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Google: Be Evil

Gaius46 said:
Google has 75% of the search market. #2 is Baidu - thanks to a largely captive Chinese market. Bing, the #3 search engine has 1/10th the market share of Google. Google is a de facto monopoly.
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A monopoly is when you don't have any other choice for the service, or (to me) a choice of another service that does the same thing just as well.

I use duckduckgo, then bing, then google. There are others. I don't like being tracked and fed ads by google.
https://duckduckgo.com/
The Daily Caller is something I would ignore anyway. Tucker Carlson can write his own engine and pop his website to the top of the list. When "the providers" get done with net neutrality, Tucker can cough up a bunch of cash or become insignificant on the web.
 
iliveonramen said:
They don't though. You can type in Bing or Yahoo, make that your home page, and Google has no control whatsoever of what you see. Changing search engines is literally one of the easiest things a consumer can change.
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This is why I personally use DuckDuckGo, but come on, you know most people are sticking with Google and that they can easily sway public opinion.
 
Gaius46 said:
I'll concede at the start that a private company Google is free to do whatever it wants. But given that Google gatekeeper to much information that is essentially public they have, in my view, an ethical obligation to serve up search results without comment. Otherwise they can effectively sway the conversation especially with people who aren't apt to look at things critically.

In truth I'm not comfortable with Google - or any company - in the role of gatekeeper. The Internet is in essence a electronic version of the public square. Having any whiff of private control over it is potentially anti-free speech.
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That definitely is a problem, even with all of media. Although there are other search engines but google, google just happens to be the most popular .There are no anti-trust enforcement anymore. Companies are owning their entire supply chain, buying up all the competition, and we are suffering for it. And worse, a handful of these mega companies control all the media, they control the narrative.

And its ridiculous to say these mega companies who benefit from tax breaks are against conservatives. THe rich who continue to get richer because republican keep cutting their taxes
 
phattonez said:
This is why I personally use DuckDuckGo, but come on, you know most people are sticking with Google and that they can easily sway public opinion.
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Of course they will stick with Google because it's a great browser.

I'm not sure why Google though is responsible for protecting Conservatives feelings. "Fake News" as conservatives call it is something that is in the news and has people concerned. Adding that panel so that people can see how trustworthy a site is. Seems to me exactly the sort of thing a company would do to add value. They don't need to create some Missouri Compromise situation where every conservative site negatively labeled requires a liberal site.
 
iliveonramen said:
Of course they will stick with Google because it's a great browser.

I'm not sure why Google though is responsible for protecting Conservatives feelings. "Fake News" as conservatives call it is something that is in the news and has people concerned. Adding that panel so that people can see how trustworthy a site is. Seems to me exactly the sort of thing a company would do to add value. They don't need to create some Missouri Compromise situation where every conservative site negatively labeled requires a liberal site.
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Many conservatives rely on fake news, they don't have fact on their side. So they have been brainwashed by fox to claim anything they don't want to believe is biased against them. So I can see why they hate fact checking.

The ironic thing is, they are like trolls (just like Trump) and are saying things that actually fit them perfectly. I can't believe how acceptable this pathetic behavior has become. It's all because of Fox news, completely have brainwashed millions of people.
 
iliveonramen said:
Of course they will stick with Google because it's a great browser.

I'm not sure why Google though is responsible for protecting Conservatives feelings. "Fake News" as conservatives call it is something that is in the news and has people concerned. Adding that panel so that people can see how trustworthy a site is. Seems to me exactly the sort of thing a company would do to add value. They don't need to create some Missouri Compromise situation where every conservative site negatively labeled requires a liberal site.
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How would you feel if the telephone company had reviews of your neighbors, ranking their trustworthiness before you call them? Do you really think that the telephone company should be involved in that at all?
 
phattonez said:
How would you feel if the telephone company had reviews of your neighbors, ranking their trustworthiness before you call them? Do you really think that the telephone company should be involved in that at all?
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I'm not sure how a telephone company would rank trustworthiness of my neighbors and how meaningful that number would even be. I do trust though that everytime I Google something and that Yelp review pop's up that it is worthwhile to pay attention to.

Also, if I found the practices of the telephone company annoying I would just switch providers which is MUCH more difficult to do than to use another browser.
 
iliveonramen said:
I'm not sure how a telephone company would rank trustworthiness of my neighbors and how meaningful that number would even be. I do trust though that everytime I Google something and that Yelp review pop's up that it is worthwhile to pay attention to.
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Yelp is a review company. It is not a search engine with a de facto monopoly. What Google is doing is exactly like the situation that I provided as an analogy.

