Steve Bannon Aim?

Winchester said:

Of course he will, it will entertaining.

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yes I look forward to your ilk posting his comments as if they are gospel for the next few months.

ReverendHellh0und said:

"wisdom" hell you don't even like logic.

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I love wisdom.

I often take exception to the self serving nonsense that some people mistakenly call "logic" that is really only a substitute for their inability to present verifiable evidence to support their claims or opinions.

Rexedgar said:

What do you think the source of Bannon’s clout is and what is Bannon’s end game? Must be more to it than the financial backing of Robert Mercer and family....

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I have heard a lot of analysis on why Trump does certain things, or why Bannon does certain things, with the premise that these people are highly intelligent, highly analytical types involved in some kind of 4-dimensional chess, and they are seeing 5 moves ahead, and when they do things that are mysterious and don't make any sense, we just have to try to analyze a little deeper and see the underlying motivations and possible long term strategies.

Nonsense. They are all a bunch of kids and bullies on the schoolyard who just react viscerally to what just happened. It has become clear to me though there is no deeper end game. There is no profound strategy. You might as well try to figure out the strategies of a bunch of 3rd graders taunting each other on the school yard during recess. Except these guys have a functioning nuclear button they can push.

bearpoker said:

I think Bannon is seeking to reshape American culture in line with his own values. He thought for a while that Trump would be a good vehicle for that, but it looks like he's now having doubts.

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Civil war within a civil war in the GOP. First it was Bannon and Trump against the "establishment" GOP. Now they have turned on each other. Precious.

ReverendHellh0und said:

yes I look forward to your ilk posting his comments as if they are gospel for the next few months.

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ilk, really? :lol:

ataraxia said:

Civil war within a civil war in the GOP. First it was Bannon and Trump against the "establishment" GOP. Now they have turned on each other. Precious.

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Bannon will sell lots of books to the left, hungry for anything to explain their absolute and utter destruction at the ballot box.

The real war is inside the DNC who is drifting aimlessly towards another defeat of race baiting and full blown lies and deception...

They have no one who is a good candidate for any elected office. Just Trump hate, and no message is all they have.

Rexedgar said:

What do you think the source of Bannon’s clout is and what is Bannon’s end game? Must be more to it than the financial backing of Robert Mercer and family....

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He's a classic narcissist nutjob. He has an image of himself as a maverick, the person who sees the "deeper truth" that all the smarties and elites ignore or try to hide. His view of himself does not comport with his firing from the Trump Admin or his failure in Alabama, and so now he is searching for an external enemy to blame all his failures on or to distract people, and that enemy now is Trump.

Trump and Bannon are two peas in a pod. Trump is a lot more charismatic than Bannon, but Bannon is a lot smarter than Trump. Neither of them care about their base, they only care about appearing powerful and insightful and successful. Hopefully they finally expose each other to their base for the scum that they are.

Blkdirt Farmer said:

Bannon will sell lots of books to the left, hungry for anything to explain their absolute and utter destruction at the ballot box.

The real war is inside the DNC who is drifting aimlessly towards another defeat of race baiting and full blown lies and deception...

They have no one who is a good candidate for any elected office. Just Trump hate, and no message is all they have.

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Uh...yeah, OK. Bannon accuses Trump's son and son-in-law of treason, and Trump says the guy has gone insane since he fired him. And the takeaway message from all this is that the DNC has no one who is a good candidate. OK. Whatever makes you feel better.

ataraxia said:

Uh...yeah, OK. Bannon accuses Trump's son and son-in-law of treason, and Trump says the guy has gone insane since he fired him. And the takeaway message from all this is that the DNC has no one who is a good candidate. OK. Whatever makes you feel better.

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The charges Bannon makes will be eventually proven untrue. He is trying to sell books, and has that motive along with narcissist tendencies...

Bannon signed a none disclosure agreement when he left the White House that has huge teeth in it, for just this occasion. The cease and desist order will be noticed for sure...

Bannon loses this one no matter how you look at it, he just does not know it, or doesn't care. I think it may well be the latter. His relevance is was really destroyed in the total support he gave to Roy Moore in Alabama. It will be hard to recover after that mistake.

And yes if there is a war with in the parties, it certainly is the left at this point who is doing just that.

