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Justice Dept: Release of FBI agents’ texts was not authorized

Moderate Right said:
How is it remotely possible for the left to claim that there is proof?
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How is it remotely possible for the right to claim there isn't any proof? I don't know either way, you don't know either way, nobody who isn't directly involved in the investigation knows either way. Can we at least agree on that?
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh please. The left cheers every single anti-Trump leak there is (from Obama's appointees and those appointee's appointees) and congratulates those leakers then, all of a sudden, when information leaks out that is pro-Trump they are against leaks.
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Oh please. The right gets up in arms every single anti-trump leak there is and wants to find and prosecute those leakers, then all of a sudden, when information leaks out that is pro-trump, they cheer.

Fun, isn't it?
 
Johnson said:
Oh please. The right gets up in arms every single anti-trump leak there is and wants to find and prosecute those leakers, then all of a sudden, when information leaks out that is pro-trump, they cheer.

Fun, isn't it?
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The leaking left started it. That's why turnabout is fair play.
 
Johnson said:
So other leakers leaking FBI information are sticking it to the leakers who leaked information from the white house? That doesn't really track. Plus, I thought government leakers were terrible, un-american criminals? Or is that only when they leak stuff you personally don't want leaked?
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Political operatives masquerading as impartial agents of justice are corrupted and corrosive elements in our government.

They are a stain on the fabric of our nation's image and reality.

This is as good an argument as any other for dismantling the power of the Federal Government.
 
Johnson said:
That's right, sometimes I forget, everything is the way Apdst says it is, facts be damned, and it's up to everyone else to prove otherwise.


Oh wait, that's literally not how anything works. You claim the insurance policy statement is directly associated with these leaks, ergo it's on you to prove it. I know that's difficult to do with a one liner, but do your best.
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I've added emphasis for your convenience.

Please note that this implicates Strzok, Lisa Page and Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe in one sentence. Separate sentences in prison should be assigned to each.

How Mueller's path was muddied in two weeks - CNNPolitics

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In one instance, highlighted in a tweet by Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, Page references a phone so that she and Strzok could "talk about Hillary because it can't be traced"

-- raising questions about whether any messages on additional devices exist.

In another text sent in August 2016, after the Clinton investigation closed, Strzok says, without explanation:

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office" -- an apparent reference to Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe -- "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk.

It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40 . . . ."

Page does not appear to have responded, according to records reviewed by CNN.
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roughdraft274 said:
Not a big surprise. When you have terrible and immoral and dishonest leaders in charge the people beneath them will start acting similarly. Trump doesn't care about truth or honesty, so the people below him feel as though they can act accordingly, thus we get leaks.
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Trump is cleaning house.

This particular house is filled with a stench and disgusting crap.

I think it's interesting that with all of the great stuff happening in the country right now, the weak minded still can't see it.
 
Johnson said:
If Mueller is obligated to keep the results of his investigation under wraps until his investigation is concluded, how is it even remotely logical, at this point in his investigation, to claim that there's no proof of wrongdoing on the part of the parties being investigated?
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Because the leaks in this investigation are bigger and more numerous than the leaks in the Titanic.

Muldoon and the Gang That Won't Shoot Straight is both an embarrassment and an example our crippled system of "Justice".
 
code1211 said:
I've added emphasis for your convenience.

Please note that this implicates Strzok, Lisa Page and Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe in one sentence. Separate sentences in prison should be assigned to each.

How Mueller's path was muddied in two weeks - CNNPolitics

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In one instance, highlighted in a tweet by Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, Page references a phone so that she and Strzok could "talk about Hillary because it can't be traced"

-- raising questions about whether any messages on additional devices exist.

In another text sent in August 2016, after the Clinton investigation closed, Strzok says, without explanation:

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office" -- an apparent reference to Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe -- "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk.

It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40 . . . ."

Page does not appear to have responded, according to records reviewed by CNN.
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I understand what he is saying in the message.
The truth of this situation will come eventually even if Trump tries to bury and undermine it as best he can.
 
code1211 said:
I've added emphasis for your convenience.

Please note that this implicates Strzok, Lisa Page and Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe in one sentence. Separate sentences in prison should be assigned to each.

How Mueller's path was muddied in two weeks - CNNPolitics

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In one instance, highlighted in a tweet by Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, Page references a phone so that she and Strzok could "talk about Hillary because it can't be traced"

-- raising questions about whether any messages on additional devices exist.

In another text sent in August 2016, after the Clinton investigation closed, Strzok says, without explanation:

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office" -- an apparent reference to Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe -- "that there's no way he gets elected -- but I'm afraid we can't take that risk.

It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40 . . . ."

Page does not appear to have responded, according to records reviewed by CNN.
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I'm familiar with the quote. I didn't ask for someone to just relay it to me again.

Edit - my initial post that you responded to was me trying to get another member to ONE TIME actually defend their own statements instead of bombing out short declarative statements without any attempt or effort at proving or defending them.
 
