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A Trump biographer reviews 'Fire and Fury' - CNN

haymarket said:
The thing wrong with your theory is that you are pretending he wants to get away with something relatively small so he will risk huge and major damage to his reputation to do it. Sorry - that is beyond absurd.
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You seem to be operating under the assumption that Trump cares about his reputation in the eyes of the media. Do you think his supporters care about this book? Who's opinion do you think Trump values? His supporters or the MSM's? Here's a hint: he's been constantly denigrating one and not the other.
 
haymarket said:
The LIES were told by Trump White House people - all Wolff did was was report on them.
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That may be true.

The National Enquirer does the same.
 
HowardBThiname said:
It's a little more than that -- he reported on them knowing they were lies. In other words, he helped spread those lies.

What Wolff did is no different from what some of the more unscrupulous reporters did when Obama took office -- kept repeating the lies that he was not an American. They knew better, but it served their dishonest purposes.

Wolff is in that crowd.
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I don't know why that story ever got any traction.

It didn't matter where Obama was born as his mother was American thereby making her son American as well.
 
haymarket said:
That would greatly depend on what role they were in and what their job was. If they were a political reporter and several people told them different versions of the same event and I wanted to expose how they all lived in an environment of falsehood and deception - then YES , I would encourage them to report just what was told to them under the guise of truth and to explain that some of what I was reporting was at odds with other things I was reporting because this is what was told to me.
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I taught my children not to repeat lies or tell lies in the first place. I taught them to challenge those who told lies and to make sure they never added to the deception caused by a lie.

I understand asking a child to repeat a lie to his parents, or teacher, if need be to expose the one who lied so he/she can be punished, but that's not really what Wolff did, is it? He repeated the lies in a fashion that allows readers to believe they might be true and then he only qualifies those lies by saying that some of them were lies.

That's not integrity -- that's just the spreading of lies.

But, he'll make bank on it, I'm sure.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if Trump is getting a share of the profits from the book. If so, it would make sense for him to make a big stink about it, so as to increase interest and ultimately sell more books.
 
beancounter said:
It wouldn't surprise me if Trump is getting a share of the profits from the book. If so, it would make sense for him to make a big stink about it, so as to increase interest and ultimately sell more books.
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Why would that not surprise you?
 
JacksinPA said:
Trump biographer: Much of what Michael Wolff says about Trump rings true (Opinion) - CNN

(CNN)In "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House," author Michael Wolff offers a caricature of the President as "an idiot surrounded by clowns," as one unnamed source puts it. It's an incomplete and unsatisfying sketch. But consider that his subject, Donald Trump, has described himself as a character in a comic book and Wolff's work can be regarded as truer than the President would have us believe.

Wolff is at his more accurate, and incisive, when he observes that "many of the accounts" of events offered by the President's team, "in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue." He then argues for our indulgence as he tries to describe reality.

Why Trump can't stop 'Fire and Fury'

The President's own lies and distortions, which are key features of his leadership style, make it impossible for anyone to rely on him and his aides in a normal way.
As a private citizen, Trump developed this squid-ink method so that he could sell himself like a human product. In falsely claiming that various starlets pursued him for dates, or the British royals were eying Trump real estate, he played a game with reality.

In a super-salesman, this habit was amusing. In a president, it is both frightening and dangerous. But while the distortion obscures Trump, it doesn't make him invisible and Wolff has spotted the outlines of his target. Among the broad strokes that seem accurate to me, based on my experience as a biographer of Trump and other sources:
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This analysis speaks for itself. I like the 'squid-ink' reference.
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Lol ! You know what they say about fools and their money. You people were absolutely scammed, you realize that, dont you ?
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Plus Bannon got hurt from the book by Trump loyalists, he has created a schism within the alt-right. I think part of the outrage from the WH is manufactured, I don't think they knew all that Wolff was doing, but they knew he was there writing a book. Or maybe they did know all along that this book would be this crazy, and are using it to their advantage. A possible way out of the mess they are in. I expect and hope more people will talk about Trump resigning due to mental instability over the next few weeks. (Yes, I'm sad it takes that long) I still expect Trump to be gone from the WH Q1 of 2018. I've said this from the beginning.

