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Another Conservative Values Politician and Trump Supporter Bites the Dust

10 years?!?


How about ****ing life! Dude should go away for the rest of his natural ****ing life.
 
Hari Seldon said:
Holy cow batman. 10 years in prison at a minimum.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-coordinator-apos-family-222545006.html
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This really is exactly why politics and civil discourse in America is in the toilet.

This man is not the poster boy for either Trump or Conservative values, but the article, and you by extension, attempt to smear all by equating this man's actions with them.

Harvey Weinstein spent and collected $millions to support Democrats at every level of government, and yet I would never attempt to equate his actions with those of President Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton, etc. Why is it necessary to elevate every reprobate in society with one ideology or another?

And just as an aside, why not also smear all who enjoy gay sex while you're at it since the main charge and the one he's pleaded guilty to is soliciting prostitution from a 17 yr old male?
 
CanadaJohn said:
This really is exactly why politics and civil discourse in America is in the toilet.

This man is not the poster boy for either Trump or Conservative values, but the article, and you by extension, attempt to smear all by equating this man's actions with them.

Harvey Weinstein spent and collected $millions to support Democrats at every level of government, and yet I would never attempt to equate his actions with those of President Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton, etc. Why is it necessary to elevate every reprobate in society with one ideology or another?

And just as an aside, why not also smear all who enjoy gay sex while you're at it since the main charge and the one he's pleaded guilty to is soliciting prostitution from a 17 yr old male?
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He sure as hell is a poster boy for those fine upstanding conservative family values. He also went after 14 year olds, wanted naughty pictures I believe. If this was an isolated incident you may have a point. But its not. He only pleaded guilty to avoid the child pornography charges. He's screwed no matter what. With a wife and 4 kids. Truly unreal.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
It's just the tip of the iceberg. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Trump actually was sleeping with Ivanka and that Rand Paul was screwing his neighbor's daughter. Transparency! Congress's time in the sun is here.
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Just because someone who worked for Trump did some illegal things doesn't mean that Trump did. We have to go by what Trump said and did, and what can be proven.
 
KevinKohler said:
10 years?!?


How about ****ing life! Dude should go away for the rest of his natural ****ing life.
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That's the mandated minimum I believe. Should get a lot more but who knows.
 
KevinKohler said:
10 years?!?


How about ****ing life! Dude should go away for the rest of his natural ****ing life.
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But see, he doesn't have a natural ****ing life - that's the whole point. :lol:
 
RAMOSS said:
Just because someone who worked for Trump did some illegal things doesn't mean that Trump did. We have to go by what Trump said and did, and what can be proven.
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trump is a total ass hole...I'm going by that
 
CanadaJohn said:
This really is exactly why politics and civil discourse in America is in the toilet.

This man is not the poster boy for either Trump or Conservative values, but the article, and you by extension, attempt to smear all by equating this man's actions with them.

Harvey Weinstein spent and collected $millions to support Democrats at every level of government, and yet I would never attempt to equate his actions with those of President Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton, etc. Why is it necessary to elevate every reprobate in society with one ideology or another?

And just as an aside, why not also smear all who enjoy gay sex while you're at it since the main charge and the one he's pleaded guilty to is soliciting prostitution from a 17 yr old male?
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Obviously he's not a poster boy now but what about when he was posing as a champion of "family values", and attacking LGBT people?
The two-term former Oklahoma Republican state senator was first elected in 2010 on a “family values” conservative platform. According to the Associated Press, Shortey “routinely voted with his Republican colleagues on bills targeting gay and transgender people, including a measure passed earlier this year that would allow business owners to discriminate against gay people.
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It's a case of live by the sword, die by the sword.
 
KevinKohler said:
10 years?!?


How about ****ing life! Dude should go away for the rest of his natural ****ing life.
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From what I understand he just had sex with a male prostitute who happened to be 17. Note that the age of consent in Oklahoma is 16 so that if they just had sex without the money it would have been legal. And you think he should get life in prison?
 
CanadaJohn said:
This really is exactly why politics and civil discourse in America is in the toilet.

This man is not the poster boy for either Trump or Conservative values, but the article, and you by extension, attempt to smear all by equating this man's actions with them.

Harvey Weinstein spent and collected $millions to support Democrats at every level of government, and yet I would never attempt to equate his actions with those of President Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton, etc. Why is it necessary to elevate every reprobate in society with one ideology or another?

And just as an aside, why not also smear all who enjoy gay sex while you're at it since the main charge and the one he's pleaded guilty to is soliciting prostitution from a 17 yr old male?
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It is at the very least a point well worth being made. Conservatives that espouse "Family Values" and then attempt to legislate morality often are leading amoral lives themselves. And when they get caught and exposed, it's certainly entertaining at the very least. Shades of Jerry Falwell and company.
 
