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I’m a Multi-Millionaire So Trump's Tax Plan Is Great for Me. It's a Disaster for Everyone Else

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I’m a Multi-Millionaire So Trump's Tax Plan Is Great for Me. It's a Disaster for Everyone Else


By Morris Pearl
TIME
November 28, 2017

On Sunday, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office released its report on the effects of the Senate GOP tax plan, and the results aren’t pretty. According to the CBO, if this bill passes there will be a huge transfer of wealth in our country from the middle class to the rich. Nearly every American making under $75,000 a year will have less money in the long run, while millionaires like me will have more money from all our tax cuts. The plan would also add an astounding $1.4 trillion to the national debt. That’s 1.4 trillion reasons Republicans are going to use in the future to justify cutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. The idea that this tax plan is going to help anyone beside the ultra-rich is ludicrous. Even a brief examination of their bill shows how blatantly untrue their claims are. Yes, some middle-class Americans are going to get a tax cut, but it will be temporary and will leave millions worse off in the long run. If you make less than $75,000 a year, your taxes are going up so mine can go down. What about those huge tax cuts for millionaires and wealthy corporations? Those are permanent. That disparity tells you everything you need to know about the bill.

To make matters worse, the Senate bill’s elimination of the Obamacare individual mandate would absolutely wreck the healthcare market. The CBO estimates that without the mandate an extra 4 million Americans would be without insurance by 2019, a number which rises all the way to 13 million by 2027. Any tax bill will naturally have winners and losers as rates are changed and loopholes are closed, but it’s striking how clearly the lines in this bill have been drawn. If you’re rich, you’re a winner. If you’re not, you’re a loser. That’s not tax reform, it’s a handout to the wealthy. The zealous support for this bill by many Senators baffles me. Some of the bill’s loudest advocates, like Mitch McConnell of Kentucky or Tim Scott of South Carolina, represent states full of people that stand to lose if this passes. They are pushing a bill that will hurt the vast majority of their constituents, all to please a few wealthy donors. That decision isn’t just morally reprehensible, it’s political suicide. The effects of this tax bill are clear — I’ll get a tax cut, and the middle class gets screwed. That’s apparently an acceptable tradeoff for many members of the Senate, but it’s not ok with me, and it shouldn’t be ok with the American people. This bill is an outrage, and it must be stopped.

Morris Pearl currently serves as Chair of the Patriotic Millionaires and was a managing director at BlackRock
 
funny, those poor hillbillies that elected Clown thought they would benefit from a Clown presidency

little did they know it was all about MMGA .................. Make Millionaires Great Again .............
 
funny, those poor hillbillies that elected Clown thought they would benefit from a Clown presidency

little did they know it was all about MMGA .................. Make Millionaires Great Again .............

It's always good to employ someone knowingly without the essential qualities and then mock them and complain and act as though one was not the dummkopf oneself.
 
If Reagan & Jack Kemp were around, they would be blown-away by the audacity of the plan put forth, and the screwing it's giving the middle-class and the deficit.

Even in their wildest imagination, they couldn't imagine such Republican success in restructuring wealth to the already (very) wealthy. And they'd be extremely envious. What they started in 1981, is now being placed on steroids and will increase the damage far more than what they did in the '80's. And what they did in the '80's, was bad as it is and got us here.
 
Shame on all those leftist elites keeping their money.
 
Shame on all those leftist elites keeping their money.

This post is either tongue in cheek or nose in ass, I can't tell which. Either way, the punch line is going to be great misery for the average American.
 
I’m a Multi-Millionaire So Trump's Tax Plan Is Great for Me. It's a Disaster for Everyone Else




Morris Pearl currently serves as Chair of the Patriotic Millionaires and was a managing director at BlackRock

founded by two big time left-wingers. one was the Jerry of Ben and Jerry's. Hard core big government fans who want more government because they think it gives them more power

there is NOTHING STOPPING THOSE CLOWNS From GIVING MORE MONEY TO THE Government and leaving their estates to the feds.
 
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/american-society/economy/patriotic-millionaires-tax-hikes/

He also appears to be a member of Patriotic Millionaires for Fiscal Strength, a progressive activist group that has petitioned Obama and members of Congress for higher taxes. The Patriotic Millionaires have been around since the Bush tax cut fight in 2010, and recently started running ads promoting Obama’s “Buffett Rule.”

In April, Sen. Orrin Hatch informed the group they don’t have to wait for Congress to act in order to pay more in taxes. “They can write a check to the IRS and make an extra payment on their tax return to pay down the federal debt,” he wrote in a letter. “The option is right there at the bottom of their tax return.”

The Patriotic Millionaires rejected the advice.
 
I’m a Multi-Millionaire So Trump's Tax Plan Is Great for Me. It's a Disaster for Everyone Else




Morris Pearl currently serves as Chair of the Patriotic Millionaires and was a managing director at BlackRock
His argument appeals to those that are ignorant of what SS and medicare is, corporate welfare. Both those programs relieve the pressure on them from their employees to provide them with those benefits for vested employees when they retire.

Its also ignorant of how a strong economy benefits everyone to various degrees.

Lastly how much or little taxes the rich pay does not affect me in the least bit.what affects us all is how much of our money congress is spending and on what they are spending it on.

Ever notice when tax cuts are mentioned congress threatens us by declaring if they are not given every oenny they are demanding they will be forced to cut essential services like police and fire. Its their favorite scare tactic

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founded by two big time left-wingers. one was the Jerry of Ben and Jerry's. Hard core big government fans who want more government because they think it gives them more power

there is NOTHING STOPPING THOSE CLOWNS From GIVING MORE MONEY TO THE Government and leaving their estates to the feds.

And yet you didn't rebut a single thing he said. And hey, CAPS don't impress me.
 
And yet you didn't rebut a single thing he said. And hey, CAPS don't impress me.

its a value judgment. Big government fan boys and fluffers want the government to have more power because these rich fat cats think that will increase their power. as I have said for decades, there are at least two kids of rich people. Those who are rich because of the government and those who are rich despite it. guess how the political divide breaks between those two groups?

that they want others to pay more taxes but aren't willing to contribute before congress acts shows that they really are engaged in political theater rather than honesty
 
Imagine if you will that benefit cuts are reduced to zero for the coming year. The program would continue to collect nearly a trillion dollars. Instead of flowing to beneficiaries, every penny of that money would be invested in government securities. In terms of the government’s debt structure, the only difference would be the name of the owner of the bonds.

Morris Pearl currently serves as Chair of the Patriotic Millionaires and was a managing director at BlackRock

You are spreading noise. The tax reform may be a bad idea, but you can cut Social Security to zero and the debt/deficit figures are unchanged. The guy doesn't like the tax plan, maybe with good cause. Instead of arguing the issue on reason, he is counting on you to spread the emotional gush that will stall the effort.
 
While I oppose this tax bill, letting people keep more of their own money is not a transfer of wealth to them. It just means you are taking less of their money away from them.

I pay six figures in taxes a year. I'm not using more public services now than when I was earning $70,000/year or when I was making minimum wage. I am a staunch supporter of progressive taxation but I wish we would be honest with our language.
 
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