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Roy Moore accuser admits she wrote part of yearbook inscription

Do you have the transcripts of this testimony?

Until these accusation are told under oath, it is not testimony, but rather just stories.

How do you know these women told anybody what happened 40 years ago?

We have their testimony as well - WaPo found no less than 30 people for only the original 4 women, and now we are up to 9 (and who knows how many others) who have come forward.

And yes, testimony includes open declarations absent court procedures. That's why, for example, Christians discuss "their Testimony" to the work of Christ in their life.
 
We have their testimony as well - WaPo found no less than 30 people for only the original 4 women, and now we are up to 9 (and who knows how many others) who have come forward.

And yes, testimony includes open declarations absent court procedures. That's why, for example, Christians discuss "their Testimony" to the work of Christ in their life.

A word can mean different things depending on the usage.

I realize testimony is a word used in religious settings, but that doesn't change what it means in a legal setting.
 
Really she wrote the name of the restaurant at the bottom....of the area and the date . She did not write Love Roy Moore. Stay real Conservatives. And by the way Roy would like to babysit your 14 year old grand daughter or daughter. Don't worry all of this is fake news

But...when did she write it and why did she remain silent while it was believed that Roy Moore wrote the whole thing? Could it have been dishonesty on her part?
 
:shrug: it's irrelevant. It's like demanding to know the color of the car Ted Kennedy drove Mary Jo Kopechne into water with, as if that was the issue, v the fact that he left her there to die.

Allred is a publicity hound. But the woman was fairly clear that Moore signed the book, and she added the date/place.

I also find it ironic that you would accuse anyone else of wanting to avoid answering questions when I have asked you to explain how one particular part of the conspiracy functioned twice now - and that was the whole of my quote - and you refuse to do so (likely because you know it breaks credulity and physics).

If this is all a grand conspiracy by the WaPo to find women willing to accuse Moore and pay them off to do so, how did they manage to get the women to travel backwards through time to get their younger selves to tell the exact same story to others years and decades ago?



Not really, because her doing so has no impact on whether or not he signed her yearbook, which, again, is hardly on what this case hangs in the first place.

No less than nine women have now come forward outlining a consistent pattern of behavior by Moore which he partially admits to and then denies, and they are backed by the testimony of dozens of others who say their stories have been consistent for decades. I realize why you want so desperately to ignore all that and shrink it down to a yearbook inscription - it's because the rest of it is so damming for your man, and you are a partisan creature - but the evidence is stacked up pretty high against ole Roy Moore on this, and it's to the shame of anyone who sells their intellectual credibility to defend him.

If she just added this information one month ago then it is clear her motivations are purely political and was willing to convict Moore based on her personally altering information. Neither her nor Alred were honest and up front about Nelson adding to the inscription when they presented this evidence to the media. Even shortly after, when some began to question the inscription, they did not own up to it. Only after ever increasing pressure did they say, "Oh yeah, by the way, I did add that one part". Hell, even her own stepson says she's lying. The thing is, if you lie about one thing then nothing else can be believed, even if it is true.
 
But...when did she write it and why did she remain silent while it was believed that Roy Moore wrote the whole thing? Could it have been dishonesty on her part?



I can plainly see the part the accuser Wilson wrote in a photo of the yearbook notation. It was the date and location, written at the very bottom. Some forgery. You're making a big deal out of nothing. You have nothing.
 
I can plainly see the part the accuser Wilson wrote in a photo of the yearbook notation. It was the date and location, written at the very bottom. Some forgery. You're making a big deal out of nothing. You have nothing.

It's a fake.
 
It's a fake.


You still have nothing and provide no facts to support that the inscription and signature is a fake. You have no evidence to support your claim and thus cannot back up your own word.
 
You still have nothing and provide no facts to support that the inscription and signature is a fake. You have no evidence to support your claim and thus cannot back up your own word.

Fact: she lied about the inscription.
 
If the town has 30,00 now, how many did it have 40 years ago?

If it was much less, it is more likely these women did know each other back then.

Probably a whole lot less. Thus making the idea that they don't know each other even more ludicrous.But even if it was 10 or 20 thousand more its still a tiny town.
 
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Testimony is evidence. In this case, we have the testimony of nine women who establish a consistent pattern of behavior with Moore, and the testimony of dozens of others who confirm they have been telling the same story for decades.



Moore confessed in writing to being attracted to teenage girls in his 30s. When asked about the specific charges, he argued first that:

A) He knew the women, but hadn't dated them
but also argued that:
B) He didn't know these women and had never dated them
and also that
C) He had their mother's permission (which is required only for those below the age of 18).