Either way, it doesn't make sense for Wolff to make stuff up. Bannon sure, but not Wolff.
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IMHO, people who think Trump will resign demonstrate a far greater degree of insanity than Trump ever has.

Outside of the insane who claim that Trump is insane, what outcomes of his first year indicate insanity to you?

The SCOTUS Justice installed?

More Federal Judges installed in the first year than any other President?

The booming economy?

The astronomical rise of the Stock Markets?

The coalition of 50 Arab States opposing Fundamentalist Islamic Terror?

The increase in the contributions from NATO Member states?

The Tax Reform package passed?

The Obamacare Mandate that was removed from law?

The elimination of 22 old regulations for every new regulation implemented?

In the meantime, his opponents are raving about Russian collusion that never occurred, insanity that doesn't exist and events based in dreams, not reality. When will they accept that Hillary actually lost?

Trump's outcomes are a better domestic and world economy, increased wealth for the American people and constantly increasing numbers of jobs for Americans.

His opposition wants us to resist this program.

Who's crazy in this?
 
Interesting, usually when any story was cited from Breitbart the left here roundly panned it as typical fake news. Now they are defending the Chairman of the Board of Breitbart for producing a book he himself admits is full of hearsay and lies.
Many of the accounts of what has happened in the Trump White House are in conflict with one another; many, in Trumpian fashion, are baldly untrue. These conflicts, and that looseness with the truth, if not with reality itself, are an elemental thread of the book.
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In other words, I did what ever it took to make a profit and appear relevant.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Uh, Fire and Fury. The topic of this conversation. :roll: I dare you to name a more popular political book to come out in the last 30 years.
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Popular in what way?

Yes a few people are talking about it on message boards.

How many hard copies have been sold? I don't think any as it hasn't been released as of yet.

How do you measure popularity if it isn't in sales?
 
beancounter said:
Because it's an opportunity to make money.
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Yes I am sure the few dollars Trump could make on this book would be worth all of the aggravation.
 
reinoe said:
You seem to be operating under the assumption that Trump cares about his reputation in the eyes of the media. Do you think his supporters care about this book? Who's opinion do you think Trump values? His supporters or the MSM's? Here's a hint: he's been constantly denigrating one and not the other.
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He must because he tried to stop publication of the book. His own actions prove your rationalizations absurd,
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Uh, Fire and Fury. The topic of this conversation. :roll: I dare you to name a more popular political book to come out in the last 30 years.
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You said it was the most popular political book "of all time". You're (once again) letting your hard-on for anything Trump cloud your thinking. You're completely and totally obsessed with him. You cannot stop thinking about him. You dream about him, don't you?
 
Mason66 said:
Popular in what way?

Yes a few people are talking about it on message boards.

How many hard copies have been sold? I don't think any as it hasn't been released as of yet.

How do you measure popularity if it isn't in sales?
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It's number one on amazon. Been sold out in all physical book stores that were scheduled to cover it. It's trending on social media worldwide. It was released early. Every single cable news talking head and radio personality is talking about it. This is the first political book that I've seen people admit to reading on DP. I'm not sure how you measure success but... I rest my case.
 
Hatuey said:
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Purchased for the new Kindle. Just want to trigger a few.
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Oh, no one on the right is triggered over this book.I think its all very entertaining

You and everyone else that purchased that book are the unwitting victims of oentertainin, and thats funny.
 
Josie said:
You said it was the most popular political book "of all time". You're (once again) letting your hard-on for anything Trump cloud your thinking. You're completely and totally obsessed with him. You cannot stop thinking about him. You dream about him, don't you?
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Then name a more popular political book to come out in the past 30 years. I'm betting you won't.
 
HowardBThiname said:
I taught my children not to repeat lies or tell lies in the first place. I taught them to challenge those who told lies and to make sure they never added to the deception caused by a lie.

I understand asking a child to repeat a lie to his parents, or teacher, if need be to expose the one who lied so he/she can be punished, but that's not really what Wolff did, is it? He repeated the lies in a fashion that allows readers to believe they might be true and then he only qualifies those lies by saying that some of them were lies.

That's not integrity -- that's just the spreading of lies.

But, he'll make bank on it, I'm sure.
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You are forgetting his aim which was to show the White House under Trump as it exists. And it exists as a palace of lies and deceptions which start at the top.
 
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