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Haitians- Every word that comes out of this creeps mouth, the right owns.

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This pile of crap is speaking as the leader of his party and the fact that none of the people on the right on these forums or the politicians from his party ,simply won't discuss it or bring it up and if they do , they say what Ryan said that it was unfortunate. He is just another right wing hater but the people who are in that party and support their policy and say nothing are as guilty , these are the parties words , this are what they think. They own it 100%.
 
jbander said:
This pile of crap is speaking as the leader of his party and the fact that none of the people on the right on these forums or the politicians from his party ,simply won't discuss it or bring it up and if they do , they say what Ryan said that it was unfortunate. He is just another right wing hater but the people who are in that party and support their policy and say nothing are as guilty , these are the parties words , this are what they think. They own it 100%.
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Before Trump is was not politically correct to decline to have neighbors who’s major accomplishment in life was steering a water Buffalo with a stick, and pumping out kids.

No one asked the citizenry if we wanted to increase our population in 1978 from 220 million to 325 million in 2017, and all the social disintegration that went with it.
 
Further, since Haiti is cited in the thread title, it is listed high on the list of the world's most corrupt governments which is why most of its 11 million citizens are so poor and remain poor despite billions of dollars of aid being poured into that tiny nation and so little is used to make things better. When the government is corrupt and allows/sponsors corruption, the people are unlikely to enjoy much in the way of relief from abject poverty, lack of human rights, lack of much opportunity to improve their situation.

The world is full of such corrupt and poverty stricken nations and there is no way the USA can take more poor who require more than they contribute without making ourselves poorer.

Almost all more prosperous nations recognize and respect human rights and promote and encourage prosperity. Even their hardcore poor are made more comfortable in poverty. And most if not all prosperous nations are so prosperous because of the actions and example of the United States of America. We were the original role model of how a nation becomes successful and prosperous not via force but by protecting individual liberties and encouraging prosperity of the people.

Countries like Haiti, Puerto Rico, Mexico, many African nations have governments that take care of themselves and the people can be damned for so much as their government cares about them, even as they blame US for their misery.

This is by no means the whole list but the top tier of most corrupt countries as of 2015:
These Are the Most Corrupt Countries In the World | Fortune
--North Korea
--Somalia
--Afghanistan
--Sudan
--Angola
--South Sudan
--Iraq
--Lybia
--Haiti
--Guinea--Bissau
--Venezuela

It would be wonderful to help all the unfortunate people in those countries, but if we keep taking on people who require more of us than we can contribute, we become ever closer to the condition of the countries they left. And we become less and less able to be either a role model or benefactor to those who need immediate help.
 
chuckiechan said:
Before Trump is was not politically correct to decline to have neighbors who’s major accomplishment in life was steering a water Buffalo with a stick, and pumping out kids.

No one asked the citizenry if we wanted to increase our population in 1978 from 220 million to 325 million in 2017, and all the social disintegration that went with it.
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Just a technicality, our population was 223M in 1978, not 220M. Nonetheless, that would mean our population increased 45.7% over the 39 years from 1978 to 2017. For the 39 years from 1939 to 1978 it increased 67.9%. So, I don’t see what your point is there. I couldn’t get a final immigration figure for 2017. So, using the 38 years from 1978 to 2016, immigration increased 34.1M or 33.3% of the 103M total population increase. From 1940 to 1978 immigration increased 9.8M or 11.1% of the 88M increase in the general population. Quite a difference. Let’s take a look at a more complete picture, though. In the 38 years from 1901 to 1939, immigration increased by 19.0M or 35.8% of the general population increase. Practically the same as the last 38 years.

Population by year:

US Population by Year

Immigration by year:

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/pro...Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents

We can more accurately add illegal immigrants to the mix over the last 38 or 39 years than before, but the following is an excerpt from the link given further below:

‘It’s important to understand this in order to understand ongoing American debates about the future course of US immigration policy because, during the entire period from 1942 to 1964, more Mexicans were repatriated as illegal entrants to the United States, as were legally admitted to legal employment as temporary foreign workers.’

The history of illegal immigration in the United States - Rear Vision - ABC Radio National (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

That your “steering a water Buffalo with a stick” “pumping out kids” and “social disintegration” opinions are based on a lack of reasoning and intolerance makes for prejudice and bigotry. Perhaps if you were back in 1939 after 38 years of the same percentage immigration growth as the last 38 years you’d be saying the same thing.

Immigration historically has its ebbs and flows. The fact is, we are a nation of immigrants and have been since Plymouth Rock.
 
chuckiechan said:
Before Trump is was not politically correct to decline to have neighbors who’s major accomplishment in life was steering a water Buffalo with a stick, and pumping out kids.

No one asked the citizenry if we wanted to increase our population in 1978 from 220 million to 325 million in 2017, and all the social disintegration that went with it.
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Really?
You do know American Muslims (one invented your iPhone genius) are better educated and earn more than rubes like you?
And 45 % of Haitians have college degrees?
Apologies, I missed your college details
Guess you don't have the brains of my cal daughter who started a $150MM business?
Where do you live?
In the wilds of Mississippi?
 
YorkshirePete said:
Really?
You do know American Muslims (one invented your iPhone genius) are better educated and earn more than rubes like you?
And 45 % of Haitians have college degrees?
Apologies, I missed your college details
Guess you don't have the brains of my cal daughter who started a $150MM business?
Where do you live?
In the wilds of Mississippi?
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Why not 100 million Chinese and 100 million Indians. Plenty of brainy people in that group. We can keep stuffing them in our cities.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Further, since Haiti is cited in the thread title, it is listed high on the list of the world's most corrupt governments which is why most of its 11 million citizens are so poor and remain poor despite billions of dollars of aid being poured into that tiny nation and so little is used to make things better. When the government is corrupt and allows/sponsors corruption, the people are unlikely to enjoy much in the way of relief from abject poverty, lack of human rights, lack of much opportunity to improve their situation.

The world is full of such corrupt and poverty stricken nations and there is no way the USA can take more poor who require more than they contribute without making ourselves poorer.

Almost all more prosperous nations recognize and respect human rights and promote and encourage prosperity. Even their hardcore poor are made more comfortable in poverty. And most if not all prosperous nations are so prosperous because of the actions and example of the United States of America. We were the original role model of how a nation becomes successful and prosperous not via force but by protecting individual liberties and encouraging prosperity of the people.

Countries like Haiti, Puerto Rico, Mexico, many African nations have governments that take care of themselves and the people can be damned for so much as their government cares about them, even as they blame US for their misery.

This is by no means the whole list but the top tier of most corrupt countries as of 2015:
These Are the Most Corrupt Countries In the World | Fortune
--North Korea
--Somalia
--Afghanistan
--Sudan
--Angola
--South Sudan
--Iraq
--Lybia
--Haiti
--Guinea--Bissau
--Venezuela

It would be wonderful to help all the unfortunate people in those countries, but if we keep taking on people who require more of us than we can contribute, we become ever closer to the condition of the countries they left. And we become less and less able to be either a role model or benefactor to those who need immediate help.
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Your talking a lot of common sense there, us Trumpsters understand but those brain dead liberals won’t understand that. I mean you didn’t even us the word racist one time, how do you expect them to comprehend it.


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MrShangles said:
Your talking a lot of common sense there, us Trumpsters understand but those brain dead liberals won’t understand that. I mean you didn’t even us the word racist one time, how do you expect them to comprehend it.


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And I'm pretty darn sure the President didn't mention race at any time in that meeting either. But he criticized countries that aren't lily white and in I-hate-everything-Trump mentality, that made it racist. It is just mind boggling.
 
bluesmoke said:
Just a technicality, our population was 223M in 1978, not 220M. Nonetheless, that would mean our population increased 45.7% over the 39 years from 1978 to 2017. For the 39 years from 1939 to 1978 it increased 67.9%. So, I don’t see what your point is there. I couldn’t get a final immigration figure for 2017. So, using the 38 years from 1978 to 2016, immigration increased 34.1M or 33.3% of the 103M total population increase. From 1940 to 1978 immigration increased 9.8M or 11.1% of the 88M increase in the general population. Quite a difference. Let’s take a look at a more complete picture, though. In the 38 years from 1901 to 1939, immigration increased by 19.0M or 35.8% of the general population increase. Practically the same as the last 38 years.

Population by year:

US Population by Year

Immigration by year:

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/pro...Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents

We can more accurately add illegal immigrants to the mix over the last 38 or 39 years than before, but the following is an excerpt from the link given further below:

‘It’s important to understand this in order to understand ongoing American debates about the future course of US immigration policy because, during the entire period from 1942 to 1964, more Mexicans were repatriated as illegal entrants to the United States, as were legally admitted to legal employment as temporary foreign workers.’

The history of illegal immigration in the United States - Rear Vision - ABC Radio National (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

That your “steering a water Buffalo with a stick” “pumping out kids” and “social disintegration” opinions are based on a lack of reasoning and intolerance makes for prejudice and bigotry. Perhaps if you were back in 1939 after 38 years of the same percentage immigration growth as the last 38 years you’d be saying the same thing.

