• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Interresting take on Trump by Nick Searcy using a wrestling analogy

PirateMk1

PirateMk1

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 28, 2012
Messages
21,004
Reaction score
10,104
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Amazingly enough I think works quite well. What do you guys think?

Here's a couple of excerpts and the audio.

The arrival of Trump in politics, continued Searcy, was like the arrival of Hulk Hogan in the wrestling world.
“[Hogan] would hit the heel back with [objects],” said Searcy — and the audience loved Hogan because “they’d been waiting for this for years.” They finally had a wrestler to root for who was willing to employ the same tactics used against him.
Hogan kicked off the “attitude era” in wrestling, in which matches were less predictable and the personalities of the stars were bigger than ever.
Click to expand...

The arrival of Trump, like Hogan, had people excited, said Searcy, because he was “a throwback to the attitude era” and was willing to fight back and fight back hard.
“He leads with the chair,” said Searcy of Trump. “He starts clocking people before the bell even rings.”
Click to expand...

 
If the comparison means decades from now we have to endure a Trump Sex Tape, I'll take a pass on the comparison if you don't mind.

The Hogan tape was scarring enough.
 
Jetboogieman said:
If the comparison means decades from now we have to endure a Trump Sex Tape, I'll take a pass on the comparison if you don't mind.

The Hogan tape was scarring enough.
Click to expand...

Really you got to go there? Man I would like to keep that sick **** out my head thank you very much. What has been seen cannot be unseen. What has been heard cannot be unheard. A pox on you. :blink:
 
PirateMk1 said:
Amazingly enough I think works quite well. What do you guys think?

Here's a couple of excerpts and the audio.





Click to expand...


Seems like Hogan was the beginning of the steroid era which I guess continues today. I watched when I was young with my grandpa. Andre the Giant and George the Animal Steel were my favorite. It was fun and entertaining. Not taken so seriously. Comparing trump to a fake wrestler I guess is accurate. A pretend bully.
 
Hari Seldon said:
Seems like Hogan was the beginning of the steroid era which I guess continues today. I watched when I was young with my grandpa. Andre the Giant and George the Animal Steel were my favorite. It was fun and entertaining. Not taken so seriously. Comparing trump to a fake wrestler I guess is accurate. A pretend bully.
Click to expand...

Do yourself a favor and listen Nick explain the analogy. It goes a quite bit deeper than you think.
 
Are you sure he didn't mean Stone Cold Steve Austin? Hogan didn't kick off the Attitude Era.
 
MrPeanut said:
Are you sure he didn't mean Stone Cold Steve Austin? Hogan didn't kick off the Attitude Era.
Click to expand...

I don't know much about wrestling so that inquiry would best be suited to Mr. Searcy. However I think his point is still valid.
 
Meh... the way it's looking I'm thinking Trump is more like Nikolai Volkoff.

Nikolai_Volkoff.webp
 
Trump is a counter-puncher. The elites thought they could take that cheap jabs at him and were surprised when he didn't take that crap lying down.

Trump didn't attack McCain out of the blue for no reason. McCain made denigrating comments about trumps early supporters.

Lindsey Graham hit Trump below the belt by calling trump a jackass. Trump counterpunched graham so hard she dropped out of the race.
 
Sounds more like Jerry Springer.....

springer-jdl-klan-brawl-2.gif


giphy.gif
 
Hari Seldon said:
Seems like Hogan was the beginning of the steroid era which I guess continues today. I watched when I was young with my grandpa. Andre the Giant and George the Animal Steel were my favorite. It was fun and entertaining. Not taken so seriously. Comparing trump to a fake wrestler I guess is accurate. A pretend bully.
Click to expand...

George the Animal Steel and Chief Jay Strongbow and his sleeper hold! Ahh...memories :)
 
Jetboogieman said:
If the comparison means decades from now we have to endure a Trump Sex Tape, I'll take a pass on the comparison if you don't mind.

The Hogan tape was scarring enough.
Click to expand...

Please, just the thought of Trump having sex is enough to make me want to hurl my Cheerios. Do you reckon Melania has the same thought?:2razz:
 
PirateMk1 said:
Do yourself a favor and listen Nick explain the analogy. It goes a quite bit deeper than you think.
Click to expand...
I'm good, thanks. Emperor tweeto is a complete asshole and many of those that voted for him will regret it.

Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk
 
The Grand Wizard and Lou Albano with rubberbands in his beard.

Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk
 
PirateMk1 said:
Amazingly enough I think works quite well. What do you guys think?
Click to expand...

