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Did you know Robert Mueller earned a Purple Heart?

Fenton said:
Lol !!


His lack of faith or your lack of faith in Trumps abilities to be president doesnt give him or ANYONE the right to break the law, violate the civil rights of American citizens, undermine our Constituition, undermine our Democracy and undermine the votes and voices of 10s of millions of American voters.

FFS, you people lost a election and instead of having the grace and dignity afforded to emotionally mature adults, you responded by throwing a massive ****ing temper tantrum and think you reserve the right to remove a duly elected President by any means necessary ?

Why ? Because you didnt get your way. Pathetic
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Man, it's sad how Mueller has you frightened to death, but I really suggest following the evidence. And the means necessary here is a legal investigation.

This is going to be a really, really bad year for some people.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
It doesn't matter who funded the research. The researcher, Christopher Steele is a former British Intelligence officer who often provided information regarding Russia to our intelligence community



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Steele

Moreover, the FBI's investigation wasn't based solely on Christopher Steele's research. Numerous red flags came up as Trump's team had countless conversations with Russian agents.

I don't understand how any American can just ignore even the remote possibility of a president who is compromised by a foreign power. The FBI should absolutely investigate. They should absolutely listen in on conversations between known Russian agents and Americans. How can any rational person suggest otherwise? You are a rational person, right?

Are you suggesting the FBI should have dismissed the Christopher Steele's research and ignored all the red flags?
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CNN : FBI used Dossier to bolster investigation and obtain FISA warrant..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.html

The dossier was a list of unproven anti-Trump allegations that was funded by the Democratic party and used by a Democratic administration to conduct covert surveillance on the political opposition prior to a election

If you think there's nothing wrong with that then I cant help you. Peter Sztrok wasn't removed from running the FBIs counter intelliegence division and demoted to human rescources for texting mean things about Trump

And Bruce Ohr wasnt demoted from his position as acting assistant deputity director AG because he was " wearing two hats "

Both had direct contact with the Dossier and Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS.
 
Fenton said:
Lol !!
His lack of faith or your lack of faith in Trumps abilities to be president doesnt give him or ANYONE the right to break the law, violate the civil rights of American citizens, undermine our Constituition, undermine our Democracy and undermine the votes and voices of 10s of millions of American voters.
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And did this LEO do any of those things?
Or are you extrapolating a teency bit here?
If the guy broke the law, then by all means let's charge him and have a trial.
I am sure you will let us know when he gets charged with a crime.

Fenton said:
FFS, you people lost a election and instead of having the grace and dignity afforded to emotionally mature adults, you responded by throwing a massive ****ing temper tantrum and think you reserve the right to remove a duly elected President by any means necessary ?
Why ? Because you didnt get your way. Pathetic
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"If only the Democrats hadn't been such sore losers, Trump's team would not have confessed to crimes."

FFS, you can jump to unfounded conclusions like a ****ing boss!
Might be why you find your conspiracy theory so inviting.

If Trumpco are clean, then the investigation into Russian meddling in our election won't affect them.

However, some of those ****ers have chosen to confess.
It doesn't seem reasonable to me to place the blame for crooked ****ers doing crooked things on the backs of Americans who call out the crooked ****ers for doing crooked things.
But, as noted before, your mileage varies from mine.




And fwiw, even though I suspect you'll keep on in this vein anyway, I didn't want Clinton to win, nor am I a Democrat.
But feel free to keep lumping me in with the strawmen you've created and labeled Democrats.
It makes things a lot simpler for you and is mildly amusing to me. Just thought I'd give you the respect of telling you the truth about the matter anyway.
 
Fenton said:
Hey, an update !!

Peter Sztroks text messages were released to Congress, and this one is really interesting. ..

" FBI agent's anti-Trump text messages released to Congress - CNNPolitics

" I want to believe the path you threw out in Andy's office ( a reference to FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe ) - that there's no way he can get elected.

But Im affraid we cant take that risk. Its like a insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before your 40 "....

:lamo
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This looks baaaaaad...lol.

My favorites are,

"He's not ever going to become president, right? Right?"

and,

"We can't allow that to happen".

That sounds like they may have been plotting a coup.
 
Fenton said:
CNN : FBI used Dossier to bolster investigation and obtain FISA warrant..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...-donald-trump-russia-investigation/index.html

The dossier was a list of unproven anti-Trump allegations that was funded by the Democratic party and used by a Democratic administration to conduct covert surveillance on the political opposition prior to a election

If you think there's nothing wrong with that then I cant help you. Peter Sztrok wasn't removed from running the FBIs counter intelliegence division and demoted to human rescources for texting mean things about Trump

And Bruce Ohr wasnt demoted from his position as acting assistant deputity director AG because he was " wearing two hats "

Both had direct contact with the Dossier and Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS.
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It sounds like Strzok and Ohr were using their positions in the government to spy on a presidential campaign. Isn't that what Nixon did?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
It's best if prosecutors are biased against the suspect. It means they'll look harder. Bias is not a problem unless they're both biased and corrupt. There's no evidence that they're corrupt.