Also, if I found the practices of the telephone company annoying I would just switch providers which is MUCH more difficult to do than to use another browser.
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What are you going to do if the telephone company has a bad review of you, and that telephone company owns a 90% market share?
 
Harshaw said:
A cursory test on Google.

Sites which have no "review":

DailyKos
Alternet
Mother Jones
Vox
Crooks and Liars
TheRawStory
The Daily Beast
Talking Points Memo
ThinkProgess
The New Republic
The Nation
Politicus USA
The American Prospect

The Hill

National Review
The Weekly Standard
Reason Magazine
RedState
Townhall
Human Events
American Thinker



Sites which have "review":

Commentary Magazine
The Federalist
The Daily Wire
Daily Caller



Occupy Democrats
Palmer Report
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Point made. Mother jones. Lol.


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Free market. If you don't like it, boycott. Google has a right to present any information however they want. All the leftists in this thread calling for the government to intervene clearly have no understanding of the Constitution.
 
Gaius46 said:
Google has 75% of the search market. #2 is Baidu - thanks to a largely captive Chinese market. Bing, the #3 search engine has 1/10th the market share of Google. Google is a de facto monopoly.
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Google is not a monopoly. Please learn what words actually mean.
 
LowDown said:
Google's Fact-Checking Is Liberal Bias | The Daily Caller

When a monopoly organization like Google comes down hard on one side of the political spectrum the obvious remedy is anti-trust action. Google could be split into 8 or 10 smaller companies to ensure competition and fairness. I would be surprised is the DoJ isn't considering that now. If not they should be.

Twitter and Facebook could use the same treatment.
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If right-wing websites weren't so full of ****, this wouldn't be so lopsided. Hope this helps!
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Google is not a monopoly. Please learn what words actually mean.
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Okay so yes a monopoly is the only game in town. 75% market share is pretty damn close to the only game in town.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
A monopoly is when you don't have any other choice for the service, or (to me) a choice of another service that does the same thing just as well.

I use duckduckgo, then bing, then google. There are others. I don't like being tracked and fed ads by google.
https://duckduckgo.com/
The Daily Caller is something I would ignore anyway. Tucker Carlson can write his own engine and pop his website to the top of the list. When "the providers" get done with net neutrality, Tucker can cough up a bunch of cash or become insignificant on the web.
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Honestly I default to google pretty much all the time out of laziness and because it usually gives me relevant results. I'm going to try duckduckgo through. Thx
 
Critter7r said:
Google may be "almost" a monopoly, "virtually" a monopoly, "practically" a monopoly, or "about as good as" a monopoly, but they are not "de facto" a monopoly.
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Well I'm just a lowly engineer who knows very little of economics except for what I learned in two semesters in college way back in the stone age. What then is the word for a company that has such an overwhelming market share that they effectively control the market?
 
iliveonramen said:
They don't though. You can type in Bing or Yahoo, make that your home page, and Google has no control whatsoever of what you see. Changing search engines is literally one of the easiest things a consumer can change.
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I don't disagree. Most people don't though.
 
LowDown said:
Google's Fact-Checking Is Liberal Bias | The Daily Caller

When a monopoly organization like Google comes down hard on one side of the political spectrum the obvious remedy is anti-trust action. Google could be split into 8 or 10 smaller companies to ensure competition and fairness. I would be surprised is the DoJ isn't considering that now. If not they should be.

Twitter and Facebook could use the same treatment.
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Your victim card seems to be broken.

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Cry Moar!
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Google is not a monopoly.

Please try again.
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As the largest search engine by far with a huge ad presence and dominance in other areas as well Google is a monopolistic enterprise by any standard.
 
iliveonramen said:
Of course they will stick with Google because it's a great browser.

I'm not sure why Google though is responsible for protecting Conservatives feelings. "Fake News" as conservatives call it is something that is in the news and has people concerned. Adding that panel so that people can see how trustworthy a site is. Seems to me exactly the sort of thing a company would do to add value. They don't need to create some Missouri Compromise situation where every conservative site negatively labeled requires a liberal site.
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If this blow torch were turned on you you'd see the problem soon enough.

Most likely you'll feel the pain soon enough. The left always eats its own eventually.

In the meantime the issue of basic fairness is dead, I suppose. And we will remember that.
 
Google is a liberal monopoly with racist practices. The problem is they are so large it's hard to boycott.
 
Well even if it's true that only conservative sites are being fact checked, if the conservative sites are conveying verifiable facts, then what's the issue? It should only concern you if those sites are making stuff up and being called out...
 
Google does not have a monopoly, so that is mistake No.1, secondly not all sites are reviewed as they claim, and third the Daily Caller is simply PO'ed because they were identified for what they are, too bad.
 
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