Steve Bannon is well known to be an enthusiastic supporter of the pseudo-scientific, pseudo-hisorigraphic Strauss-Howe generational theory. If Bannon believes that the US is in the latest iteration of the "Fourth Turning" in American history he may be interested in bring about dramatic societal change through disruptive collapse of the American political status-quo. By backing Trump he lobbed a Molotov-cocktail into the US political establishment. But Trump may have unraveled Bannon's plans when the now-elected President Trump reversed on Bannon and allied with powerful corporate and military interests to more deeply entrench the political-economic oligarchy, while still talking the talk of incendiary change and social revolution. If Bannon can help trigger the downfall of President Trump and make it seem like a deep-establishment putsch to remove an unorthodox but nonetheless legitimately elected sitting president then this might catalyse rebellion and social upheaval in America, leading to cascading and radical political change. From the ashes of such upheaval and precipitous change Bannon may see an opportunity to create "Bio-Dome America" as a new Jerusalem for his peculiar take on social engineering and historical determinism.

This mental process may even be unfolding in Bannon's mind somewhat unconsciously, as instinct and conviction could be driving him more than reason. Reason could shape his chess moves but the reason he wants to play the game could be irrational. This is all just conjecture and speculation on my part of course, offered without a shred of evidence on my behalf, but my gut feeling is that this Shiva-like destroyer-messiah duality may be lurking behind his actions.

As to support for Bannon's agenda, whatever it is, I don't know.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

ReverendHellh0und said:

yes I look forward to your ilk posting his comments as if they are gospel for the next few months.

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Yes, and I am sure we can look forward to you and your ilk continuing to post trump tweets as if they are actually the gospel truth as you have been for that last year. Not to worry, your messiah will be pardoned by Pence, or whomever is installed, after trump is removed, see, it's all good.

Casper said:

Yes, and I am sure we can look forward to you and your ilk continuing to post trump tweets as if they are actually the gospel truth as you have been for that last year. Not to worry, your messiah will be pardoned by Pence, or whomever is installed, after trump is removed, see, it's all good.

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I don't think trump is a messiah, I disagree with much of his positions, didn't and would not vote for him, and I think his tweets are entertaining at best. It's you dependent class sore loser true believers who are suckers to the MSM and are so gullible to believe them when they are caught nearly daily lying to you.


If you all kept the high road, you would be fighting from a position of the high ground, but in reality you are right in the mud with trump and he's wiping the floor with you. It's funny to watch.

Rexedgar said:

What do you think the source of Bannon’s clout is and what is Bannon’s end game? Must be more to it than the financial backing of Robert Mercer and family....

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I didn't think he had any clout except for what he might have to tell as an 'insider'.

I don't know if he's telling the truth, since it's so different then what he said previously. I think he is mega pissed off at being fired because he saw the presidency going one way, and it didn't end up that way.

I mean in the beginning, he was all hung ho, and some of the posters here on this forum even, were scared Trump would listen to him. His agenda was off the wall. I think they (don't know who) talked Trump into getting rid of him because of his extremist views.

Now he has lost any chance of advancing his agenda, and payback is a bitch. What he really knows vs what he thinks he knows it to be determined.

ReverendHellh0und said:

It's you dependent class sore loser true believers who are suckers to the MSM and are so gullible to believe them when they are caught nearly daily lying to you.

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Journalism is not perfect. When they make mistakes they retract. A press that is critical of government is what makes democracy possible. On the other side you have FOX News acting as some kind of authoritarian government news service. It's totally uncritical and dishonest.

Do you admit that this administration has been historically dishonest? It's the administration that's been lying on nearly a daily basis.

ReverendHellh0und said:

I don't think trump is a messiah, I disagree with much of his positions, didn't and would not vote for him, and I think his tweets are entertaining at best. It's you dependent class sore loser true believers who are suckers to the MSM and are so gullible to believe them when they are caught nearly daily lying to you.


If you all kept the high road, you would be fighting from a position of the high ground, but in reality you are right in the mud with trump and he's wiping the floor with you. It's funny to watch.

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So sorry to disappoint but I am no where near the "dependent class", probably far better off than you. I did not support Hillary so hence I did not lose, America lost because both Parties presented unfit candidates, one or the other was bound to win. I rarely watch MSM but I am sure you do not want to believe anyone that believes trump to be unfit must fit into your predetermined nonsense.

Did not know I was even on the donalds radar, maybe that is because he does not know where the high ground is, since you are standing right next to him maybe you can point out to him where it is, if you even know. When he gets here I will introduce him to my friend Mueller.

calamity said:

Bannon is smart--he knows which way the wind blows. Trump is not. That's pretty obvious.

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Trump was smart enough to get elected. His weathervane showed him which way the wind was blowing. But, he's such a blowhard himself, his own words and just as bombastic actions will be his undoing. Bannon sees that.