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code1211 said:
Trump is cleaning house.

This particular house is filled with a stench and disgusting crap.

I think it's interesting that with all of the great stuff happening in the country right now, the weak minded still can't see it.
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Trump has no legs to stand on to say he's "cleaning house" when the people he brings in have done nothing but track mud onto all the carpets. I think it's interesting that the weak minded can't see that.
 
code1211 said:
Political operatives masquerading as impartial agents of justice are corrupted and corrosive elements in our government.

They are a stain on the fabric of our nation's image and reality.

This is as good an argument as any other for dismantling the power of the Federal Government.
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DP has been having this argument for quite some time now. Nobody has been able to prove, aside from hysteria, that the investigators are unable to perform their duties with professionalism that overrides their political views.
 
KerouacJack said:
I understand what he is saying in the message.
The truth of this situation will come eventually even if Trump tries to bury and undermine it as best he can.
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There is no evidence that Trump entered into any kind of collusion.

There is no evidence that Trump has tried to impede in any way the actions of the Special Prosecutor.

There is, on the other hand, ample evidence that the Special Prosecutor hired folks with unmeasurable bias to work against Trump, that the "evidence" he relies on is faked and that the entire charade is a Witch Hunt.

Just look at Washington. Suddenly the Republicans are rallying behind Trump. DC a political town. The wind has changed and the political elites have figured it out.

Take a lesson.
 
Johnson said:
I'm familiar with the quote. I didn't ask for someone to just relay it to me again.

Edit - my initial post that you responded to was me trying to get another member to ONE TIME actually defend their own statements instead of bombing out short declarative statements without any attempt or effort at proving or defending them.
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Sorry to have interrupted.

I think it's interesting that this one text implicates to many and that no action rose out of it at the time except to promote this political hack to greater responsibility.
 
Johnson said:
Trump has no legs to stand on to say he's "cleaning house" when the people he brings in have done nothing but track mud onto all the carpets. I think it's interesting that the weak minded can't see that.
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Examples? Links?
 
Johnson said:
DP has been having this argument for quite some time now. Nobody has been able to prove, aside from hysteria, that the investigators are unable to perform their duties with professionalism that overrides their political views.
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They why are they reassigned?
 
Johnson said:
DP has been having this argument for quite some time now. Nobody has been able to prove, aside from hysteria, that the investigators are unable to perform their duties with professionalism that overrides their political views.
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Peter Strzok.

Apparently, you're wrong.
 
bubbabgone said:
They why are they reassigned?
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Anyone who was reassigned is no longer a part of the investigation. If anything, doesn't the fact that the investigation reassigned anyone who acted improperly make the investigation MORE legitimate?
 
Johnson said:
Anyone who was reassigned is no longer a part of the investigation. If anything, doesn't the fact that the investigation reassigned anyone who acted improperly make the investigation MORE legitimate?
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I was replying to your post ..."Nobody has been able to prove, aside from hysteria, that the investigators are unable to perform their duties with professionalism that overrides their political views."
Again: Why were reassignments necessary?
 
bubbabgone said:
I was replying to your post ..."Nobody has been able to prove, aside from hysteria, that the investigators are unable to perform their duties with professionalism that overrides their political views."
Again: Why were reassignments necessary?
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Ok, let me rephrase? The *current* investigators. I don't know what it is anyone would expect to happen other than what did happen. They did some things they shouldn't have, they got booted off the investigation. So based on the fact that Mueller has shown that he won't tolerate that sort of nonsense, doesn't it make the remaining investigation more legitimate?
 
bubbabgone said:
I was replying to your post ..."Nobody has been able to prove, aside from hysteria, that the investigators are unable to perform their duties with professionalism that overrides their political views."
Again: Why were reassignments necessary?
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Plus, them being reassigned doesn't actually prove that they couldn't put aside their beliefs and act professionally, does it?
 
code1211 said:
There is, on the other hand, ample evidence that the Special Prosecutor hired folks with unmeasurable bias to work against Trump, that the "evidence" he relies on is faked and that the entire charade is a Witch Hunt.

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Your measuring their bias just fine on your own....
This is all your own conjecture fed to you by political propagandists, you have no evidence to back this claim at all.
You don't know what evidence is.
 
KerouacJack said:
Your measuring their bias just fine on your own....
This is all your own conjecture fed to you by political propagandists, you have no evidence to back this claim at all.
You don't know what evidence is.
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This is something that implicates, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Andres McCabe in one sentence. They all deserve their own sentences in the Federal Pen.

FBI agent's anti-Trump text messages released to Congress - CNNPolitics
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Later in a text from August 15, 2016, Strzok tells Page:

"I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy's office" -- an apparent reference to Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe -- "that there's no way he gets elected --

but I'm afraid we can't take that risk.

It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40 . . . . " Page does not appear to have responded, according to records reviewed by CNN.
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