The worst case is a prosecutor is biased in favor of the suspect. He won't look very hard for evidence of criminal behavior.
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You can't be serious.
 
Mason66 said:
You can't be serious.
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Imagine Al Capone's lawyers found letters from Ness proving Eliot Ness hated Capone and believed he was guilty from the start, would that invalidate Ness' investigation into Capone's criminal activity?

I'm pretty sure Elliot Ness was biased against Al Capone. Again, it's the judge who needs to be unbiased not the investigator or prosecutor. The prosecutor just needs to be honest.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Imagine Al Capone's lawyers found letters from Ness proving Eliot Ness hated Capone and believed he was guilty from the start, would that invalidate Ness' investigation into Capone's criminal activity?

I'm pretty sure Elliot Ness was biased against Al Capone. Again, it's the judge who needs to be unbiased not the investigator or prosecutor. The prosecutor just needs to be honest.
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When a prosecutor has a bias against the defendant, they pull out all the stops which usually includes manufacturing what they need to get a conviction.

I would rather the prosecutor be professional and not let the bias, if there is any, affect their judgement.

It is human nature to let bias affect actions, so if the prosecutor is so biased against the defendant that they can't do their job, they should be removed.

Why do you think Ness was biased against Capone? Ness had a job to do and he did it. Can you prove bias?
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
Robert Mueller: What to Know About the Special Counsel | Time

That's the guy that FOX News is trying to smear to protect a lowlife like Donald J. Trump who dodged the draft. Robert Mueller is just doing his job for his country. It's not his fault if Trump turns out to be lying traitor.
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I have a cousin that has a Purple heart and a life saving medal.

He's a liar, thief, and sitting in a Massachusetts prison for murder for the rest of his life.

Are those thousands who tucked tail and ran to Canada all assholes too?

How many deferments did Clinton get? Oh....yeah, I forgot. The democrats all said that that election wasn't about being prior military.

It's funny how many time liberals have changed skins in the past 30 years.
 
Fenton said:
Wait, so using the dossier to obtain a FISA warrant was ok because the then head of the pre-Mueller investigation, Peter Stzrok independently verified it ? The guy that was removed from his position as acting head of the FBIs counter intelligence division and who is currently the focus of IG investigation vetted the dossier ?

You cant be serious ? Its been over a year since Christopher Steele briefed the FBI on the contents of the dossier and the accusations related to collusion STILL havent been verified.

Peter Sztrok applied for a FISA warrant the same month he met with Christopher Steele to discuss the dossier. The FBI didnt waste anytime using a Democrat funded list of unproven allegations, did they ?

Its worth noting that Judge Contreras didnt initially recuse himself, nor did he give any explanation for his recusal, which means something happened to force his recusal.

Also, Glenn Simpson through court filings admitted yesterday he hired Bruce Ohrs wife specifically to conduct anti-Trump research...

https://www.scribd.com/document/367...ft500noi&source=impactradius&medium=affiliate

Something is happening behind the scences to force ths issue out into the open. My guess is that Nunez has got a hold of some pretty damning evidence.
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Devin Nunes is in and out of the White House and CIA like a cucoo clock. Nunes is the same as Trump, i.e., Nunes too has several thingys going that create chaos.

For Nunes it is to divert the House Intelligence Committee from its Russia investigation. Nunes is focused instead on DoJ, FBI, law firms he does not like or approve of, Susan Rice, NSA and wherever else Nunes can point. Still however Rep. Shiff-D and Rep. Conway-R supervising the committee did manage to get out subpoenas to Flynn and Cohen which kept up the pressure on the Russia contacts by the Trump campaign. Flynn has since pleaded guilty and Cohen has appeared arrogantly to be questioned.

As to your "over a year" it has missed that while the collusion investigation continues the investigation as a whole has advanced to "Conspiracy Against the United States" in the charges and the trial of Manafort and of Sharp coming in spring.

Further, every reference you make to Peter Sztrok ignores completely FBI obtained the FISC warrant based on its own independent investigation of assertions made in the Dossier. You don't know moreover why Judge Contreas recused from the case and neither does anyone else out here know, which leaves you recklessly free to zap on it any motive or cause that suits your bents.

Methinks you may have a wall with names and another timeline wall of events that you work blindfolded to connect in any way you can. The important thing to you is only to connect anything that might string out a sentence. The post above is another instance of it, i.e., a bunch of disjointed bullet statements that don't connect or form a whole. The final statement in the post indicates you have a third wall of catch-all which is where where you can find out if anything might stick.
 
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