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Trump "hopes" to pass immigration reform on a bipartisan basis. WTF!

Vetplus40

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Hopefully, 2018 will be the year that somebody is successful in educating our "Super Genius" POTUS how the legislative process works because he obviously doesn't have a "freaken" clue. In 2017, he actually operated as though he is president of "The USA corporation". Probably why Tillerson called him a "moron". Maybe 2018 will be the year he actually learns how to be POTUS. In the meantime, since it is obvious that Trump doesn't understand how it works, that likely means that many of his "rah rah" supporters don't either. As such, here is your primer:

Immigration reform is NOT eligible to be passed under the Reconciliation Act, and cannot be passed with a simple majority. As such, any bills regarding immigration WILL require a filibuster proof Super Majority.

Given the current make-up of the Senate (where the heavy lifting will occur) Trump will need SEVERAL DEMOCRATS to vote for his legislation. As such, Trump will have to do more than "hope" for Democratic support. Unlike his "self serving" tax bill, he can't do this one without them..............:)
 
Vetplus40 said:
Hopefully, 2018 will be the year that somebody is successful in educating our "Super Genius" POTUS how the legislative process works because he obviously doesn't have a "freaken" clue. In 2017, he actually operated as though he is president of "The USA corporation". Probably why Tillerson called him a "moron". Maybe 2018 will be the year he actually learns how to be POTUS. In the meantime, since it is obvious that Trump doesn't understand how it works, that likely means that many of his "rah rah" supporters don't either. As such, here is your primer:

Immigration reform is NOT eligible to be passed under the Reconciliation Act, and cannot be passed with a simple majority. As such, any bills regarding immigration WILL require a filibuster proof Super Majority.

Given the current make-up of the Senate (where the heavy lifting will occur) Trump will need SEVERAL DEMOCRATS to vote for his legislation. As such, Trump will have to do more than "hope" for Democratic support. Unlike his "self serving" tax bill, he can't do this one without them..............:)
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I wonder how Conservatives will feel about their border, "fence."
 
Vetplus40 said:
Hopefully, 2018 will be the year that somebody is successful in educating our "Super Genius" POTUS how the legislative process works because he obviously doesn't have a "freaken" clue. In 2017, he actually operated as though he is president of "The USA corporation". Probably why Tillerson called him a "moron". Maybe 2018 will be the year he actually learns how to be POTUS. In the meantime, since it is obvious that Trump doesn't understand how it works, that likely means that many of his "rah rah" supporters don't either. As such, here is your primer:

Immigration reform is NOT eligible to be passed under the Reconciliation Act, and cannot be passed with a simple majority. As such, any bills regarding immigration WILL require a filibuster proof Super Majority.

Given the current make-up of the Senate (where the heavy lifting will occur) Trump will need SEVERAL DEMOCRATS to vote for his legislation. As such, Trump will have to do more than "hope" for Democratic support. Unlike his "self serving" tax bill, he can't do this one without them..............:)
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Immigration laws are already on the books, democrats will need that super majority.
Trump is offering DACA for the wall,


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Vetplus40 said:
Hopefully, 2018 will be the year that somebody is successful in educating our "Super Genius" POTUS how the legislative process works because he obviously doesn't have a "freaken" clue. In 2017, he actually operated as though he is president of "The USA corporation". Probably why Tillerson called him a "moron". Maybe 2018 will be the year he actually learns how to be POTUS. In the meantime, since it is obvious that Trump doesn't understand how it works, that likely means that many of his "rah rah" supporters don't either. As such, here is your primer:

Immigration reform is NOT eligible to be passed under the Reconciliation Act, and cannot be passed with a simple majority. As such, any bills regarding immigration WILL require a filibuster proof Super Majority.

Given the current make-up of the Senate (where the heavy lifting will occur) Trump will need SEVERAL DEMOCRATS to vote for his legislation. As such, Trump will have to do more than "hope" for Democratic support. Unlike his "self serving" tax bill, he can't do this one without them..............:)
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What Trump hopes is that republicants won't cave to demorats and allow DACA (and DAPA?) to pass without including paying for Mexico's border wall, adding (funding) more border and interior enforcement personnel, ending chain and lottery immigration priority and perhaps even easing the country into accepting eVerify (a national ID system?). I agree that Trump needs demorat support but also hope that he actually stands his ground here unlike his major cave to preserve the nonsense of special federal income tax treatment for "carried interest".

It is not demorats in congress that Trump must worry about it is republicants in congress that may decide that special interests (aka major campaign cash providers) like the current lax immigration law enforcement so they do (must?) as well. That is exactly what happened to his TrumpCare plan which didn't even materialize for a floor vote.
 
MrShangles said:
Immigration laws are already on the books, democrats will need that super majority.
Trump is offering DACA for the wall,


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Yep, and that yielded in excess of 12 million folks (doing quite a bit of "anchor baby" begetting) that illegally "slipped through the cracks" and many, many millions more that immigrated here legally mostly via chain migration rather than meeting any merit based criteria. Refusing to enact immigration reform is not seen as a good thing by many and was one of Trump's main campaign promises.
 
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