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If Moore wins in Alabama does that mean that the women lied?

haymarket said:
You cannot even explain your own convoluted upside down nonsense so that it makes sense.
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Whatever I say is 100 times more logical then your weak argument against the electoral college.
 
independentusa said:
I have heard Huckabee say in other words that Trump won last November which means that the public decided on who was telling the truth. So does that mean that if Moore wins the public decided that the women who have come out are lying, or that Republicans in Alabama will vote for a GOP candidate no matter what he has done?
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If these women refuse to press charges then it is likely they're just attention whore looking for fame and fortune or they being paid to spread lies.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Whatever I say is 100 times more logical then your weak argument against the electoral college.
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There you go again with that knee jerk reflex that you just cannot control. :lamo:mrgreen:
 
Moore did an interview where he talked about how he met his wife who I believe is 16 or so years his junior. Not a big deal. But how he originally met her is.

"When I was deputy district attorney, many years before we got married, I saw her at a dance recital and I was standing, oh, at the back of the auditorium and I saw her up front,"
"I knew Kayla was going to be a special person in my life," Moore wrote about when he first saw her when she was 15 years old. He wrote he began dating her when she was 23, a year before they married, according to the memoir.
"Anxious to meet her, I began with the line, 'Haven't we met somewhere before?' 'I don't think so,' she replied," he said, recalling the moment they met at a church Christmas party.

He was smiling broadly as he recounted the story which is to be expected, I do it when recounting when my wife and I met.
But...Mr. Moore. What were you doing at a dance recital for teenage girls? And did you by chance, pick out anyone else that night?
 
independentusa said:
I have heard Huckabee say in other words that Trump won last November which means that the public decided on who was telling the truth. So does that mean that if Moore wins the public decided that the women who have come out are lying, or that Republicans in Alabama will vote for a GOP candidate no matter what he has done?
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Thing is...every voter has their own reasons for voting for who they choose. Some may think the women are lying...some may vote for Moore no matter what he has done (or not done). I don't think you should attempt to paint the whole State of Alabama with your broad brush.

In any case, recent information makes it look more and more conclusive that at least ONE of those accusers is lying her ass off.
 
MaggieD said:
First, Moore isn’t going to win.
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I think Moore will win. Alabama is a Trump base-state and he indirectly endorsed Moore. Ethics and fidelity have never been Trump strong suits.

Trump throws Roy Moore a lifeline

Trump needs a legislative win and if that win requires electing a Roy Moore to Congress, so be it.

That said, I would much rather be wrong here.
 
independentusa said:
I have heard Huckabee say in other words that Trump won last November which means that the public decided on who was telling the truth. So does that mean that if Moore wins the public decided that the women who have come out are lying, or that Republicans in Alabama will vote for a GOP candidate no matter what he has done?
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The latter. I think most Alabamians believe Moore's accusers and even sympathize with them. Alabamians are just doing what many Trump voters did in 2016 - picking what they feel are the lesser of two evils.
 
independentusa said:
I have heard Huckabee say in other words that Trump won last November which means that the public decided on who was telling the truth. So does that mean that if Moore wins the public decided that the women who have come out are lying, or that Republicans in Alabama will vote for a GOP candidate no matter what he has done?
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No, it means the people of Alabama don’t care enough about the allegations or don’t sufficiently credit them to vote for Jones.
 
Rogue Valley said:
I think Moore will win. Alabama is a Trump base-state and he indirectly endorsed Moore. Ethics and fidelity have never been Trump strong suits.

Trump throws Roy Moore a lifeline

Trump needs a legislative win and if that win requires electing a Roy Moore to Congress, so be it.

That said, I would much rather be wrong here.
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Have no fear. You are. ;) ;)
 
lurchadams said:
The latter. I think most Alabamians believe Moore's accusers and even sympathize with them. Alabamians are just doing what many Trump voters did in 2016 - picking what they feel are the lesser of two evils.
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I didn’t know the opposition was that bad. We should all be pretty sick of crap candidates...
 
