Mr. Yale's slave trading have to do with the APA and "Armchair Psychiatry"? I'm missing the connection.

Let me guess. Mr. Yale was once wrongfully accused of being a lunatic by a psychiatrist he'd never even met. Strangely the field of psychiatry didn't exist until well after Yale was dead. So are you suggesting that Yale wasn't bonkers just because he traded slaves and helped provide the funding for a college?

Or are you saying that Dr. Lee was named after Robert E. Lee? I am not aware that Bobby Lee traded slaves though he did own them. Wait ...are you suggesting that there is some kind of double secret armchair psychiatric connection between Yale University and Washington and Lee University? Wow! And Brandy Lee is involved in the coverup which apparently Trump discovered during his 2 years of intense study at Penn?

Brilliant!
 
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