If you think it works well, I'm guessing you didn't watch wrestling? Not meaning as an insult, just that the analogy doesn't really make sense from a wrestling perspective.

Hogan was popular primarily with children, not adults, and it was his cartoonish, larger than life persona that did it. Hulk Hogan, when he was cheered and arriving on the scene, was in no way a guy that "led with the chair" and "clocking people before the bell even rings".

What's more, Hulk Hogan in no way, shape, or form kicked off the "attitude era"; quite the contrary, he was basically the headline and pinnacle performer of the "Golden Age" or "Rock 'n' Wrestling Era" that was the last great boom period for Wrestling BEFORE the attitude era's boom.

As someone who's been a fan of wrestling over the years and knows it's history, this whole thing is mindnumbingly bad. The saddest thing is, his argument would actually semi-make sense if he changed "Hulk Hogan" to "Steve Austin", a man actually credited as the face and arguably starter of the attitude era. But even then, Austin's fandom wasn't because he'd use the same tactics as used against him; it was because he epitomized the typical "every man" fighting back against the boss who's mistreating him.
 
Samhain said:
They don't make em like they used to. Big time wrestling in the 80s was the bomb.
Click to expand...

I grew up in Georgia where they had their own smaller circuit. I was a huge fan of this masked tag team whose names were... and I kid you not ... Wrestler #1 and Wrestler #2. And everyone loved wrestler #2 the most.
 
holbritter said:
George the Animal Steel and Chief Jay Strongbow and his sleeper hold! Ahh...memories :)
Click to expand...

Dusty Roads' "atomic elbow" because he was just too fat and old to get off the ground for a real move.
 
Zyphlin said:
If you think it works well, I'm guessing you didn't watch wrestling? Not meaning as an insult, just that the analogy doesn't really make sense from a wrestling perspective.

Hogan was popular primarily with children, not adults, and it was his cartoonish, larger than life persona that did it. Hulk Hogan, when he was cheered and arriving on the scene, was in no way a guy that "led with the chair" and "clocking people before the bell even rings".

What's more, Hulk Hogan in no way, shape, or form kicked off the "attitude era"; quite the contrary, he was basically the headline and pinnacle performer of the "Golden Age" or "Rock 'n' Wrestling Era" that was the last great boom period for Wrestling BEFORE the attitude era's boom.

As someone who's been a fan of wrestling over the years and knows it's history, this whole thing is mindnumbingly bad. The saddest thing is, his argument would actually semi-make sense if he changed "Hulk Hogan" to "Steve Austin", a man actually credited as the face and arguably starter of the attitude era. But even then, Austin's fandom wasn't because he'd use the same tactics as used against him; it was because he epitomized the typical "every man" fighting back against the boss who's mistreating him.
Click to expand...

Not to mention Hogan was with WCW when the Attitude Era started in WWF.
 
Zyphlin said:
If you think it works well, I'm guessing you didn't watch wrestling? Not meaning as an insult, just that the analogy doesn't really make sense from a wrestling perspective.

Hogan was popular primarily with children, not adults, and it was his cartoonish, larger than life persona that did it. Hulk Hogan, when he was cheered and arriving on the scene, was in no way a guy that "led with the chair" and "clocking people before the bell even rings".

What's more, Hulk Hogan in no way, shape, or form kicked off the "attitude era"; quite the contrary, he was basically the headline and pinnacle performer of the "Golden Age" or "Rock 'n' Wrestling Era" that was the last great boom period for Wrestling BEFORE the attitude era's boom.

As someone who's been a fan of wrestling over the years and knows it's history, this whole thing is mindnumbingly bad. The saddest thing is, his argument would actually semi-make sense if he changed "Hulk Hogan" to "Steve Austin", a man actually credited as the face and arguably starter of the attitude era. But even then, Austin's fandom wasn't because he'd use the same tactics as used against him; it was because he epitomized the typical "every man" fighting back against the boss who's mistreating him.
Click to expand...

He could be meaning Hogan's time with WCW and the NWO as Hollywood Hulk Hogan. That switch was before if I recall correctly Austin becoming a star at WWE.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
He could be meaning Hogan's time with WCW and the NWO as Hollywood Hulk Hogan. That switch was before if I recall correctly Austin becoming a star at WWE.
Click to expand...

The author almost certainly is referring to that, the Hollywood Hogan character(gimmick). It fails on multiple levels though as a comparison he wants to make. Hollywood Hogan was a heel(bad guy) character. The "tweener" gimmick, a face who used heel tactics, was hardly original at that time, Hogan's popularity had already peaked at that time, and that was not what made the character interesting or drew the reaction.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom