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Trump is not a racist, so says African-American man

This is the same president that wanted a “bill of love” (now that made me cringe) for the DACA folks.
 
rocket88 said:
Are you turning on your Great One?
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Ok, now I understand your question. I wasn’t sure if you were asking me something really personal or asking if I was listening to Mark Levin. When Trump was running I had grave concerns that he was just going to be Obama-lite. In his time in office, that has not proven to be the case, so no, I support him now more than I did before. That doesn’t mean, though, I’m blind to the fact that he has very glaring faults. I just have to decide what is important and what isn’t.
 
I don't care if some avuncular thomas doesn't think he's racist, his hand isn't on the pulse of people of color who feel marginalized by this president.
 
Desert Storm said:
Trump is not a racist, so says Martin Luther King Jr's nephew who had meeting with the President
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Calling someone racist is cliche. Leftists have overused the word as to make it meaningless.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
I don't care if some avuncular thomas doesn't think he's racist, his hand isn't on the pulse of people of color who feel marginalized by this president.
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Are you a person of color? Do you feel marginalized?

If not, how do you know this? Are you qualified to speak for people of color? How?
 
DamnYankee said:
Calling someone racist is cliche. Leftists have overused the word as to make it meaningless.
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No, not if the person in question exhibits and engages in racisim it's not cliche. It's accurate. But I understand why some people have to desperately pretend that the word is now meaningless.

Trump is, by any reasonable, rational measure, a racist.
 
Desert Storm said:
Agreed.

I do think Trump is a bit culturally insensitive though, he needs to work on that
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I love that shade of lip gloss, what is it called? :lamo
 
holbritter said:
Are you a person of color? Do you feel marginalized?

If not, how do you know this? Are you qualified to speak for people of color? How?
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Dio you have to be a person of colour to recognise racism? Is one person's opinion reflective of all people?

As usual, only half of what he said was quoted. He also said that Trump was "racially ignorant and uninformed."
 
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X Factor said:
Ok, now I understand your question. I wasn’t sure if you were asking me something really personal or asking if I was listening to Mark Levin. When Trump was running I had grave concerns that he was just going to be Obama-lite. In his time in office, that has not proven to be the case, so no, I support him now more than I did before. That doesn’t mean, though, I’m blind to the fact that he has very glaring faults. I just have to decide what is important and what isn’t.
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So racism doesn't qualify as an important thing?

I support him more now than I did before as well, but I started from zero, so....
 
Manc Skipper said:
Dio you have to be a person of colour to recognise racism? Is one person's opinion reflective of all people?

As usual, only half of what he said was quoted. He also said that Trump was "racially ignorant and uninformed."
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to recognize racism, no. to speak for someone else and how THEY feel, yes.
 
Desert Storm:

President Trump is not a "racist in the traditional sense". What does that mean? He has repeatedly and publicly attacked or belittled people because of their ethnic and racial origins, from Korean women "negotiators", to Latinos coming from Mexico and points south, to sitting American judges, from First Nations Americans to Semetic Arabs. He has instituted, unsuccessfully so far, race-based and ethnicly-based programmes which discriminate against large communities of people like Latinos and Arabs (Walls, expulsions/deportations and immigration/travel bans). President Trump has become the darling of the more racist elements of the Alt-Right including the hardcore White Supremacist movement, which he tried to partially excuse for its overt racism last summer. He is recently alleged to have declared African countries to be "sh**holes" and has expressed a perference for having Norwegians immigrate to the USA in place of Africans from Africa and Haiti and Latinos from El Salvador and other parts of Central and South America.

So in the sense that he is not a white-sheet-wearing, cross-burning, violent-lynching, full-blown member of the Heroes of the Firey Cross or the KKK or that he is not a vocal advocate of the Chinese Exclusion Act, promoting racial purification by vigilante violence, forced racial segregation and wholesale deportation, then he is not a traditional racist of the most extreme degree. But that does not mean he is not a "racist in any traditional sense". It just means he is less racist than the most extreme strains of American racism which have historically existed in the USA. His words and actions betray him for what he really is. A bigoted and prejudicial racist who is using his considerable political power to act upon those racist impulses or compulsions in order to change his society by advancing the interests of certain ethnic and racial groups present in America at the expense of other ethnic and racial groups.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
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DamnYankee said:
Calling someone racist is cliche. Leftists have overused the word as to make it meaningless.
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'In the absence of a better understanding of culture-clash, the easy, lazy or mistaken response is ‘racist’.
Or more precisely, ‘RACIST!’ And that is where the debate ends with those who have acquired a fondness for the word.'
 
This week our President Trump paid tribute to the memory of Dr. MLK.
This has to be a shell shocker to the liberal/Demos who keep claiming about our President not liking people of color.
President Trump is for all...like it or not.
What proof do the liberal/Demos need ???
 
X Factor said:
Ok, now I understand your question. I wasn’t sure if you were asking me something really personal or asking if I was listening to Mark Levin. When Trump was running I had grave concerns that he was just going to be Obama-lite. In his time in office, that has not proven to be the case, so no, I support him now more than I did before. That doesn’t mean, though, I’m blind to the fact that he has very glaring faults. I just have to decide what is important and what isn’t.
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Well said. Yes, the President is a sinner as we all are and as all former presidents are/were. He gets it wrong sometimes as we all do and as all former presidents did. But those of us who support him allow him to be a sinner, allow him to be wrong so long as he is trying to accomplish good, get it more right, do it better. And I honestly believe he is trying which is generally better than most people's best.

He is thoroughly politically incorrect which many of us prefer to intellectual dishonesty (which he generally is not guilty of), but that doesn't really matter because the haters and sufferers of Trump derangement syndrome would make anything he says politically incorrect regardless. The President is not intellectually dishonest, but many of his strongest, angriest, and more hateful critics mostly are. As well as hypocrites or just plain dishonest.

The President sometimes comes across as petulant or even petty. None of us like that about him--he does on occasion say some cringeworthy things--but we can let Trump be Trump so long as he continues to do his best to fulfill the vision that inspired us to elect him. He doesn't carry a grudge though and he seldom hits his opponents when they are down and I like that about him.

I suspect none of us who voted for President Trump or who have come to perhaps grudgingly admire what he has accomplished thought we were electing a saint or icon of virtue or even a particularly admirable role model. We saw the problems long before election day. But we were sick to death of a status quo and failed policies that had put America into a slow decline and I believe accurately knew that if that continued it would become a death spiral and the USA would become something very different from the America we have known and love.

If the trump haters are not able to destroy them as they intend to do, I believe we elected the man best suited and qualified to turn that around and put us back on the best track to restore our liberties and justice for all and opportunities and choices that lead to prosperity.

No matter how they twist and interpret what he says and/or put words in his mouth, I honestly believe the man does not have a racist bone in his body. But they'll keep up that drum beat because they can't afford to allow him to succeed in anything. If he does, he exposes them as how wrong they have been.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, not if the person in question exhibits and engages in racisim it's not cliche. It's accurate. But I understand why some people have to desperately pretend that the word is now meaningless.

Trump is, by any reasonable, rational measure, a racist.
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True....I mean, eventually there actually was a wolf but no one believed the boy due to all the other times there wasn't.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, not if the person in question exhibits and engages in racisim it's not cliche. It's accurate. But I understand why some people have to desperately pretend that the word is now meaningless.

Trump is, by any reasonable, rational measure, a racist
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To me a real racist is someone who sits at home with white power magazines or KKK hats.

I will concede however that Trump is racially insensitive, and needs to come to grips with that
 
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