If Moore wins it may mean something about the democrat candidate. In the entire time this saga hit the national stage and with all the threads and all the comments about Roy Moore, I have NEVER heard anyone say “listen...forget about what he is alleged to have done. The democrat candidate is CLEARLY the better choice”. Hell...I don’t think I have even once heard people on this site talking about the guy. So maybe if Moore wins it’s because the democrats put up another Hillary.

Of course...it COULD also mean that people in Alabama find the allegations and specifically the timing suspicious. They could have been swayed by what looks like a forged signature offered as evidence. That’s certainly enough to change people’s mind that already want to believe him over them.

It could also mean that many of the voters considered that MAYBE he did date younger women...38 years ago...and that there has been no allegations of impropriety since and so maybe they don’t see the choice to date 16 year olds as that big a deal.


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MaggieD said:
I didn’t know the opposition was that bad. We should all be pretty sick of crap candidates...
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As I said in an earlier post, many Alabamians feel that all Democrats are immoral, gun-banning, baby-killing sodomites.
 
imagep said:
Pretty much, although I'm not sure that Bill had any such allegations at the time of his first presidential election.
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Yes he did. The National Enquiror of all publications broke the Gennifer Flowers story during Clinton's 1992 campaign, and when Clinton denied it along with some less than complimentary comments about Flowers, she went public to state that she had had a 12-year affair with Clinton. After he went on 60 Minutes to again deny the accusations, she came forward with their telephone conversations she had secretly taped. The media and Clinton discredited her by saying the tapes could have been edited. The Democrats didn't care and elected Clinton with 43% of the vote. George H.W. Bush got 38% of the vote in that election. Ross Perot got 19%.

Later in a sworn affidavit during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Clinton admitted he had had the extra marital affair with Flowers.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Tell me, how will they gain 'fame and fortune'?
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They're looking for fame and fortune. No guarantee they'll get it. People will do anything for their 15 minutes.
 
reinoe said:
They're looking for fame and fortune. No guarantee they'll get it. People will do anything for their 15 minutes.
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So, IOW, they're actually not looking for fame and fortune, nor can you demonstrate that they are.

Got it.
 
Nah. It just means voters are tired of being robbed by democrats. Decades old unproven accusations pale before someone forcibly taking money from you in the here and now.

It wont mattter either way. Moore is a democrat at heart gaming the system.
 
akyron said:
Nah. It just means voters are tired of being robbed by democrats. Decades old unproven accusations pale before someone forcibly taking money from you in the here and now.

It wont mattter either way. Moore is a democrat at heart gaming the system.
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This makes zero sense. You guys are really getting desperate.
 
Kobie said:
This makes zero sense. You guys are really getting desperate.
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You did know that Moore was actually a democrat that changed to republican right?

History is your friend. Pay attention to it.
 
haymarket said:
There you go again with that knee jerk reflex that you just cannot control. :lamo:mrgreen:
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There you go again with that knee jerk reflex that you just cannot control. :funny:lamo
 
Manc Skipper said:
By more than half a dozen independent sources. Even a retired cop who remembers being detailed to keep Moore away from the cheerleaders at college football games!
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Prove it.
 
Cameron said:
No, it means the people of Alabama don’t care enough about the allegations or don’t sufficiently credit them to vote for Jones.
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Most Alabama voters will choose Moore or skip the vote. Jones is a space cadet.
 
lurchadams said:
As I said in an earlier post, many Alabamians feel that all Democrats are immoral, gun-banning, baby-killing sodomites.
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Are they wrong?
 
independentusa said:
I have heard Huckabee say in other words that Trump won last November which means that the public decided on who was telling the truth. So does that mean that if Moore wins the public decided that the women who have come out are lying, or that Republicans in Alabama will vote for a GOP candidate no matter what he has done?
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why does it have to be one or the other?

could it be that they believe the women but dont consdier what he did very serious? no sex...and no rape...

could it be that they believe it is serious but believe the party will replace him after the election?

your few choices leave them no choice....but that is not how the real world works

and electing a democrat in ALabama is not a very palatable choice either
 
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