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Trumps' refutation of Fire and Fury

Fletch said:
Does it? Or does it speak only to your anger and hatred for all things Trump.
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An accusation made by Fletch - someone who calls all with whom he disagrees "hateful and childish".

Oh, the irony :) :doh :failpail:
 
Fletch said:
Who is being hurt?
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Muslims, minorities, LGBT, immigrants, the poor. Everyone under the worst of the nuclear threat: NK, SK, Japan. The environment. Women.
 
Praxas said:
You think temper tantrums with North Korea with (my button is bigger than your button) is agreeable for you? Do you agree that tax breaks for the wealthy should have happened when they are already sitting on more cash then they ever have? Like I said, you are for corporate shills. You agree with Trump's creation of a voting fraud panel just because he lost the popular vote and his ego can't take it? You agree with him lying about his inauguration size? That's sad man, really sad on your part. He is the biggest embarrassment as president we have ever had.
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I guess you cant calm down. I don't have a problem with what he says to Un. I will be getting a tax cut and I'm not rich so I support that. Don't care about the voting fraud panel or the inauguration crap. The difference between the Trump haters and the Trump supporters is that you haters focus on the insignificant thing he does and we focus on the significant things he does.
 
Verax said:
Muslims, minorities, LGBT, immigrants, the poor. Everyone under the worst of the nuclear threat: NK, SK, Japan. The environment. Women.
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And how are each of those groups being hurt?
 
lurchadams said:
An accusation made by Fletch - someone who calls all with whom he disagrees "hateful and childish".

Oh, the irony :) :doh :failpail:
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I don't call everyone I disagree with hateful and childish, just the hateful and childish ones.
 
Fletch said:
And how are each of those groups being hurt?
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I'm not going to walk you through the history of 2017. It JUST Happened.
 
lurchadams said:
Trump obsesses over his public image and ends up looking like a child trying to defend it.
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I agree with that.
A stable, mature person, respectful of the office they hold wouldn't behave like Trump does.

Trump IS unstable.
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I agree he could be less childish and more respectful, but I don't think that means he is unstable.
 
Fletch said:
I don't call everyone I disagree with hateful and childish, just the hateful and childish ones.
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Here you go:

Fletch said:
The guy says and does some very childish things, but that doesn't mean he is somehow unfit to be president. If hatred and childishness prevent someone from holding office, no liberal could run against him in 2020.
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Verax said:
I'm not going to walk you through the history of 2017. It JUST Happened.
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I know. And none of those groups were 'hurt' by anything Trump did.
 
Fletch said:
I agree with that.
I agree he could be less childish and more respectful, but I don't think that means he is unstable.
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Well, on that we'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
lurchadams said:
Here you go:
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I will grant you that there may indeed be a liberal out there somewhere who isn't hateful and childish over the election of Trump.
 
Fletch said:
Right. Because you wouldn't protest at all if people questioned your intelligence and mental stability.
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I don't know Winston all that well, but I'm certain he's never boasted about grabbing women's ******s. I know almost certainly he doesn't send out 100"s of illiterate twits about petty bull****.....


So your comparison is as idiotic as Trumps posts. And he does protest too much...everything from what MSNBC is saying at that moment, to football players, to about a thousand areas the president of the United States should have no time for.

Perhaps if he stopped exploding over every little slight and spent some time actually trying to comprehend the complexity of the issues, he would have cause to blow up seventeen times a day
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
The Ronald Reagan playbook? Is he saying that Ronald Reagan used to accuse his opponents of senility?

A football coach's playbook is the set of plays and strategies that a coach uses to win a game. If you say the Karl Rove playbook, you mean the tactics that Karl Rove used. It makes no sense to say Ronald Reagan's playbook in this context.

Trump is not doing a good job refuting the claims that he's an idiot.
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....."actually, throughout my life my two greatest assets have been my mental stability and being, like, really smart"

"...I went from VERY successful businessman to top T.V. star."

If there has been a twit from the twit that showed exactly how limited is his intellect, this is it. The second line is not worthy of comment other than since when are TV stars "smart"? Every day I see them on the front covers of glossy magazine, either caught cheating on their partners, were arrested for drugs and/or public drunkenness...

but that's what Donald sees as his crowning achievement in life..."T.V. Star."
 
Verax said:
It's not even about criticism or partisan politics anymore. He has the mentality of a little kid and should not be in charge of the country. Though I do assume the adults surrounding him have created a net to stop him from doing anything dangerous other than tweeting.
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So far.
 
Fletch said:
That makes no sense. He was competent enough to win the nomination then defeat the great Hillary in the general. You cant do that if you are incompetent.
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Hillary defeated herself. If the idiot had even bothered to campaign in a few states that went Obama, she'd have easily won. She lost them by a thin margin because she just assumed they'd go for her (yet another problem; her self-image doesn't match her public image). She just arrogantly assume it was in the bag from the moment of Trump's nomination, and with just about any other D candidate it would have been.

Of course, there were many other problems.

Bernie supporters who said "**** you" with their vote.

The fact that she was a walking poll. Whatever the polls said 1-2 weeks ago, she says in some new campaign speech.

Meanwhile, Trump could capitalize on the vitriol the far right has been feeding the GOP base since right around 2007, when a certain someone threw his hat in the ring.



And more....

She did win that popular vote by 3 million.
 
Fletch said:
How was it dumb? Trump is the most conservative president of my lifetime. I approve of every policy he has enacted. Yes, he childish antics are annoying, but I don't regret voting for him and will vote for him again in 2020.
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At least with that post you end the argument. You are not qualified to make an unbiased assessment of either Trump's intelligence or mental fitness for the job.

From where I sit, Trump appears to suffer from arrested development, and emotionally exhibits everything a president should not be.
Hi ego is so easily bruised, he resorts to staging a twit war with the mother of a slain soldier only because HIS pride had been hurt. His span of attention is a serious, serious problem now being discussed by former aides, while current aides all agree they are dealing with a "child".

I never said much good about Obama, and even less about Hillary - frankly I believe your whole system drives the cream to the bottom. However I never doubted Obama's ability to take the flak and sail a steady course. He lost my support with ONE lie, "you can keep your plan..."
While Trump seems incapable of telling the truth.

A president needs to be able to absorb all the **** coming at him, and like the captain of a ship remain solidly unemotional while everyone around him thinks the ship is sinking. He needs to be a diplomat, and a calming influence on what's happening around him.

He must have the ability to empathize with the suffering or hardship of the electorate, have compassion, and exhibit that calm and control especially while being besieged by political opponents.

Trump has none of those qualities...he is in fact the exact opposite and worse, incorrigible.

Trump has no filter, he is as likely to egg on physical violence at one of his rallies, as he is to mock a reporter, or, for entertainment purposes, make fun of other world leaders.
 
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