So yes, Moore has, in his own words, screwed himself.



Gadsden had 50,000 people at the time, and these women have had their lives dug into by highly motivated partisans desperate to find something to discredit them (or even to manufacture something to discredit them); have they found any indication these women were all members of some platform from which they could have launched this conspiracy?



The Wall Street Journal is a conservative rag, and I trust them to do the background research.

Project Veritas already proved for us that they do the background checks, that they validate stories, that they don't take people just telling them anything harmful about Moore. Furthermore, Moore has the ability (and has claimed he will do so... but for some reason hasn't. Gosh, I wonder why.) to sue for defamation. If WaPo didn't have their ducks in a row on this, Moore could end up owning that paper. I trust self-preservation, and I find ad hominem unconvincing.



They had to talk them into coming forward publicly - none of the women wanted to. It was only when they found out there were others that they were willing to do so.




They sent reporters down to chase down rumors and sent the time and the effort and the research finding them.



35K is the current population of the city proper - the area has 100K+. IIRC it is smaller now than it was back in the 70s, when the city proper had something around 50K

Do you know 50,000 people?



Trump supporters, Clinton supporters, even Moore voters? And how (again) do you get the women to travel backwards through time to tell their lies to others?



WaPo didn't "take the bait" because they checked out the girl's story. Because you validate sources if you don't want to screw up, and WaPo didn't want to screw this up.



Oh. Time travel doesn't exist.

Okedoke, how did the WaPo manage to A) convince all these women to come forward and THEN B) manage to get their stories told to dozens of others decades ago?
So they were going around asking people to tell them if Moore sexually assaulted young teenage girls. So whether or not these people knew each other WaPo was telling them what they wanted. So these people didn't have to know each other to tell the same story.
 
So they were going around asking people to tell them if Moore sexually assaulted young teenage girls

They were investigating local rumors (since backed by others) that he'd pursued high school girls as a DA.

So whether or not these people knew each other WaPo was telling them what they wanted.

Not necessarily - the women didn't want to come forward and had to be convinced.

So these people didn't have to know each other to tell the same story.

Ok. So you're going to buy into the idea this is a WaPo instigated conspiracy? We'll all right, then; again - how did they manage to get the women to travel backwards in time to tell others their stories decades ago?
 
They were investigating local rumors (since backed by others) that he'd pursued high school girls as a DA.

When it come to keeping people in or out of power it isn't that hard to find a handful of liars.

Not necessarily - the women didn't want to come forward and had to be convinced.

Allegedly they didn't want to come forward. We don't know if this is true or not.
Ok. So you're going to buy into the idea this is a WaPo instigated conspiracy?

Do you think MSNBC or some other liberal rag is telling the truth all the time? So why would WaPo be any different? Are you telling me that when that Bush went AWOL story came out you were like yep he's guilty?

We'll all right, then; again - how did they manage to get the women to travel backwards in time to tell others their stories decades ago?

They didn't go back in time to get these people to tell them what they wanted to hear. Last I checked these stories came out early November of this year after it was too late for the republicans to change candidates. They didn't dig up old news clippings or microfilm form the public library. They went around asking people for specific dirt.
 
When it come to keeping people in or out of power it isn't that hard to find a handful of liars.

Actually it's extremely difficult to come up with people who can have a story that stands up to scrutiny, and who can keep a group lie together. It takes years of training and experience, and even then, you're not going to make it very far. Nor are we talking about a handful; we are up to 9 women, and ~40ish additional witnesses, from his co-workers to people who knew the girls.

Furthermore, these aren't all people out to achieve partisan gain. Some are Democrats, some Republican. Some are Trump voters, and some have even voted for Moore.

You have no demonstrable motive, and your means relies on nigh-impossibilities. The 9/11 conspiracy people (at least Moore isn't that; apparently he's more of the Jeremiah Wright frame of mind, where America had it coming had more going for them at this point.

Do you think MSNBC or some other liberal rag is telling the truth all the time?

Do you think politicians tell the truth all the time?

They didn't go back in time to get these people to tell them what they wanted to hear. Last I checked these stories came out early November of this year after it was too late for the republicans to change candidates.

Nope. Some of these women told others decadeS ago. Any Vast Both-Wing Conspiracy Theory you want to outline has to account for that.
 
When it come to keeping people in or out of power it isn't that hard to find a handful of liars.

Maybe. But it's hard as crap to find people willing to destroy their own lives just to take out someone from their own team, which is why the fact that the women (9 in all, now) include both Trump and even Moore voters is so damming.