Immigration historically has its ebbs and flows. The fact is, we are a nation of immigrants and have been since Plymouth Rock.
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What he is saying is what the rest of that hate group is saying that they are Bigots , who this country would be better off not having , give me the Haitians and get rid of these hater.
 
chuckiechan said:
Why not 100 million Chinese and 100 million Indians. Plenty of brainy people in that group. We can keep stuffing them in our cities.
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Immigrants have made this country what it is , and these haters that puke out their nasty remarks about Colored people and ethnic groups that they have had put on the right wing hate list by their controllers , as driven home by the hate that spewed from the mouth of their President Scum bag. There has never been a time in history, till now, that a president had the support of the KKK, the White supremacists and the Nazi party all at the same time. These groups are very representative of who supports this scum bag through the hate party. Throw in the generic Bigot and you have 90% of scum bags support. I would take the Haitians any day over these haters. They would come here and build this country, while the haters are doing only one thing and that is destroying this country , They have to go.
 
MrShangles said:
Your talking a lot of common sense there, us Trumpsters understand but those brain dead liberals won’t understand that. I mean you didn’t even us the word racist one time, how do you expect them to comprehend it.


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This guy thinks that his president isn't a racist, that his hate party isn't racist and that he isn't racist. That's the lie these characters live in.
 
AlbqOwl said:
And I'm pretty darn sure the President didn't mention race at any time in that meeting either. But he criticized countries that aren't lily white and in I-hate-everything-Trump mentality, that made it racist. It is just mind boggling.
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Funny , he thinks that the word race being used is a prerequisite to being a racist
 
The right wing hate group is so far gone at this point that they say they are not racist as they say something racist. Has anyone else noticed that. They think their party doesn't deserve the racist label. I say any group that 51% of them are racist makes the group racist. and they are way over 50% racist in number in their party. I believe that the renaming of the republican party to the hate party got there the same way as I described above, over 50% voted for scum bag for his hate message and that makes the group a hate group . So it's obvious why their name has been changed to the hate party.
 
jbander said:
The right wing hate group is so far gone at this point that they say they are not racist as they say something racist. Has anyone else noticed that. They think their party doesn't deserve the racist label. I say any group that 51% of them are racist makes the group racist. and they are way over 50% racist in number in their party. I believe that the renaming of the republican party to the hate party got there the same way as I described above, over 50% voted for scum bag for his hate message and that makes the group a hate group . So it's obvious why their name has been changed to the hate party.
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Not all conservatives are racist bigots. The far-right tends to be much more vocal than regular conservatives, so it appears as if they're becoming more racist.
 
Soopairik said:
Not all conservatives are racist bigots. The far-right tends to be much more vocal than regular conservatives, so it appears as if they're becoming more racist.
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Didn't say they all were but I did say that over 50% were that make the group bigots.
 
jbander said:
This guy thinks that his president isn't a racist, that his hate party isn't racist and that he isn't racist. That's the lie these characters live in.
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Should be easy for you to explain, right.
What has he said that isn’t true, sorry it hurts your wittle feelings but just because something said is hurtful doesn’t make it racist.


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Has ANYONE on this thread, or ANY related thread, ever considered the notion that a goodly number of people who come FROM a so called "sh*thole country" are intent on making the most of a better country and may well be willing to embrace anything and everything that their new home is about?

When RUSSIANS came to the United States during the recent USSR collapse, a majority of them came with the intent of being good Americans, when Italians came, same thing, when Irish came...oh Hell FORGET IT, just erase that slogan at the base of The Statue of Liberty, because this society has become so sick that it cannot appreciate the concepts that this nation was even founded on anymore.

The more we tolerate talk of "sh*thole countries", the more it turns THIS country into a sh*thole, because sh*thole countries start off on their journey to the bottom by having sh*thole attitudes.

This week's selection in the book club:

"The Ugly American"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ugly_American
 
AlbqOwl said:
And I'm pretty darn sure the President didn't mention race at any time in that meeting either. But he criticized countries that aren't lily white and in I-hate-everything-Trump mentality, that made it racist. It is just mind boggling.
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The only thing mindboggling is the kind of mental gymnastics of self-delusion needed to deny Trump is a racist.

While much of the world united in condemnation, American neo-Nazi Mr Anglin said: “This is encouraging and refreshing, as it indicates Trump is more or less on the same page as us with regards to race and immigration.”
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Neo-Nazis say Donald Trump's 'sh**hole countries' comments show he thinks like them | The Independent
 
jbander said:
The right wing hate group is so far gone at this point that they say they are not racist as they say something racist. Has anyone else noticed that. They think their party doesn't deserve the racist label. I say any group that 51% of them are racist makes the group racist. and they are way over 50% racist in number in their party. I believe that the renaming of the republican party to the hate party got there the same way as I described above, over 50% voted for scum bag for his hate message and that makes the group a hate group . So it's obvious why their name has been changed to the hate party.
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I don't think I've seen a more ridiculous statement than this in some time. #triggered
 
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