Former top spy and Clinton supporter http:rethinks: Maybe we shouldn't have attacked a new president

"And so, this stuff starts to build, right? And he must have said to himself, 'What is it with these intelligence guys? Are they political?'"


The answer to that was simple: Yes, they were political. But the astonishing part of the Morell interview is his admission that at the time he did not stop to consider what was happening from Trump's perspective, even as the leaks continued when Trump took office. "He must have thought, 'Who are these guys?'" Morell said. "Are these guys out to get me? Is this a political organization?"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-former-top-spy-rethinks-maybe-weshouldnt-have-attacked-a-new-president/article/2643208

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Democrats: Party first, country second, and with it you get the politicizing of the DoJ, IRS and FBI.

And Democrats wonder if Trump is Hitlerian? ROTFLOL...

Why is it... that everything Democrats touch... they pervert?

zimmer said:

Democrats: Party first, country second, and with it you get the politicizing of the DoJ, IRS and FBI.

And Democrats wonder if Trump is Hitlerian? ROTFLOL...

Why is it... that everything Democrats touch... they pervert?

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The above emboldened is something that not many have really picked up on -- but, it's a "thing."

And, it's a dangerous thing that most are ignoring, or don't even understand at this point. The Democratic party has changed in the past couple of decades, shifted to the far Left and embraced militantism as part of that shift. While decrying fascism, they've developed and celebrated their own fascist tendencies.

They see anyone who disagrees with them as the enemy.

We live in interesting times.

HowardBThiname said:

The above emboldened is something that not many have really picked up on -- but, it's a "thing."

And, it's a dangerous thing that most are ignoring, or don't even understand at this point. The Democratic party has changed in the past couple of decades, shifted to the far Left and embraced militantism as part of that shift. While decrying fascism, they've developed and celebrated their own fascist tendencies.

They see anyone who disagrees with them as the enemy.

We live in interesting times.

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This is funny, because as a kid growing up all my relatives were Democrats.
Conservative Democrats.
Now that term is an oxymoron.

PleasantValley said:

This is funny, because as a kid growing up all my relatives were Democrats.
Conservative Democrats.
Now that term is an oxymoron.

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I was a Registered Democrat, a Blue-Dog Democrat, for over two decades!

Now, After the Abuses of Obama and Crew, I am an Independent who usually votes for GOP candidates.

I don't like allot of things about most GOP Candidates, but I greatly FEAR many things about almost-all Democratic Candidates.

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PleasantValley said:

This is funny, because as a kid growing up all my relatives were Democrats.
Conservative Democrats.
Now that term is an oxymoron.

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I used to be a Democrat. The far Left kind, but with an odd twist... I wasn’t into the class warfare claptrap.

The Blue Dawg Democrats had the ultimate opportunity to illustrate they were ever so slightly fiscal conservatives when it came to the Careless Affordable Care Act (CACA). They illustrated there was no such thing as Blue Dawgs.

The Democrat Party is about one thing... the Democrat Party. It’s how you get Democrats voting to send troops to war, and then stabbing them in the back... both actions for political expediency. They take the most sacred vote and use it as a political tool... and then when troops are in the midst of a major fight... the Democrats crap on their mission. It doesn’t get any lower than that folks.

When there is no room for a dissenting voice from a former VP candidate, when he is run out of the party because he (Joe Lieberman) disagrees with them on one issue, you really have to wonder about their level of open-mindedness and tolerance.

Now with Trump as a candidate, and in office, we see how Democrats have political operatives in the FBI to protect their own. And with all the leaks... Trump is correct to wonder about the perversion of the intel services. He’d be stupid not to.

HowardBThiname said:

The above emboldened is something that not many have really picked up on -- but, it's a "thing."

And, it's a dangerous thing that most are ignoring, or don't even understand at this point. The Democratic party has changed in the past couple of decades, shifted to the far Left and embraced militantism as part of that shift. While decrying fascism, they've developed and celebrated their own fascist tendencies.

They see anyone who disagrees with them as the enemy.

We live in interesting times.

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We, the American People, Need the OWLs!

We need to insure that the completely corrupted, Anti-white Racist, and Far-Left Loon, Democratic Party withers and fades away!

But!

We need at least Two viable political parties!

We NEED the OWLs!

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zimmer said:

Democrats: Party first, country second, and with it you get the politicizing of the DoJ, IRS and FBI.

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Isn’t the point of the article that these weren’t Democrats, they were apolitical individuals who came out against Trump not out of predetermined partisan lines but because they truly felt he would be bad for the country. There are plenty of serious questions about some actions after Trump was elected but that shouldn’t be used to condemn everyone who ever spoke against him during the election.

You’re not in a very strong position to argue against everything being politicised if you’re politicising everything yourself.

zimmer said:

Democrats: Party first, country second, and with it you get the politicizing of the DoJ, IRS and FBI.

And Democrats wonder if Trump is Hitlerian? ROTFLOL...

Why is it... that everything Democrats touch... they pervert?