It's also hard as crap to get them to keep together, especially under pressure; no group lie ultimately stands up to inspection, and people break and slip up. Which is why the large number of people (9 women with dozens of other witnesses, from Moore's co-workers to friends of the girls) is so damming.

It's also hard as crap to get a story to stay together for very long, and it's extremely difficult to travel backwards through time, which is why the fact that some of these women told others years and decades ago is so damming.

Allegedly they didn't want to come forward. We don't know if this is true or not.

WaPo had to convince them to do so, and they did only when they found out about each other.

Do you think MSNBC or some other liberal rag is telling the truth all the time? So why would WaPo be any different?

Do you think Politicians tell the truth all the time? Why would one or another be any different?

See how foolish this particular attempt at ad hominem is? WaPo did their homework on this - they knew full well the ****storm it would cause, and they clearly had no intention of making themselves vulnerable to a massive defamation suit...

...which Moore claimed he was going to pursue... but for some reason hasn't. Odd that. Why, given that such would give him a chance to exonerate himself?

They didn't go back in time to get these people to tell them what they wanted to hear. Last I checked these stories came out early November of this year after it was too late for the republicans to change candidates. They didn't dig up old news clippings or microfilm form the public library. They went around asking people for specific dirt.

Nope. Some of these stories came out decades ago, as the women began to tell friends and family what had happened, or who they were involved with. You've got 30+ years of consistency to contend with.
 
Fact: she lied about the inscription.


She did not lie about the inscription. Her saying the inscription was by Moore is accurate. Her adding date and location does not make her claim of the inscription being by Moore a lie.
 
Actually it's extremely difficult to come up with people who can have a story that stands up to scrutiny, and who can keep a group lie together. It takes years of training and experience, and even then, you're not going to make it very far. Nor are we talking about a handful; we are up to 9 women, and ~40ish additional witnesses, from his co-workers to people who knew the girls.

Furthermore, these aren't all people out to achieve partisan gain. Some are Democrats, some Republican. Some are Trump voters, and some have even voted for Moore.

You have no demonstrable motive, and your means relies on nigh-impossibilities. The 9/11 conspiracy people (at least Moore isn't that; apparently he's more of the Jeremiah Wright frame of mind, where America had it coming had more going for them at this point.



Do you think politicians tell the truth all the time?



Nope. Some of these women told others decadeS ago. Any Vast Both-Wing Conspiracy Theory you want to outline has to account for that.
Maybe. But it's hard as crap to find people willing to destroy their own lives just to take out someone from their own team, which is why the fact that the women (9 in all, now) include both Trump and even Moore voters is so damming.

It's also hard as crap to get them to keep together, especially under pressure; no group lie ultimately stands up to inspection, and people break and slip up. Which is why the large number of people (9 women with dozens of other witnesses, from Moore's co-workers to friends of the girls) is so damming.

It's also hard as crap to get a story to stay together for very long, and it's extremely difficult to travel backwards through time, which is why the fact that some of these women told others years and decades ago is so damming.



WaPo had to convince them to do so, and they did only when they found out about each other.



Do you think Politicians tell the truth all the time? Why would one or another be any different?

See how foolish this particular attempt at ad hominem is? WaPo did their homework on this - they knew full well the ****storm it would cause, and they clearly had no intention of making themselves vulnerable to a massive defamation suit...

...which Moore claimed he was going to pursue... but for some reason hasn't. Odd that. Why, given that such would give him a chance to exonerate himself?



Nope. Some of these stories came out decades ago, as the women began to tell friends and family what had happened, or who they were involved with. You've got 30+ years of consistency to contend with.

Again you don't know any of this.You don't know if these women knew each other. If the Washington Post fed told Roy Moore opponents what kind of stories they are looking for.Unless you actually watched these people go down to the polls and marked republican on their ballots then their claims of who they do and don't support are worthless.There are no news clippings, court records, mall records or any other evidence that these women actually told anyone anything back then. So you don't have any proof those stories came out decades ago. BEcause they said so so isn't evidence. No politicians do not tell the truth all the time, but neither does the media. S It isn't that hard to find a bunch of people lie when it comes to putting people in power or keeping them out of power.Washington post is a liberal rag just MSNBC and other liberal media outlets are.I hope you are never on a jury seeing how you are just willing to accept someone's word as truth without any actual evidence. This is a dangerous ground of just accepting accusations as proof and then demanding someone drop out or have their whole career destroyed.
 
It is all a moot point now because Moore lost. His archaic views on other topics should have been enough of a "red flag" to keep folks from voting for him.
That said, Moore essentially admitted to dating or trying to date teenagers in one of his earliest interviews................:)
 
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