RAMOSS said:
Just because someone who worked for Trump did some illegal things doesn't mean that Trump did. We have to go by what Trump said and did, and what can be proven.
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Trump said he likes to grab them by the p*ssy and that he would like to date ivanka if she wasn't his daughter. All I am saying is that folks at the highest levels are into some sick and demented sh*t. So it wouldn't surprise me at all. It's about time all of this gets exposed.
 
Saladin4 said:
trump is a total ass hole...I'm going by that
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Now. not all total asses will reach that level of disgusting behavior. Now, you might have a point if made comments like 'I would date her if she wasn't my daughter' or something, particularly if she was under 18 at the time.
 
Top Cat said:
It is at the very least a point well worth being made. Conservatives that espouse "Family Values" and then attempt to legislate morality often are leading amoral lives themselves. And when they get caught and exposed, it's certainly entertaining at the very least. Shades of Jerry Falwell and company.
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We're seeing a lot Liberals, who claim to be champions of women's right getting exposed as sexual preditors. Hell, Bill Clinton was exposed 20 years ago and the Libbos are still defending him.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Trump said he likes to grab them by the p*ssy and that he would like to date ivanka if she wasn't his daughter. All I am saying is that folks at the highest levels are into some sick and demented sh*t. So it wouldn't surprise me at all. It's about time all of this gets exposed.
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Y'all don't care what lies y'all tell. No shame! :lamo
 
CanadaJohn said:
This really is exactly why politics and civil discourse in America is in the toilet.

This man is not the poster boy for either Trump or Conservative values, but the article, and you by extension, attempt to smear all by equating this man's actions with them.

Harvey Weinstein spent and collected $millions to support Democrats at every level of government, and yet I would never attempt to equate his actions with those of President Obama or Hillary and Bill Clinton, etc. Why is it necessary to elevate every reprobate in society with one ideology or another?

And just as an aside, why not also smear all who enjoy gay sex while you're at it since the main charge and the one he's pleaded guilty to is soliciting prostitution from a 17 yr old male?
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The American left has spent decades promoting and championing all manner of abhorrent sexual conduct. And then they act shocked when their fellow leftist, like Harv, Franken, and scores of other leftists get caught doing exactly what they have been cheering on.

It's hilarious actually. :)
 
DamnYankee said:
The American left has spent decades promoting and championing all manner of abhorrent sexual conduct. And then they act shocked when their fellow leftist, like Harv, Franken, and scores of other leftists get caught doing exactly what they have been cheering on.

It's hilarious actually. :)
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The left has sure changed their minds on sexual freedom, lead by the feminists who demand that it be regulated to the max.

They really should reconsider.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Trump said he likes to grab them by the p*ssy and that he would like to date ivanka if she wasn't his daughter. All I am saying is that folks at the highest levels are into some sick and demented sh*t. So it wouldn't surprise me at all. It's about time all of this gets exposed.
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You're repeating that (incorrectly btw) as if he meant it the way YOU took it, is just wrong. It's crap like that, that make Trump haters look and sound so hysteria driven. There's enough true and accurate **** out there, why resort to stupid stuff like this?
 
Top Cat said:
It is at the very least a point well worth being made. Conservatives that espouse "Family Values" and then attempt to legislate morality often are leading amoral lives themselves. And when they get caught and exposed, it's certainly entertaining at the very least. Shades of Jerry Falwell and company.
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It's worth noting that the individual himself is a hypocrite and immoral, but that does not extend to smearing all he hypocritically supported. A timely equivalent - Charles Manson liked the Beatles, doesn't mean the Beatles liked or supported Charles Manson's actions.

Conservatives who support family values also recognize that humans aren't infallible and many fail to live by the ideals, but that doesn't mean there's something wrong with the ideals. If a gay man sexually assaults a child, we all know that gay man's actions do not equate with all gay men being pedophiles. So why is it acceptable, from your point of view, to ridicule and degrade all "Conservatives who espouse family values" simply because of this one man's actions?
 
apdst said:
We're seeing a lot Liberals, who claim to be champions of women's right getting exposed as sexual preditors. Hell, Bill Clinton was exposed 20 years ago and the Libbos are still defending him.
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And yet here you are defending Moore?
 
holbritter said:
You're repeating that (incorrectly btw) as if he meant it the way YOU took it, is just wrong. It's crap like that, that make Trump haters look and sound so hysteria driven. There's enough true and accurate **** out there, why resort to stupid stuff like this?
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It's creepy af, there's no defending that. That's not something to joke about, and it wouldn't surprise me at this point. From what I've seen from some of the men who have rose to power (Trump included). It wouldn't surprise me at all. That's all I'm saying.
 
Crovax said:
From what I understand he just had sex with a male prostitute who happened to be 17. Note that the age of consent in Oklahoma is 16 so that if they just had sex without the money it would have been legal. And you think he should get life in prison?
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Then why is he being brought up on charges of child sex trafficking?
 
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