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As much as I disliked Trump‘s being elected, the Democrats‘ and liberal media‘s handling of the situation has done so much more damage to the country domestically and much worse internationally than Trump that I am surprised that it is not evident even to nur cases.

HonestJoe said:

Isn’t the point of the article that these weren’t Democrats, they were apolitical individuals who came out against Trump not out of predetermined partisan lines but because they truly felt he would be bad for the country. There are plenty of serious questions about some actions after Trump was elected but that shouldn’t be used to condemn everyone who ever spoke against him during the election.

You’re not in a very strong position to argue against everything being politicised if you’re politicising everything yourself.

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When they entered the political fray, they were political.

The FBI, as has recently been revealed, had political operatives inside, and high up protecting Hillary. Comey, Strzok, McCabe to name three.

The DoJ was perverted, as was the IRS with political hatchemen.

PS. This is a political forum. I didn’t force Democrats to put party ahead of country... they did.

joG said:

As much as I disliked Trump‘s being elected, the Democrats‘ and liberal media‘s handling of the situation has done so much more damage to the country domestically and much worse internationally than Trump that I am surprised that it is not evident even to nur cases.

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Trump hasn’t damaged the US internationally, and has helped domestically.

That socialists dislike of Trump is nothing new. They didn’t like Reagan or Bush 43 either. And our Western-Euro “allies”*, haven’t been right about much during the past 50-years... but they sure enjoyed our defending them for free.

* Eastern Europeans still remember what Communism was like, and know that without the US, they’d still be living under the Soviet thumb. Not to say the USSR would have fallen had Democrats ran the show during the 80’s... they would have propped the sick bear up.

zimmer said:

When they entered the political fray, they were political.

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We all enter politics just by voting. I said they didn’t enter for partisan reasons, just to support whatever candidate is standing for a particular party but because of specific matters of policy and principle within their field of expertise. I’d suggest that in itself is something to be encouraged (though again, some of the stuff after the election certainly shouldn’t).

zimmer said:

PS. This is a political forum. I didn’t force Democrats to put party ahead of country... they did.

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Democrats and Republicans both put party ahead of county by definition. If they didn’t, they’d be calling themselves Americans instead. I'm not talking about party operatives here though, I'm talking about normal American citizens who happen to work in a particular field. If the people the OP article was referring to were partisan, they would have spoken out in previous elections too.

HonestJoe said:

We all enter politics just by voting. I said they didn’t enter for partisan reasons, just to support whatever candidate is standing for a particular party but because of specific matters of policy and principle within their field of expertise. I’d suggest that in itself is something to be encouraged (though again, some of the stuff after the election certainly shouldn’t).

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They behaved in partisan ways.

Hillary actually had operatives high up in the FBI.

She had the head of the DoJ running cover for her and meeting secretly with Felonious Bill. Now we have discovered a DoJ member had a relationship to Fusion GPS.

The IRS chief was a political hatchet woman for Democrats.

Democrats and Republicans both put party ahead of county by definition. If they didn’t, they’d be calling themselves Americans instead. I'm not talking about party operatives here though, I'm talking about normal American citizens who happen to work in a particular field. If the people the OP article was referring to were partisan, they would have spoken out in previous elections too.

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Democrats in government have perverted the FBI, DoJ and IRS... not Republicans.

HowardBThiname said:

The above emboldened is something that not many have really picked up on -- but, it's a "thing."

And, it's a dangerous thing that most are ignoring, or don't even understand at this point. The Democratic party has changed in the past couple of decades, shifted to the far Left and embraced militantism as part of that shift. While decrying fascism, they've developed and celebrated their own fascist tendencies.

They see anyone who disagrees with them as the enemy.

We live in interesting times.

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There's a reason that people don't recognize the threat. For most people under the age of 40 or so, they don't even have a living relative that has known this nation before the rise of Progressivism. To these people the idea of a supreme central government with subordinate states is all they have known or heard of. They can't wrap their heads around the idea that the intention of the founders was that the states once delegated (not ceded) specific powers to the federal government. The very concept of a Republic is foreign to them.

zimmer said:

They behaved in partisan ways.

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By that definition, so are you. Are you suggesting that nobody involved in government should ever express any political opinions at all?

HonestJoe said:

By that definition, so are you. Are you suggesting that nobody involved in government should ever express any political opinions at all?

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I’ve always admitted to being a partisan. An open minded one. Had to be, for I was a Leftist in my youth. You can’t make that kind of change being closed minded. I keep an open mind, but have seen nothing, actually quite the opposite, that would have me support Leftist candidates.

I’m suggesting the Democrats have perverted the DoJ, FBI and IRS. They’ve weaponized these agencies against their enemies. That’s not a point of contention. It’s fact.

It also seems that Clapper and Holder, both who lied under oath... got off free.

Lynch was caught in a secret tarmac meeting. I think we can conclude she was tipping off Clinton about the state of Criminal Hillary’s investigation.

Then there is Lerner and Koskinen at the IRS. Lerner is at this moment, trying to prevent her records from being released.

As the author states, with the mass of leaks and opposition from the intel agencies, it’s no wonder Trump believes the intel agencies are political weapons.

I sense regret in his words.